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Need German-speaking hunter
As I recall, there is a German word for the sound of bullet impact on an animal. I think the word was somewhat onomatopoeic, i.e. sounds like what it represents. Anyone?
06 May 2013, 23:54
jaegerfrankThat is the so called "Kugelschlag".
07 May 2013, 00:10
ChrisTroskieKugelschlag indeed... Or more unelequently put: "furz" (fart)...
07 May 2013, 01:48
Bockhunter"Kugelschlag" is correct.
Bockhunter
Thank you very much, gentlemen. Now, would someone be so kind as to interpret to English, or must I endure Google or Wiki?
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Originally posted by ChrisTroskie:
Kugelschlag indeed... Or more unelequently put: "furz" (fart)...
Bloody hell, does that mean that each time I hit an animal I fart?
07 May 2013, 07:56
Antlersquote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
quote:
Originally posted by ChrisTroskie:
Kugelschlag indeed... Or more unelequently put: "furz" (fart)...
Bloody hell, does that mean that each time I hit an animal I fart?
Maybe it means the animal does.
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I suppose one can expect anything from the Germans!
If one takes Walter as an example.
I have known him for so many years, have hunted with him so many times, but still cannot make head or tails about his behavior!
07 May 2013, 08:29
jdollari never knew Walter was German! never too old to live and learn, i guess...
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07 May 2013, 09:12
Matt Grahamquote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
quote:
Originally posted by ChrisTroskie:
Kugelschlag indeed... Or more unelequently put: "furz" (fart)...
Bloody hell, does that mean that each time I hit an animal I fart?
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07 May 2013, 09:23
Scriptusquote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
I suppose one can expect anything from the Germans!
If one takes Walter as an example.
I have known him for so many years, have hunted with him so many times, but still cannot make head or tails about his behavior!
But we have videoed evidence of him farting!!!
07 May 2013, 09:37
ChrisTroskiequote:
Originally posted by Brice:
Thank you very much, gentlemen. Now, would someone be so kind as to interpret to English, or must I endure Google or Wiki?
Bullet hit
Es gab darüber eine sehr ausführlichen Bericht in der WuH. Ist allerdings schon längere Zeit her.
Soweit ich mich an den Bericht erinnern kann, hängt es davon ab, in welcher Position man sich zum Schützen und zum beschossenen Wild befindet.
Nehmen wir die zwei extremen Situationen:
1. Du befindest Dich in Verlängerung der Achse Schütze - Wild. In diesem Falle hörst Du in der Regel nichts, weil der Schall sich linear ausbreitet und Du Schussknall und Kugelschlag (fast) gleichzeitig hörst und der (sehr viel lautere) Schussknall den Kugelschlag überdeckt.
2. Du befindes Dich entgegengesetzt der Schussrichtung, also vom Wild aus gesehen hinter dem Schützen. In diesem Fall hörst Du Kugelschlag, weil der Schussknall Dich mehrere Bruchteile von Sekunden vor dem Kugelschlag erreicht, da ja das Geschoss erst auf den Wildkörper auftreffen muss, bevor Kugelschlag entsteht, während Dich der Schussknall ohne Umwege direkt erreicht.
Es gibt dann noch Grenzfälle, in denen dann Dein Ohr sich nach dem Schussknall noch nicht so weit "erholt" hat, damit es bereits wieder den sehr viel leiseren Kugelschlag wahrnehmen kann. Zudem spielt natürlich der Wind auch eine Rolle.
I found this, but it wasn't very helpful. I need more help, guys. I know you're out there.
Quintessenz: Es gibt den Kugelschlag. Man kann ihn aber nicht immer und jederzeit verifizieren.
Ergänzung: Die ideale Position, um den Kugelschlag zu hören, war laut Bericht (fast) rechtwinklig zur Schussrichtung neben (oder etwas hinter) dem Schützen.
quote:
Originally posted by Brice:
Es gab darüber eine sehr ausführlichen Bericht in der WuH. Ist allerdings schon längere Zeit her.
Soweit ich mich an den Bericht erinnern kann, hängt es davon ab, in welcher Position man sich zum Schützen und zum beschossenen Wild befindet.
Nehmen wir die zwei extremen Situationen:
1. Du befindest Dich in Verlängerung der Achse Schütze - Wild. In diesem Falle hörst Du in der Regel nichts, weil der Schall sich linear ausbreitet und Du Schussknall und Kugelschlag (fast) gleichzeitig hörst und der (sehr viel lautere) Schussknall den Kugelschlag überdeckt.
2. Du befindes Dich entgegengesetzt der Schussrichtung, also vom Wild aus gesehen hinter dem Schützen. In diesem Fall hörst Du Kugelschlag, weil der Schussknall Dich mehrere Bruchteile von Sekunden vor dem Kugelschlag erreicht, da ja das Geschoss erst auf den Wildkörper auftreffen muss, bevor Kugelschlag entsteht, während Dich der Schussknall ohne Umwege direkt erreicht.
Es gibt dann noch Grenzfälle, in denen dann Dein Ohr sich nach dem Schussknall noch nicht so weit "erholt" hat, damit es bereits wieder den sehr viel leiseren Kugelschlag wahrnehmen kann. Zudem spielt natürlich der Wind auch eine Rolle.
I found this, but it wasn't very helpful. I need more help, guys. I know you're out there.
Quintessenz: Es gibt den Kugelschlag. Man kann ihn aber nicht immer und jederzeit verifizieren.
Ergänzung: Die ideale Position, um den Kugelschlag zu hören, war laut Bericht (fast) rechtwinklig zur Schussrichtung neben (oder etwas hinter) dem Schützen.
The above is telling you that your position in relation to the shooter/animal will determine wether you hear the kugelschlag or not, as the Schussknall (Gunblast) can cause you not to hear it. Essentially Number 2 tells you that if you are behind the shooter you will hear the Kugelschlag, however wind can affect it, as well as other circumstances where your ear has not recovered in time hence making the quieter Kugelschlag less audible. The last sentence is telling you, that there is definately a Kugelschlag, you can't always verify it though due to wind, gunblast etc etc.. What exactly do you need more help with? All a "Kugelschlag" is, is a word that describes bullet impact or a positive hit..
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07 May 2013, 12:47
Matt GrahamI love the sound of kugelschlag in the morning!
Just my reasoning, but I always thought if the person who hears the kugelschlag is closer to the animal than the shooter, it will be heard. If you are behind the shooter, then how can you first hear the kugelschlag . . . if the bullet has to first travel to the animal, hit it, then that sound of the schlag make it all the way back to you, before you hear the gun go off? Just doesn't make sense to me. Oh well, sometimes I hear it, sometimes I don't
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Thanks for the interpretation, Deon. And to Matt Graham, I agree. At 0430 I had an inspiration. Could it be that it is the act of exercising the kugel muscle while schlagging?
Like Scriptus, I'm a bit of a sesquipedalian.
Brice
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Originally posted by Saeed:
quote:
Originally posted by ChrisTroskie:
Kugelschlag indeed... Or more unelequently put: "furz" (fart)...
Bloody hell, does that mean that each time I hit an animal I fart?
The above translation is not only "more uneloquently put" but also untrue. At least I have not once heard that word used synonymously for "Kugelschlag" during 32 years living in Germany.
07 May 2013, 21:10
ChrisTroskiequote:
Originally posted by JV:
quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
quote:
Originally posted by ChrisTroskie:
Kugelschlag indeed... Or more unelequently put: "furz" (fart)...
Bloody hell, does that mean that each time I hit an animal I fart?
The above translation is not only "more uneloquently put" but also untrue. At least I have not once heard that word used synonymously for "Kugelschlag" during 32 years living in Germany.
I apologize, I did not mean that kugelschlag is synonymous with furz.
I was referring to the sound some hunters make when their shot hits the target... It was a poor attempt at humor.
07 May 2013, 22:43
Scriptusquote:
Originally posted by Brice:
Like Scriptus, I'm a bit of a sesquipedalian.
Brice
Hhuumm! Flattery, thank you.
08 May 2013, 00:01
J.R.JacksonKugel: Ball, sphere
Schlag: Blow, strike, hit, punch, slap, smack, bash, stroke, knock, thump, thud, tap, chime, beat, pulse
Kugelschlag: Impact