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Wanted -- high res pic of buff charge, OR full frontal buffALO!
25 March 2007, 02:29
CanuckWanted -- high res pic of buff charge, OR full frontal buffALO!
Inspired by PeterV's report of big bore shooting practice in Zim....these pic's in particular....
...I started eyeing up our plotters at work. I can print a picture 36" wide, and longer than that if necessary (unlimited length). I did a practice run with a picture of a cape buff and got a decent 'life size'. Its a little blurry due to the low res of the picture and the huge print size, but not bad...and at shooting distance its actually pretty clear.
I was just wondering if anyone has a good pic (or pics) of a buff standing straight on, or actually in the midst of a charge? The only ones I have found on the 'net are standing slightly broadside. It would be nice to have one with the chest showing like Peter's pic's above.
Thanks in advance,
Canuck
25 March 2007, 02:38
David HulmeUnfortunately, I was standing to the right of the the hunters and didn't get a full frontal. Will try to position myself better next time.
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25 March 2007, 03:43
ForrestBI didn't have a camera handy, but I have an image of one that I can't get out of my mind. Sorry I can't help you with a print version.
I've seen some good photos on the internet, but the low resolution will be the big hurdle. I think a plywood cut-out would be just as effective though not as "pretty".
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25 March 2007, 04:14
Jaco HumanCanuck,
The buffalo pics that you posted, are the ones we use at SAHGCA, they sell at R12.00 each. Send me a PM if you want some.
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www.sahuntexp.com 25 March 2007, 04:33
retreeverI had those same targets and we shot them all up...
Need some more...
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25 March 2007, 22:31
MacD37We had the same targets at our last DRSS shoot/hunt, brought over by Katte a member of of the
Big Bore Assosiationof Southern Africa! We also had life size warthog, impala, and wildebeast. Katte set up the targets amoung some mesquite bush, with the wart hog out at around 50 yds, over to the left were two impala targets, and in the middle between the hog, and impala targets, were three cape bufflao targets.
The shooting started at a shooting position, to fire one shot that was about 50 yds from the warthog,then you had to change possition to fire one shot on one of the impala, and change again to shoot to other impala, now change position again, for the cape buffalo targets. This segment is fire one shot each on the buffalo targets, starting at the farthest one,which is about 18 yds, then the next closest one,which is about 8 yds, and the the last on that is only 4 yds away.
Starting out with the double loaded, fire one on the hog, change position for the first impala! The re-load sequince is up to the shooter, as to where, and how many cartridges are re-loaded at any one time to shoot against time. All shots must be killing shots, with the last shot on the buffalo being a stopper, with a BRAIN shot! Fast doesn't count if you don't hit the kill zone on all targets. My sequence was ONE on the hog, reload that barrel on the way to the first impala, fire ONE barrel on each of the impala, and reload both barrels on the way to the next position, for the first Buffalo for a hart/lung , frontal shot on the first, and second buffalo, then re-load one barrel for the brain shot on the last buffalo, for a total of six shots, all in the kill zone.
This was a hard course not only because of the trees covering all targets requireing changing shoot position, for each target, but it was 20 degrees F, and blowing snow! Cold fingers, and being pushed by time, and running from position to position, fireing as quickly as is posible, and still hitting the kill zones, and brain shot. I hit all kill zones, and my time was right with Tony, who didn't miss a shot either. Some one filmed the shooting, but the cold kept killing the camera batteries, so I don't know how it turned out.
I'm hopeing we re-do this at the June DRSS hunt/shoot when my fingers can feel the cartridges!

the targets should have been polar bears, instead of African animals!

A few years ago, we had some home made targets for timed Buffalo targets. We had three targets, one faceing the shooter at 40 yds, one broad side at the same distance, and a going away target at 20 yds farther, at 60 yds. This was to fire on the faceing target, then put the other barrel in the broad side target, then two shots up the old shout at the going away target, against the clock.
The targets were repositioned for a charge sequince, with a side shot at 40 yds, then two targets faceing the shooter, at 20 yds, and 8 yds. There are no aiming points on any of the targets, but like the targets in the pictures posted here, outlined by invisable lines up close. The closeing targets were fired two shots on the first target two on the second target, and a brain shot on the 6 yd target,for a total of five shots, with two re-loads in the sequince.
......................FUN!

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26 March 2007, 11:15
PeterVMac,
Katte is still whinging about the cold

though he does admit to having a ton of fun!
Our Big Bore Association uses a variety of these targets - some are available locally via Garipani targets while we make some of the others ourselves e.g. the large ele versions.
26 March 2007, 11:39
N E 450 No2We did have a great time at that DRSS hunt/shoot.
We also managed to kill quite a few pigs.
It was the first time I have killed pigs in the snow!!!

If you are thinking about getting a double, a DRSS hunt is well worth the time and money spent.
At the last few hunts/shoots we have had doubles from the 400/360 to the 577 Nitro.
You can learn more about double rifles, in less time, at a DRSS event than ANYWHERE on the Planet.
Plus you will have a great time as well.

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27 March 2007, 02:22
Safarischorschquote:
Originally posted by David Hulme:
Unfortunately, I was standing to the right of the the hunters and didn't get a full frontal. Will try to position myself better next time.
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WoW! That cow seems to be not amused.

27 March 2007, 02:50
Jaco HumanI got some prices today. The price of the targets is nothing compared with the bank charges and the postage by airmail. The targets will then cost about $5-00 each. To me it is very expensive for a piece of paper that will be shot full of holes.
Life is how you spend the time between hunting trips.
Through Responsible Sustainable hunting we serve Conservation.
Outfitter permit no. Limpopo ZA/LP/73984
PH permit no. Limpopo ZA/LP/81197
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SA Hunting Experience
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www.sahuntexp.com 27 March 2007, 08:08
Canuckquote:
The targets will then cost about $5-00 each. To me it is very expensive for a piece of paper that will be shot full of holes.
Ouch! That is steep. I sure appreciate you going to the effort to look into it though!!

Still on the hunt for a good, hi-res picture of a full frontal buff if anyone has one to share.
Cheers,
Canuck
27 March 2007, 09:15
LRH270Wanted, pics of full frontal buff.........oh, nevermind

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27 March 2007, 09:19
CanuckThought my play on words might get a little more traffic on this thread, but now I see I better change it before someone takes me too literally!

Cheers,
Canuck
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I always try to use enough gun but then sometimes a brainshot works just as good.
I would guess that in typical hunting conditions a clear shot at the chest isn't the majority of cases. Here's a snapshot of mine that might also be a candidate for a practice target, offering a typical but difficult in high grass shot. By the way, the photo was taken in the Kruger, no shooting allowed. Otherwise, he would have been a goner.
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http://www.pbase.com/cjw/image/3062879628 March 2007, 11:11
Bwanamichhere a few. Not sure abouot how the resolution will be once magnified...
Others I have are mostly "3/4 on" or poor resolution
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28 March 2007, 19:49
CanuckThose are great guys. Thanks and keep 'em coming!
I also found this one in Saeed's Photo Album's (off the main AR page)...
It would look meaner without the grass in its mouth, but the position is great!

Cheers,
Canuck
31 March 2007, 06:55
Canuckbtt...still looking!

05 April 2007, 11:55
500nitroThe charging buff on the dolly in the first post was the brainchild of yours truly at the last BASA shoot at the end of 2006.
I had set it up using an old reversible electric moving target motor from my Bianchi shooting days and made the dolly. Naturally it worked great while being tested and set up, but the motor burnt out after the first couple of shooters. Probably just as well. It was set up to travel at a stately 12 feet per second, and even at that speed caused a few lads to have eyes like a raped owl.

We ended up pulling the dolly towards the shooter by making the shooter who had just finished tug the rope for the next shooter. This of course showed guys just how much they could depend on their "good" buddy when the competition was on.

The shooter started by taking a facing shot at a buff approx 35yds away, and then moving to a second shooting spot about 4/5yds to the right (giving double and single shot rifles the opportunity to reload) , where as the second buff became visible it commenced its charge.
The shoot was against the clock as well,
Had all worked according to plan the charging buff would have taken just under 5 seconds to reach the shooter, as it was, it took closer to 8/9 sec. But as the shotgun pattern on the target pics suggest, it was entertaining to say the least, and there was a lot of ribbing afterwards.

This year will see the motor replaced with a new motor capable of dragging a truck, so we should have some fun.
05 April 2007, 17:22
PalmerTo print pictures of buff at an accurate scale what should be the tip of ear to tip of ear dimension?
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What spires, what farms are those?
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I see it shining plain,
The happy highways where I went
And cannot come again.
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05 April 2007, 18:52
500nitroAllen,
about 34" would be fine