Again, Shooting from the Truck!

22 August 2014, 15:27

fujotupu

quote:
Originally posted by bwana cecil:
fujo
I think you're onto something.
Can it be store bought on does it have to be homemade? Home made.
Can I use steel ball bearings or does it have to be rocks? Will take a single 3" steel ball but would be considered unethical by some.
What pull weight should be set for a minimum?
The sling shot in discussion is of the medieval type which requires the use of one arm to acquire the desired momentum for launching the projectile. Though outdated in the Western world, is still used regularly in the Middle East

22 August 2014, 18:14

MJines

quote:
Originally posted by bwana cecil:
Can I use steel ball bearings or does it have to be rocks?

So long as the ball bearing or rock is a flat nose, you should be fine.

27 August 2014, 08:45

lavaca

Steve A.

As I recall from "Horn of the Hunter" Ruark talked about not being able to shoot near the vehicle and described bailing out to shoot a lion so the gari could get away to the prescibed distance.

Not my cup of tea, but not advocating shooting out of the car either.

Saeed, I actually like Ruark. His best was "Something of Value". ("Uhuru" is good, but has a lot of chapters that should have been chopped).

"Horn of the Hunter" is good too. The best line in the whole book is Virginia is sitting by the fire reading a book, late at night, when Selby and Ruark drag back into camp. Filthy, scraped up, bloody -- basically a mess. Virginia looks up from her book and says: "Bufalo again. Idiots."

For those of us who hunt buffalo, I think that is classic.

27 August 2014, 16:04

wombat

I have shot both on foot and the truck.
Pig shooting in Australia from the truck with a spot light as part of a vermin culling execise with an esky of cold beer on the back seat is hoot.
I would never consideresd such a thing during the hunts for the 5 elephants I have taken, it all depends on the circumstances.

27 August 2014, 19:06

DCS Member

quote:
Originally posted by wombat:
I have shot both on foot and the truck.
Pig shooting in Australia from the truck with a spot light as part of a vermin culling execise with an esky of cold beer on the back seat is hoot.
I would never consideresd such a thing during the hunts for the 5 elephants I have taken, it all depends on the circumstances.

Thanks for saying this. I've said it before in other threads. The pigs here in Texas are a big problem. They're hunted from helos even. I lost count of those I've taken. Although, I've never done the helo hunt (the little choppers scare me unless I'm flying and I don't know how).

However, I do enjoy a cold beer on these hunts in the Texas summer.

27 August 2014, 19:36

JTEX

quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
quote:
Originally posted by bwana cecil:
Can I use steel ball bearings or does it have to be rocks?

So long as the ball bearing or rock is a flat nose, you should be fine.

But if it be a ball bearing should it be traditioanal or monometal??????

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27 August 2014, 19:37

JTEX

quote:
Originally posted by lavaca:
Steve A.

As I recall from "Horn of the Hunter" Ruark talked about not being able to shoot near the vehicle and described bailing out to shoot a lion so the gari could get away to the prescibed distance.

Not my cup of tea, but not advocating shooting out of the car either.

Saeed, I actually like Ruark. His best was "Something of Value". ("Uhuru" is good, but has a lot of chapters that should have been chopped).

"Horn of the Hunter" is good too. The best line in the whole book is Virginia is sitting by the fire reading a book, late at night, when Selby and Ruark drag back into camp. Filthy, scraped up, bloody -- basically a mess. Virginia looks up from her book and says: "Bufalo again. Idiots."

For those of us who hunt buffalo, I think that is classic.

I think Ruark is my all time favorite also! Horn of the Hunter for sure!

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27 August 2014, 19:40

MJines

quote:
Originally posted by JTEX:
quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
quote:
Originally posted by bwana cecil:
Can I use steel ball bearings or does it have to be rocks?

So long as the ball bearing or rock is a flat nose, you should be fine.

But if it be a ball bearing should it be traditioanal or monometal??????

.

Quit trying to stir up trouble . . . monometal of course. Everyone knows that lead core slingshot fodder is a relic from the past.

27 August 2014, 20:20

fujotupu

quote:
Everyone knows that lead core slingshot fodder is a relic from the past.

But to prove their worth they need to stick to rocks ..... if they want to emulate their cave-dwelling ancestors.

27 August 2014, 23:13

bwana cecil

If I'm going to have to walk barefoot & naked from my home to the coast, then swim to Africa, can't I at least have a store bought sling shot?
I'll agree to rocks only as my ammo.

27 August 2014, 23:31

jstevens

quote:
Originally posted by R.Jolly:
There are "hunters" and there are "shooters" !!!

And of course there are quite a number who are neither one! Honestly, when you are talking about fair chase, what difference does it make if you use the truck for a rest or hop out ten feet away? In our area, it is considered bad form to shoot from the truck, but most of the same people hunt from an ATV and think nothing of it. My big issue is with people shooting from the roadway at game on whose property they don't have permission to hunt at all. I also tend to think that most peoples' hunting ethics are a lot stronger on this board than they are in the field. How many would pass up a shot at a B&C whitetail or mulie from the truck? How many would shoot across their neighbor's fence and drag a 180 pt whitetail under it? Not many. My views follow along with Saeed's, if it's legal, safe, common sense says to do what you want. If you don't like it, don't do it, and don't castigate your neighbor for it.

27 August 2014, 23:44

MJines

quote:
Originally posted by jstevens:
I also tend to think that most peoples' hunting ethics are a lot stronger on this board than they are in the field.

+1, spot on.

28 August 2014, 00:03

Crazyhorseconsulting

quote:
I also tend to think that most peoples' hunting ethics are a lot stronger on this board than they are in the field.

From my limited experience, Hunting Ethics, fall into at minimum 3 categories.

1. Actual ethical hunting practices.

2. Situational ethics.

3. Internet/Campfire Tale ethics.

Also from experience the majority of hunters operate under Number 2 when in the field, and under Number 3 when describing their hunt to those that were not present.

Number 1 varies so much from one individual to the next that getting a consensus among any given group of hunters on what ethical hunting actually is or is not, is the reason we have discussions such as this one.

Just my opinion.

28 August 2014, 00:05

jstevens

I can say one thing. If shooting coyotes from a truck is unethical, then I am hundreds of times proven unethical!

28 August 2014, 04:37

bwana cecil

quote:
I can say one thing. If shooting coyotes from a truck is unethical, then I am hundreds of times proven unethical!

I can only think of 2 places that I will not shoot at a coyote, a public road or a cemetery.
They along with pigs are not what IMHO are considered game animals. Coyotes are varmints & pigs are eco terrorist.
Shoot at will.

28 August 2014, 07:01

Crazyhorseconsulting

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I can only think of 2 places that I will not shoot at a coyote, a public road or a cemetery.

Ain't shot one from or in a cemetery, simply because aitn't never had the chance.

Public roads, Oh Yeah, if they ain't anyone in sight, I might not kill it but I will give it a damn good reason to run.

This part of Texas, if a coyote does not learn to run at the sight of a vehicle, it don't live long.

28 August 2014, 08:36

Blair 338RUM

quote:
Originally posted by jstevens:
I can say one thing. If shooting coyotes from a truck is unethical, then I am hundreds of times proven unethical!

Like our feral pig, fox and roo shooting.

28 August 2014, 13:20

375 fanatic

quote:
Originally posted by Oryxhunter1983:
Well why stop at shooting off the truck, I think any hunting done with the aid of a truck is disgusting! What chance does the animal have? And let's not forget scopes...or modern weaponry, hell, let's ban "driven over cliff hunting" as well. I won't be happy till people start swimming to Africa and hunt game the old fashion way, jedi mind tricks!

There's no difference shooting off sticks 20 ft from the truck, or leaning on the truck, or next to the ladder on the truck...it's all shooting, with incredible technology, and the animal certainly is disadvantaged in every situation.

Funny, I've spent quite a bit of time with different people, some I knew, some I didnt, on safari but every single one of them in the "I don't ever shoot off the truck, no matter what camp," damn near broke their hand trying to load their gun when a 60" kudu jumped in the road!

the question is if the opportunity is there do you take it or not ?

secondly I did a hunt with a client that wanted to walk and stalk on the second day the bakkies gearbox went but its not a problem as the client wanted to walk and stalk so we walked out of camp and hunted until lunch during lunch he started complaining because there was no vehicle.
my question is what is the difference between using a vehicle to search for game and getting off to stalk and shoot and shooting it from the truck is it not just to ease your conscience

if the whole hunt is done just on foot half the trophies will be taken. to hunt a 58" kudu on foot in his habitat or mountains can take you upto 2 weeks

the difference for me is like touching the line and stepping on the line the result stays the same