I downloaded this form in PDF format from the South African Police website. It seems to be a fairly straightforward form to fill out, if a bit longer than necessary. I wonder if things have changed and it would be to my benefit to have a copy filled out before getting to Joberg. If so, I do have some questions:
1. On page 2, they ask for details about the "natural person." As I am not artificial, can I assume this is me?
2. Farther down on the same page, they ask for details about a "juristic person." Who or what the heck would that be?
3. Then, on page 3, they ask for "responsible person details." Again, who might this one be?
4. On page 4, they ask for "transporter's details." Who might "transporter" be?

Thanks in advance for any and all help. I am not a stupid person (some might tend to disagree), but this form takes bureaucratese to lengths heretofor unimaginable.

From PHASA's website:


Instructions for Filling in SAP 520 Form

1. Black ink must be used to fill in the form.

2. The form should be left unsigned until the document is finalized in front of the police official issuing the actual permit. This gives the police official the opportunity of making sure the signature is an original and is yours. Should you sign the form beforehand, please make sure the form with your original signature is handed in and not a copy.

3. Please note that not all sections of the form apply. Visitors bringing their own firearms in for hunting purposes should concentrate on filling in the following:
Section D – (temporary import or export permit)
Section E – 1 – 25.4
Section G
Section I – (Must fill in all details requested)
Section J - (remember do not sign until in front of police officer at firearm office)


Regards,

Terry

patrkyhntr,

Funnily enough I have been scratching my head over those terms myself...

I even refered to the offical notes on the SAP site but they don't explain them either...

Regards,

Pete

Thanks, Terry and Pete. I thought I might be getting a bit of oldtimer's disease. I still don't know who all these persons are, but I will try to do my best to complete the form.

I have one more question, from the PHASA website. It says I have to have a "proof of export" documentation. What the heck is this? Is it the customs form 4453 or whatever?

patrkyhntr,

Unless someone can explain those terms, I think I will fill as much of the form I can in advance and then do the rest at the airport.

With regards the "proof of export" documentation, I have been told different things by different people. A couple of guys who went over before Christmas did not have them, and the SAPS did not make any fuss...However, there is just a chance that you get a guy having a bad day or who has a chip on his shoulder.

Because of that I am applying for a Temporary Export License from our Department of Trade and Industry...

They are actually very helpful but they keep telling me I don't actually need such a license, which correct as far as British law goes...

I am not sure how easy it would be to get such a license over in the States and I also bet an appropriately worded letter on Official looking note paper would probably work just as well!

Regards,

Pete

Gentlemen,

I strongly suggest everyone going to South Africa pays one of the "meet-and-greet" agents to clear them through customs.

It only costs a few dollars, anmd I think it might be very well spent.

patrkyhntr,

I have emailed PHASA the question and see what they say.

Saeed,

With regards the meet and greet service, although they seem highly recommend here, the SAPS website asks you quite clearly not to use such services saying that it causes problems???

Regards,

Pete

PeteE

The only reason SAPS says it causes problems is because the agents are efficient and tends to show up the failing within the SAPS logistics system !!!

Peter

I always find it humorous that a person going on a safari of a lifetime, which costs more money than any of those Africans will ever see, refuses to pay $50-75 to make the process go smoothly!

Personally, I wouldn't waste my time filling out that stupid form in advance. I did that last time and the saps at SAPS wouldn't accept it. I had to start over with the same stupid form at the airport.