25 August 2005, 06:58
LightningNorthern Mozambique
Has anyone hunted in far north Moz. The area I am looking at hunting border the Niassa Reserve to the south and also border the same reserve to the east. I am looking at hunting lion and buff in these regions and didn't know if anyone had any prior experience. Thanks in advance.
25 August 2005, 12:18
ozhunterThis is a top concession. Go
Good Hunting, Adam C.
25 August 2005, 17:30
butchlocI've not been there yet, but am going next sept with my friend jumbo moore, who has a large concession there. From what I've seen in pictures from him and in talking to him, it really is a beautiful area. He has been seeing lions and leopards every day in the daylight. huge ele. but you can't bring them back here (damn)If you want lion he is booked up for next year already, there are only 3 on quota. Very reasonable lion prices, but there are some govt. fees that raise the pricetag a bit. If you want lion I think you should be looking at 2007 already.
25 August 2005, 21:35
AtkinsonJohann Calitz recently purchased a concession in that area, therefore I must assume there is some great areas there, he knows his business about as well as anyone...I suspect there are some awesome elephant in that area and hope that soon Mozambique will allow Ivory exports to the USA....As for Lions, I couldn't say.
26 August 2005, 00:22
MHC_TXWhy doesn't Mozambique allow ivory export to the US?
26 August 2005, 00:26
Charles_Helmquote:
Originally posted by MHC_TX:
Why doesn't Mozambique allow ivory export to the US?
I think the the problem is the opposite. Mozambique will issue an export permit but the US will not issue an import permit at this time.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
26 August 2005, 00:27
500grainsThe reason the U.S. does not allow ivory importation of ivory from Moz because the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service is not convinced that Moz has a sustainable plan for elephant management. But how would USFWS know?
26 August 2005, 00:45
T.CarrI meat a really nice guy at Afton Guest House who was headed to a concession near the Niassa Reserve. It was his third safari to that area (his 15th safari overall). He was looking for big elephant, having taken elephant there on both previous safaris. His tusks from the two previous safaris are stored with his outfitter until the US starts allowing the import of Mozambique ivory.
Regards,
Terry
26 August 2005, 01:26
Wendell Reichquote:
Originally posted by 500grains:
The reason the U.S. does not allow ivory importation of ivory from Moz because the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service is not convinced that Moz has a sustainable plan for elephant management. But how would USFWS know?
Mozambique does not have their "paperwork in order". According to the USF&W (I think)
John Jackson III is looking to sue USF&W over this. I spoke with him about the issue a couple years ago. He has offered to one of my clients (or anyone for that matter) if they did an Elephant hunt in Moz and he would take on the USF&W for free. A test case. I think he only asked for a $500 donation to his
Conservation Force. A pretty small drop in the bucket compared with the potential legal fees involved in something like this.
He told me "We will get tusks from Mozambique imported, I just don't know when."
This was from a conversation I had two years ago, so I do not know if I am 100% correct.
26 August 2005, 04:19
MHC_TXABC World news just ran a story on Kruger Park in South Africa (actually showed old footage of a helicopter doing some culling work). Kruger has too many elephants, they need to start culling them again. Apparently, they quit the culling operations, due to international pressure. What I found interesting is Kruger appeared right on the border of Mozambique.
26 August 2005, 04:53
gunnyThe problem with elephants is where you have them there are to many, but there are to many people to have them elsewhere.