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20 October 2013, 19:49

surestrike

6 years, 3 months, and 10 days ish....

20 October 2013, 20:30

Aaron Neilson

WOW!!!!

Mike, I think I would just "ground check" that one!!!!

20 October 2013, 22:23

bambazonke

PH Dean Kendell was on this hunt, he's on his way back from TZ will ask him

20 October 2013, 22:26

505ED

I guess old enough...

Ed

20 October 2013, 22:29

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20 October 2013, 23:14

bwana cecil

Not sure how many birthdays he's had, but he ain't gonna have anymore.

21 October 2013, 00:20

Michael Robinson

Now, THAT is a lion!

21 October 2013, 01:45

David Hulme

I'd like to see it from a different angle before I state a definite age.

21 October 2013, 02:11

boarkiller

I'd say about my age
No more females, just some zebra here and there

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21 October 2013, 02:17

cjfoster

He's dead and a half!

Great looking lion.

21 October 2013, 02:45

Sean Russell

Obviously too old--he laid down and died--

21 October 2013, 03:38

Jefffive

As old as he'll ever be.

21 October 2013, 04:09

Bwana Bunduki

Mike,

Who cares?????

Jeff

21 October 2013, 10:48

Bwanamich

anywhere between 6 and 9........ till more is revealed

Wonderful cat, hopefully hunted properly....

Kudos to the hunters

21 October 2013, 21:33

Saeed

quote:
Originally posted by Bwanamich:
anywhere between 6 and 9........ till more is revealed

Wonderful cat, hopefully hunted properly....

Kudos to the hunters

Mitch,

If someone with your experience and knowledge of lions cannot age a lion, what chance has a PH in the field?

A few days ago we watched two lions two males in Tanzania. I was with Roy and Alan Vincent. The lions were from 100-200 yards assay from us. And we looked at them, on several days, from every conceivable angle one can get at that distance.

We could not agree on the age of these two, except that they were both below 6 years old.

How certain can one judge a lion's age in the field?

How certain can one judge a lion's age after examining its teeth?

21 October 2013, 22:17

jkhunter

Toughest age to judge is the 5 to 6 years of age group, I have not seen a Tanzania Lion over 6 years of age except for Lions in the National Parks.

As for this Monster, its impossible to judge his age from this photo, but with this amount of Hair he is a super beast what ever his age is,

Was this the Male hunted by Paul Stones and his client?

PS Saeed loved your Tanzania Hunting report,

21 October 2013, 23:43

fujotupu

quote:
If someone with your experience and knowledge of lions cannot age a lion, what chance has a PH in the field?

The current trend is the great reluctance by a number of PHs (experienced ones) to reject almost every lion unless its got a patch over one eye and hobbling about on crutches ..... and if its in the company of a pride, don't even think about it.

"How certain can one judge a lion's age in the field?"

"How certain can one judge a lion's age after examining its teeth?"

NONE whatsoever on both questions unless its one of those hand-reared, ball-stroked and blow-dried jobs that one will find south of the TZ borders.

To the best of my knowledge, NO-ONE in TZ has to date been told if their lion qualified or not - let's not even talk about putting an age against the animal!

I have not heard of any outfitter losing quota or a PH being reprimanded or fined for having taken an underage lion nor of a lion trophy not being exported.

This leads us all to believe therefore that however many/few that have so far been taken have all met with the requirements

What a bloody farce!

22 October 2013, 04:28

npd345

quote:
Originally posted by Bwana Bunduki:
Mike,

Who cares?????

Jeff

25 October 2013, 01:40

Bos en Dal Safari's

Very nice speciman, does not matter how old he was.

Regards

25 October 2013, 01:57

ledvm

quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
quote:
Originally posted by Bwanamich:
anywhere between 6 and 9........ till more is revealed

Wonderful cat, hopefully hunted properly....

Kudos to the hunters

Mitch,

If someone with your experience and knowledge of lions cannot age a lion, what chance has a PH in the field?

A few days ago we watched two lions two males in Tanzania. I was with Roy and Alan Vincent. The lions were from 100-200 yards assay from us. And we looked at them, on several days, from every conceivable angle one can get at that distance.

We could not agree on the age of these two, except that they were both below 6 years old.

How certain can one judge a lion's age in the field?

How certain can one judge a lion's age after examining its teeth?

Saeed,
Respectfully, I would interject and say that he did all that was needed and put him into the >6 category. That is all one is asked to do in the field.

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25 October 2013, 01:58

ledvm

quote:
Originally posted by jkhunter:
Toughest age to judge is the 5 to 6 years of age group, I have not seen a Tanzania Lion over 6 years of age except for Lions in the National Parks.

As for this Monster, its impossible to judge his age from this photo, but with this amount of Hair he is a super beast what ever his age is,

Was this the Male hunted by Paul Stones and his client?

PS Saeed loved your Tanzania Hunting report,

A sage reply!

30 October 2013, 12:15

bambazonke

spoke to Dean Kendall last night he recons 8-9 years old .there where 2 off them both shootable found them walking in open country and client banged this one
most of his teeth where broken considering he was in good condition
right place at the right time