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28 April 2024, 18:01
larryshoresDSC in Atlanta
We flew to Atlanta yesterday for the GA SCI fundraiser . I took the opportunity to ask the driver about crime around the convention center where DSC will be held in January . . If what he says is true, crime is much less of an issue than some believe .
Thought I would pass that along .
28 April 2024, 18:51
SaeedAre you asking about “crime” in the city in general or “crime” within SCI??
28 April 2024, 21:32
jjbullDSC recently addressed this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcILvdH9NuE
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29 April 2024, 07:23
470EDDYDid they forget DSC is all about TEXAS??!!
I ain't goin to Atlanta, and I am letting my membership in DSC expire!!
TRUE...
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29 April 2024, 09:01
lavacaWell that's a bit of an overreaction, but I may go to SCI for a year or two. I'm a life member after all.
30 April 2024, 06:02
Badger MattI’ll be there
30 April 2024, 06:48
Michael RobinsonCarjackings seem to be the most rampant type of random urban crime these days.
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30 April 2024, 06:51
K EvansMy wife and will not be going to Atlanta, I wish them the best but personally, I think it is a huge mistake to abandon their traditional exhibitor/attendee base in Texas. Time will tell!
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30 April 2024, 08:00
Texas Blue Devilquote:
Originally posted by K Evans:
My wife and will not be going to Atlanta, I wish them the best but personally, I think it is a huge mistake to abandon their traditional exhibitor/attendee base in Texas. Time will tell!
That’s where I am. I wish them luck, but I’m going to SCI.
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30 April 2024, 08:11
K Evansquote:
That’s where I am. I wish them luck, but I’m going to SCI.
Yep…hotel reservations made!
Karl Evans
02 May 2024, 03:02
Todd WilliamsI'll be taking a pass on DSC this year. No interest in going to Atlanta.
02 May 2024, 03:45
larryshoresI’d go but I have a conflict.
Do I get the impression that some palms were greased to go there?
02 May 2024, 07:08
Wesheltonjquote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
Do I get the impression that some palms were greased to go there?
Something went on, and no one is talking.
02 May 2024, 08:11
K Evans[/QUOTE]Something went on, and no one is talking.[/QUOTE]
I imagine the folks in Atlanta made some pretty good concessions to get them to book multiple years. I’ve heard all of the compelling reasons for the move, none made much sense to me. I spoke with a board member about it and got the same old story about “having” to move because no place in Texas could accommodate a show this big. After a year or two in Atlanta there may be a lot of Texas venues large enough to host the show. Weatherby leaving says a lot to me. Damned shame, but I hope they see what is happening return to the club it was. Not a week goes by without a call or message from someone lamenting the direction of the club.
Karl Evans
02 May 2024, 08:19
Bwana338My wife wants to visit relatives in Tennessee and I am thinking about taking in a couple of day at the SCI convention while she visit her cousins that she has found while doing the genealogy tracking.
She just needs to make up her mind and we will look at doing something driving over and making a return trip in a different direction.
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quote:
Originally posted by K Evans:
Something went on, and no one is talking.[/QUOTE]
I imagine the folks in Atlanta made some pretty good concessions to get them to book multiple years. I’ve heard all of the compelling reasons for the move, none made much sense to me. I spoke with a board member about it and got the same old story about “having” to move because no place in Texas could accommodate a show this big. After a year or two in Atlanta there may be a lot of Texas venues large enough to host the show. Weatherby leaving says a lot to me. Damned shame, but I hope they see what is happening return to the club it was. Not a week goes by without a call or message from someone lamenting the direction of the club.[/QUOTE]
So sad to see DSC going the same route as SCI!
Members and common sense no longer matter.
Some nincompoop in charge thinks he is a big shot and signs multi year contract??
Totally ignoring their base?
Just part of the trend back to only rich people being able to afford safari hunting. Money talks.
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02 May 2024, 17:44
larryshoresI think there is little doubt that DSC would have had to move from the Kay Bailey Hutchinson Center at some point . Emphasis at some point . It is in fact being torn down. However , the move was no where near as urgent as management has represented. After all, TTHA is having an event there on the same dates as DSC.
I totally get the TX issue . Management has indicated that there was no location in TX that could accommodate the DSC convention. True or not I do not know . I do know they absolutely misrepresented the availability of the KBH Convention Center.
Time will tell how this move fares for the club.
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Originally posted by larryshores:
I think there is little doubt that DSC would have had to move from the Kay Bailey Hutchinson Center at some point . Emphasis at some point . It is in fact being torn down. However , the move was no where near as urgent as management has represented. After all, TTHA is having an event there on the same dates as DSC.
I totally get the TX issue . Management has indicated that there was no location in TX that could accommodate the DSC convention. True or not I do not know . I do know they absolutely misrepresented the availability of the KBH Convention Center.
Time will tell how this move fares for the club.
So basically, they screwed up.
On purpose!
03 May 2024, 03:52
470EDDYI was president of the Northwest Chapter of SCI, ie Seattle, so was on the the International Board during the split off of Dallas and Houston. VERY TUMULTUOUS, and I knew the people, painful!!
Seems like DSC has gone full circle with the new officers and board, who might not fully understand the strings they are pulling??
SCI has had TUMULTUOUS Times too, but right now, it seems to me they have it together with present CEO and leadership... so they get the cherry with WEATHERBY FOUNDATION going back to their roots with SCI??!!.... "What goes around.... "
We are cruising Africa, so we won't be at either event... and sadly, because I have a standing table invite at the Weatherby event, and I enjoy it... Black Tie n all!!
470EDDY
03 May 2024, 04:37
Wesheltonjquote:
Originally posted by larryshores:
I think there is little doubt that DSC would have had to move from the Kay Bailey Hutchinson Center at some point . Emphasis at some point . It is in fact being torn down. However , the move was no where near as urgent as management has represented. After all, TTHA is having an event there on the same dates as DSC.
I totally get the TX issue . Management has indicated that there was no location in TX that could accommodate the DSC convention. True or not I do not know . I do know they absolutely misrepresented the availability of the KBH Convention Center.
Time will tell how this move fares for the club.
BS that no other place could handle the event. Houston and San Antonio both could have. Now if the dates they wanted were available that's a different story. And the BS about San Antonio under construction too, they just finish a huge addition. They are talking about adding another Story to the building, that would not interfere with any convention.
All I see from the ad on TV are the distance from various southern cities to attended.
03 May 2024, 17:21
larryshoresI suspect your last statement is the real reason for the move .
04 May 2024, 02:42
LHeym500SCI coming to Nashville was great in terms of attendance and hunts sold.
Atlanta is the largest city in the South.
The works is bigger than Texas.
The old regime had started reaching out chapters and members outside of Texas.
As long as you guys keep crying about Texas international hunting will always be a “small people” to quote Peter O’Toole’s TE Lawrence.
I joined SCI because they came East first.
04 May 2024, 17:02
bwanamrmquote:
SCI coming to Nashville was great in terms of attendance and hunts sold.
Atlanta is the largest city in the South.
The works is bigger than Texas.
The old regime had started reaching out chapters and members outside of Texas.
As long as you guys keep crying about Texas international hunting will always be a “small people” to quote Peter O’Toole’s TE Lawrence.
I joined SCI because they came East first.
Small people? Seriously? And you have never been to the conventions? Or really hunted internationally outside a couple of trips to Europe? You are quite full of yourself sir and what I consider an armchair expert of the first rank. Do we still have the "ignore" button? A better definition of small people might be those who don't have the experience but are full of self-assured opinions...
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04 May 2024, 18:57
LHeym500Seriously, why do you think deer hunters in Pennsylvania do not understand international hunting.
It is bc the main advocates complain it is not a Texas Club.
Walks right into the left hook of staying small within the understanding of a larger demographic.
It is part of the reason MeatEater feels the need to separate from international hunting.
04 May 2024, 19:21
bwanamrmquote:
Seriously, why do you think deer hunters in Pennsylvania do not understand international hunting.
It is bc the main advocates complain it is not a Texas Club.
Walks right into the left hook of staying small within the understanding of a larger demographic.
It is part of the reason MeatEater feels the need to separate from international hunting.
What? What do Pennsylvania deer hunters have to do with DSC's move? And they don't understand international hunting because you think DSC is a Texas Club?
Your arguments are obtuse at best, ineffective and churlish at their worst. And your spelling is atrocious!
No one is arguing about it being a "Texas" only club... it hasn't been for twenty plus years.
And how many DSC conventions have you attended? Or SCI Conventions? Many of the folks who posted their opinions here I know and have seen personally a the shows over the years, yet you come on this thread with no experience with it whatsoever and call people small? Even better you say we don't understand the demographics? What an arrogant prick you are.
And I could care less what some TV celeb like Meateater thinks...
I don't know what caused your dislike of Texans but you can rest assured I don't have a particularly high opinion of you either. I see you as an AR contributor at it's worst! There is my right hook...
On the plains of hesitation lie the bleached bones of ten thousand, who on the dawn of victory lay down their weary heads resting, and there resting, died.
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch...
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!
- Rudyard Kipling
Life grows grim without senseless indulgence.
05 May 2024, 02:26
MLindsayRussell, you are wasting your energy typing when dealing with him. He is a well educated idiot, that knows nothing about the realm of international hunting.
05 May 2024, 03:58
KpoynterNow now guys…. This isn’t the political forum
He has a right to his opinion.
There is certainly a valid point to be made about a general perception to most that DSC is TX based as it’s in the name….
They just grew out of it a bit.
There is a branding issue/problem with this especially when trying to differentiate against SCI
There’s no need to beat each other up over the perception or opinions
05 May 2024, 07:10
bwanamrmAnd I have a right to mine...
On the plains of hesitation lie the bleached bones of ten thousand, who on the dawn of victory lay down their weary heads resting, and there resting, died.
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch...
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!
- Rudyard Kipling
Life grows grim without senseless indulgence.
05 May 2024, 08:06
Kpoynterquote:
Originally posted by bwanamrm:
And I have a right to mine...
You do indeed… you seem to be rather adamant about it
A bit touchy I dare say
As a Life member and long time exhibitor, I ask where will they get all the DSC volunteers to work the show? I can't see volunteers traveling to Atlanta, paying for lodging and other expenses just to volunteer. I am pretty sure there were other venues in north Texas that could have been used. Something stinks about this. Time will tell, but I do not believe much of the local Texas crowd will travel to attend.
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10 May 2024, 21:09
Todd Williamsquote:
Originally posted by M.Shy:
It’s good for you Texans to get out past state boundary once in awhile
Builds a character and you’ll find out, there is other people outside Texas
It's only been 3 months or so but I'm still waiting for AR's newest troll to make a single post of value to the membership.
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10 May 2024, 21:39
K EvansI’m currently in Zimbabwe, have visited with several outfitters, both on the plane over and in camps. To a person, no one likes the decision but most are going to try it one year. Some say they are planning on trying the show in Dallas. Time will tell.
Karl Evans
10 May 2024, 21:57
fairgamequote:
Originally posted by bwanamrm:
quote:
Seriously, why do you think deer hunters in Pennsylvania do not understand international hunting.
It is bc the main advocates complain it is not a Texas Club.
Walks right into the left hook of staying small within the understanding of a larger demographic.
It is part of the reason MeatEater feels the need to separate from international hunting.
What? What do Pennsylvania deer hunters have to do with DSC's move? And they don't understand international hunting because you think DSC is a Texas Club?
Your arguments are obtuse at best, ineffective and churlish at their worst. And your spelling is atrocious!
No one is arguing about it being a "Texas" only club... it hasn't been for twenty plus years.
And how many DSC conventions have you attended? Or SCI Conventions? Many of the folks who posted their opinions here I know and have seen personally a the shows over the years, yet you come on this thread with no experience with it whatsoever and call people small? Even better you say we don't understand the demographics? What an arrogant prick you are.
And I could care less what some TV celeb like Meateater thinks...
I don't know what caused your dislike of Texans but you can rest assured I don't have a particularly high opinion of you either. I see you as an AR contributor at it's worst! There is my right hook...
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10 May 2024, 22:16
crbutlerThis strikes me as being an outcome when leadership is excessively influenced by marketers and loses track of its core group.
Yes, DSC is about international hunting. Yes, it is a national organization.
But it’s core in its name is Texas, and it’s big differentiation from SCI is/was that it was primarily a volunteer club.
Moving from its roots and expecting a new city to come front and center to replace all the volunteers is in my mind, unlikely.
That we have ex leaders of a group of volunteers who can’t get a sense of what is behind this is concerning.
I hope DSC continues its success, but this is beginning to sound like the kind of issues that caused DSC to split from SCI in the first place- lack of local accountability.
10 May 2024, 22:30
larryshoresquote:
Originally posted by Brain1:
As a Life member and long time exhibitor, I ask where will they get all the DSC volunteers to work the show? I can't see volunteers traveling to Atlanta, paying for lodging and other expenses just to volunteer. I am pretty sure there were other venues in north Texas that could have been used. Something stinks about this. Time will tell, but I do not believe much of the local Texas crowd will travel to attend.
Great question.
10 May 2024, 23:26
K Evansquote:
As a Life member and long time exhibitor, I ask where will they get all the DSC volunteers to work the show?
I asked the Atlanta convention chair, and board director this very question…his answer was that DSC “was going to roll out the red carpet for volunteers”. I’ll bet.
Karl Evans