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19 March 2012, 00:26
fairgameEssentials
What really do you need on safari? Your laundry is done on a daily basis and your PH comes with a sharp knife, first aid, GPS and a ball of string.
Just packing up to send a week or so in the bush and everything I have packs into a rucksack.
Pair of shorts, long trousers, two shirts and a jacket. Couple pair of socks and my boots. A knife, whiskey and some rounds of .404, a LED lenser, camera and batteries. Sat phone and a framed photo of my wife
Still got some space.
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19 March 2012, 00:41
bwanamrmNever leave home without duct tape!
On the plains of hesitation lie the bleached bones of ten thousand, who on the dawn of victory lay down their weary heads resting, and there resting, died.
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch...
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And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!
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Life grows grim without senseless indulgence.
19 March 2012, 00:46
ravenra way to start a fire
19 March 2012, 00:53
infinitoDuck tape, Cable ties and a 416 instead of a 404!
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19 March 2012, 00:58
N E 450 No2I take two double rifles, and leave the picture of the wife at home...
However one time I did take the wife, the whole wife not just the picture.
NEVER AGAIN, she shot more stuff than I did.
I should have known that ahead of time.
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19 March 2012, 01:36
Mike_Dettorre
MikeLegistine actu quod scripsi?
Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.
What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
19 March 2012, 02:04
safari-lawyerI went in Oct/Nov with just a carry on.
Two sets of hunting clothes
Boots and gaiters
Binos
Hat
Toiletries
Will J. Parks, III
19 March 2012, 02:23
Scriptusquote:
Originally posted by fairgame:
What really do you need on safari? Your laundry is done on a daily basis and your PH comes with a sharp knife, first aid, GPS and a ball of string.
Just packing up to send a week or so in the bush and everything I have packs into a rucksack.
Pair of shorts, long trousers, two shirts and a jacket. Couple pair of socks and my boots. A knife, whiskey and some rounds of .404, a LED lenser, camera and batteries. Sat phone and a framed photo of my wife
Still got some space.
You scared of that VC double? Jes askin.
19 March 2012, 02:29
LionHunterNo matter how many times I go, I always take stuff not used.
I always take gifts for all staff (beyond cash tips) and I know they are appreciated - at different times, wrist watches, folding knives, flashlites and in the old days of 70# weight allowance, clothing.
The older I get, medicine takes up more room in the carry-on.
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19 March 2012, 03:02
465H&HI would add gun cleaning equipment.
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19 March 2012, 03:57
Aspen Hill Adventuresquote:
Originally posted by fairgame:
What really do you need on safari? Your laundry is done on a daily basis and your PH comes with a sharp knife, first aid, GPS and a ball of string.
Just packing up to send a week or so in the bush and everything I have packs into a rucksack.
Pair of shorts, long trousers, two shirts and a jacket. Couple pair of socks and my boots. A knife, whiskey and some rounds of .404, a LED lenser, camera and batteries. Sat phone and a framed photo of my wife
Still got some space.
What are you using for TP?
~Ann
19 March 2012, 04:04
NakihunterI have not been to Africa - buy my "bum bag" always has a whistle, a candle stub with lighter, a compas & emergency foil bag apart from my knives - small and large.
A days news paper and clean underware are a must in the pack! News paper is so useful for drying out boots and clothes during rainy weather.
"When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick."
19 March 2012, 04:04
N E 450 No2Ann
They have always has plenty of TP...
But I always take plenty of wet wipes...
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19 March 2012, 04:08
Heym 450/400quote:
Originally posted by safari-lawyer:
I went in Oct/Nov with just a carry on.
Two sets of hunting clothes
Boots and gaiters
Binos
Hat
Toiletries
I'm intrigued by taking just a carryon as well, but what about shampoo? Surely you take more than 3ozs.
19 March 2012, 04:11
bwanamrmquote:
I'm intrigued by taking just a carryon as well, but what about shampoo? Surely you take more than 3ozs.
Could do it, but I always carry my own ammo and that requires checking...
On the plains of hesitation lie the bleached bones of ten thousand, who on the dawn of victory lay down their weary heads resting, and there resting, died.
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch...
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!
- Rudyard Kipling
Life grows grim without senseless indulgence.
19 March 2012, 04:12
N E 450 No2quote:
Originally posted by Nakihunter:
I have not been to Africa - buy my "bum bag" always has a whistle, a candle stub with lighter, a compas & emergency foil bag apart from my knives - small and large.
A days news paper and clean underware are a must in the pack! News paper is so useful for drying out boots and clothes during rainy weather.
Yes, I always carry a wrist compass. I even wear it on my deer lease, I have been hun nting there for 15 years...
News paper is the best thing for drying your boots.
However when on traveling trip I carry 2 of the German synthentic towels, the ones you see on TV. I put them in my boots at night, and lay them out in the sun durring the day.
Also here is a little tip. If you are hunting all day, and glassing in the mountains, durring dryn weather, if you can take off your boots for an hour or two, kit allows them and your socks to dry out. When you put them back on, it is like having fresh socks.
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19 March 2012, 04:16
N E 450 No2Heym 450/400
Just carry 2 or 3 small bottles of shampoo, in your carry on.
The rule is no single bottle can be above a certain size. You can fill up that zip lock bag with as many small bottles as it will hold...
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19 March 2012, 04:22
Mike_Dettorreshampoo? jeez...just rub the soap on your head...unless you are a girl
MikeLegistine actu quod scripsi?
Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
19 March 2012, 04:30
Heym 450/400Yes Mike I suppose and I'll shave with my hunting knife as well.
19 March 2012, 05:02
safari-lawyerquote:
Originally posted by Heym 450/400:
quote:
Originally posted by safari-lawyer:
I went in Oct/Nov with just a carry on.
Two sets of hunting clothes
Boots and gaiters
Binos
Hat
Toiletries
I'm intrigued by taking just a carryon as well, but what about shampoo? Surely you take more than 3ozs.
There are shampoo, conditioner, and soap "sheets " that dissolve and lather when water is added. Gets you past the 3oz liquid issue.
In fact, that was one of my hurdles to overcome in packing for the last trip.
Also, I've so little hair left that 3oz could last me for two weeks!
Will J. Parks, III
19 March 2012, 05:19
bwana cecilI take a box of single pk. Wet Ones antibacterial.
Can clean your hands after you clean your arse, just don't use the same one.
Also take M&M's to give to the staff.
LORD, let my bullets go where my crosshairs show.
Not all who wander are lost.
NEVER TRUST A FART!!!
Cecil Leonard
19 March 2012, 05:24
Mike_DettorreHeym 450/400,
Shaving with a hunting knife is nearly impossible. Using body soap as a substitute for shampoo for 10 days is perfectly workable for 95% of the people on the planet.
MikeLegistine actu quod scripsi?
Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
Seriously? The flavour of Fairgame's original post suggested a minimalist approach to safari. Now we're arguing about shampoo and carrying around newspapers. Something has gone awry here.
19 March 2012, 05:56
TrophyShotPrintsquote:
Originally posted by jwm:
Seriously? The flavour of Fairgame's original post suggested a minimalist approach to safari. Now we're arguing about shampoo and carrying around newspapers. Something has gone awry here.
.
19 March 2012, 06:02
bwana ceciljwm
It's AR, what do you expect?
I fully expect one day to see a serious thread break down into who makes the best micro-wave popcorn!
BTW, it's Orville Redenbackers Movie Theater Butter.
Thought you might want to know.
LORD, let my bullets go where my crosshairs show.
Not all who wander are lost.
NEVER TRUST A FART!!!
Cecil Leonard
19 March 2012, 06:06
Heym 450/400No not arguing... I asked a simple packing question then California mountain man decided to let everyone now all he needs is whisky and cigars.
19 March 2012, 06:12
Mike_DettorreHeym,
You probably want to double check your chronology, logic, and spelling.
MikeLegistine actu quod scripsi?
Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
19 March 2012, 06:23
Heym 450/400Mike,
You should add a number 14. Shampoo is for girls
p.s. Proofreading is for girls
19 March 2012, 08:42
Larry SellersLast time to Africa, I did the carry on thing also. Besides what I wore on the plane, just took 1 pr pants, 1 shirt, 1 pr socks, and a toothbrush. Didn't even use the personal item bag that you are allowed on board. Anxious to see if anyone can beat this???
Larry Sellers
SCI Life Member
19 March 2012, 09:21
MolepololeI could go weeks without shampoo - just give me a bar of soap. You can really tell this is a guys forum (except for you, Ann), as not one of you has mentioned an extra clean pair or two of underwear, which I'd much rather have than shampoo.
19 March 2012, 09:33
pagosawingnutSince I'm allowed 70 lbs per bag, I am guilty of trying to use it all. I always take my own firearms and ammo and usually take way more stuff than I need. Don't know what the camp has that I might need. On the other hand. I don't mind leaving stuff that the locals or even the PH's can use to lighten the load when I'm done. Just a note on ammo. Don't leave every single round you have left if you're not leaving the country just yet. I spent 3 nights in a fishing camp that had lions in camp every night and I had left ALL of my ammo with my PH. Still kicking myself for that. All's well that ends well, I guess.
19 March 2012, 09:52
fairgamequote:
Originally posted by 465H&H:
I would add gun cleaning equipment.
465H&H
There is brake fluid and some oil in the car.
Added bar of soap and my binos.
Most of the toiletries, batteries etc can be supplied for you by the PH on request. I have done a couple of safaris whereas due to lost luggage the hunter borrowed everything.
The most I have seen was 14 five feet Cabelas bags bought in by Lary Knowlton including a piano for the local church. Close to half a ton. He left with nothing but his gun and the clothes he was wearing.
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19 March 2012, 10:04
BriceI put my rifle, boots, clothes, etc in a golf club hard side case. The rest is in my ruck sack carry-on. I always have one hand free.
Ten safaris.
19 March 2012, 12:24
Caracalquote:
What really do you need on safari? Your laundry is done on a daily basis and your PH comes with a sharp knife, first aid, GPS and a ball of string.
Just packing up to send a week or so in the bush and everything I have packs into a rucksack.
Pair of shorts, long trousers, two shirts and a jacket. Couple pair of socks and my boots. A knife, whiskey and some rounds of .404, a LED lenser, camera and batteries. Sat phone and a framed photo of my wife
Still got some space.
I would only add binos, a hat.
19 March 2012, 19:12
ozhunterA good Axe, Machete and Chainsaw could be handy at this time of year.
19 March 2012, 19:21
MacD37quote:
Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
What are you using for TP?
He's tuff! he uses a hand full of buffalo beans and leafs!
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19 March 2012, 19:36
Scott Kingquote:
Originally posted by fairgame:
quote:
Originally posted by 465H&H:
I would add gun cleaning equipment.
465H&H
There is brake fluid and some oil in the car.
Added bar of soap and my binos.
Most of the toiletries, batteries etc can be supplied for you by the PH on request. I have done a couple of safaris whereas due to lost luggage the hunter borrowed everything.
The most I have seen was 14 five feet Cabelas bags bought in by Lary Knowlton including a piano for the local church. Close to half a ton. He left with nothing but his gun and the clothes he was wearing.
The client brought a piano. I'm impressed.
I'd prefer to remain clean shaven so what would the plan be for razors available if only packing a carry on? I borrowed while there in the past and they seemed a little rough.
19 March 2012, 20:20
Bwana Mojaquote:
Pair of shorts, long trousers, two shirts and a jacket. Couple pair of socks and my boots. A knife, whiskey and some rounds of .404, a LED lenser, camera and batteries. Sat phone and a framed photo of my wife
Andrew: You're packing way too much stuff. Ditch the shorts. Swap out the knife for a Leatherman. Bullet(s)? What's that "s" for? One bullet is all you need. Pack a butane lighter just in case you need to light a fire. Also don't forget the framed picture of your children.
19 March 2012, 20:45
Todd Williamsquote:
Originally posted by Scott King:
quote:
Originally posted by fairgame:
quote:
Originally posted by 465H&H:
I would add gun cleaning equipment.
465H&H
There is brake fluid and some oil in the car.
Added bar of soap and my binos.
Most of the toiletries, batteries etc can be supplied for you by the PH on request. I have done a couple of safaris whereas due to lost luggage the hunter borrowed everything.
The most I have seen was 14 five feet Cabelas bags bought in by Lary Knowlton including a piano for the local church. Close to half a ton. He left with nothing but his gun and the clothes he was wearing.
The client brought a piano. I'm impressed.
I'd prefer to remain clean shaven so what would the plan be for razors available if only packing a carry on? I borrowed while there in the past and they seemed a little rough.
You can carry on razors. It's one of the items that makes me chuckle when considering how effective the TSA and it's regulations are (not).
Also, when my 16 year old son and I arrived at camp in Zim last June, after getting settled into our respective tents, he asked if I had any spare shampoo? "Shampoo? That's for girls. Use the soap.". He was horrified. But then again, he's a teenager with raging hormones and didn't realize there would be no girl chasing for the next 14 days.
I think the Johnny Walker Blue would take priority over shampoo. And that doesn't just apply to Safari!!