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Studies and reports to support hunting
14 September 2015, 16:55
Fallow BuckStudies and reports to support hunting
Hi All,
Somewhere on here there was a post with a heap of science based documentation that demonstrated the benefits of hunting to the general ecosystem.
Does anyone know where it was or have it saved personally where they can email it to me?
Best regards,
K
14 September 2015, 21:43
Andrew McLarenHere a start!
http://www.koedoe.co.za/index....ticle/download/59/59 More to follow.
Andrew McLarenProfessional Hunter and Hunting Outfitter since 1974.
http://www.mclarensafaris.com The home page to go to for custom planning of ethical and affordable hunting of plains game in South Africa!
Enquire about any South African hunting directly from
andrew@mclarensafaris.com After a few years of participation on forums, I have learned that:One can cure: Lack of knowledge – by instruction. Lack of skills – by practice. Lack of experience – by time doing it.
One cannot cure:Stupidity – nothing helps! Anti hunting sentiments – nothing helps! Put-‘n-Take Outfitters – money rules!
My very long ago ancestors needed and loved to eat meat.
Today I still hunt! 14 September 2015, 21:50
Andrew McLarenSome more good reading.
SADC Trophy Hunting Doubt about some figures quoted, e.g. Table 34: $ 650 for 1X1 hunting in 2001!?!?
Andrew McLarenProfessional Hunter and Hunting Outfitter since 1974.
http://www.mclarensafaris.com The home page to go to for custom planning of ethical and affordable hunting of plains game in South Africa!
Enquire about any South African hunting directly from
andrew@mclarensafaris.com After a few years of participation on forums, I have learned that:One can cure: Lack of knowledge – by instruction. Lack of skills – by practice. Lack of experience – by time doing it.
One cannot cure:Stupidity – nothing helps! Anti hunting sentiments – nothing helps! Put-‘n-Take Outfitters – money rules!
My very long ago ancestors needed and loved to eat meat.
Today I still hunt! 14 September 2015, 23:28
Trophic-Hunterquote:
Originally posted by Fallow Buck: "the benefits of hunting to the general ecosystem"
"
the benefits of hunting to the general ecosystem" has actually
not been studied to any great extent, if at all - if you focus on the word
ecosystem.
The benefits to wildlife, to indigenous communities and to the economies of the SADC are all well-documented, but the
ecosystem benefits overall are not.
The benefits of hunting to ecosystems are best quantified by using the value of the
Ecosystem Services which the concession areas provide to the global community.
I calculated, (and presented at Ecosummit-2012), that the value of ecosystem services of the game-ranches of South Africa alone to be in excess of US$20billion/annum* - and those of the CBNRM areas of Namibia at about US$15billion/annum*.
The valuation of ecosystem services is, of course, still in its infancy - and
Payment for Ecosystem Services (PES) is far from being a reality, but any discussion of the value of hunting would be deficient without their inclusion.
*: I used De Groot's numbers (see below).
:: :: ::
Ecosystem Services: UNEP
Ecosystem Services: TEEBWEB
Ecosystem Services: IUCN
Ecosystem Services Valuation (De Groot et al. - 2012)<> <> <>
15 September 2015, 00:56
MJinesThere should be no need to search for this information. Both DSC and SCI should have a dedicated page on their websites that has facts and figures supporting the case for hunting. The information should be presented in an easy to access, easy to understand, bullet point form. It would help to arm their members with information and ensure consistency. I am sure the information in part is on their respective websites, but I have never seen that it is pulled together in one place for ready use.
Mike
15 September 2015, 08:43
Saeedquote:
Originally posted by MJines:
There should be no need to search for this information. Both DSC and SCI should have a dedicated page on their websites that has facts and figures supporting the case for hunting. The information should be presented in an easy to access, easy to understand, bullet point form. It would help to arm their members with information and ensure consistency. I am sure the information in part is on their respective websites, but I have never seen that it is pulled together in one place for ready use.
Should have been done years ago, with regular updates.
16 September 2015, 17:50
Safaris Botswana BoundAs mentioned in the other posts the Hunting Industry in Africa is trying to establish a COALITION FOR CONSERVATION with one of its obectives to establish a panel of experts to respond to negative media reports, there would then be a central point for all these responses to be accessed - it was a possibility that it would fall under a web page ( still to be determined to be run by whom ).
16 September 2015, 18:30
Bwana Bundukiquote:
Originally posted by Trophic-Hunter:
quote:
Originally posted by Fallow Buck: "the benefits of hunting to the general ecosystem"
"
the benefits of hunting to the general ecosystem" has actually
not been studied to any great extent, if at all - if you focus on the word
ecosystem.
The benefits to wildlife, to indigenous communities and to the economies of the SADC are all well-documented, but the
ecosystem benefits overall are not.
The benefits of hunting to ecosystems are best quantified by using the value of the
Ecosystem Services which the concession areas provide to the global community.
I calculated, (and presented at Ecosummit-2012), that the value of ecosystem services of the game-ranches of South Africa alone to be in excess of US$20billion/annum* - and those of the CBNRM areas of Namibia at about US$15billion/annum*.
The valuation of ecosystem services is, of course, still in its infancy - and
Payment for Ecosystem Services (PES) is far from being a reality, but any discussion of the value of hunting would be deficient without their inclusion.
*: I used De Groot's numbers (see below).
:: :: ::
Ecosystem Services: UNEP
Ecosystem Services: TEEBWEB
Ecosystem Services: IUCN
Ecosystem Services Valuation (De Groot et al. - 2012)<> <> <>
Sorry to disagree with you . But without the support of hunting, many ECOSYSTEMS would not even exist.
Jeff
16 September 2015, 22:27
Venture SouthKiri
We are in the process of setting up exactly what you are looking for.
A pro hunting information machine
The website has not gone live yet, but in short we want to counter the tidal wave of anti hunting bull, with good facts and info on hunting.
We have had some real success so far with some of the info hitting 30 000 plus people in the first few days.
go on facebook and look up
www.facebook.com/huntersdoI hope to have the website live next week.
our goal is to become a PR machine for the pro hunting message.
Since we started we have reached 590 000 people and been on over 5 Million peoples facebook feeds.
That has taken very little effort but has shown just how much a single click on your behalf can do for the future of hunting.
Please do your part and share the message at least once every day. It really does work.
Specialist Outfitters and Big Game Hounds
An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill
16 September 2015, 23:36
Trophic-Hunterquote:
Originally posted by Bwana Bunduki:
quote:
Originally posted by Trophic-Hunter:
quote:
Originally posted by Fallow Buck: "the benefits of hunting to the general ecosystem"
"
the benefits of hunting to the general ecosystem" has actually
not been studied to any great extent, if at all - if you focus on the word
ecosystem.
The benefits to wildlife, to indigenous communities and to the economies of the SADC are all well-documented, but the
ecosystem benefits overall are not.
The benefits of hunting to ecosystems are best quantified by using the value of the
Ecosystem Services which the concession areas provide to the global community.
I calculated, (and presented at Ecosummit-2012), that the value of ecosystem services of the game-ranches of South Africa alone to be in excess of US$20billion/annum* - and those of the CBNRM areas of Namibia at about US$15billion/annum*.
The valuation of ecosystem services is, of course, still in its infancy - and
Payment for Ecosystem Services (PES) is far from being a reality, but any discussion of the value of hunting would be deficient without their inclusion.
*: I used De Groot's numbers (see below).
:: :: ::
Ecosystem Services: UNEP
Ecosystem Services: TEEBWEB
Ecosystem Services: IUCN
Ecosystem Services Valuation (De Groot et al. - 2012)<> <> <>
Sorry to disagree with you . But without the support of hunting, many ECOSYSTEMS would not even exist.
Jeff
Uhm ... sorry to disagree with you but we're not in disagreement ... (on what I wrote previously).

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17 September 2015, 02:32
jeff32CSF released a report on hunting and it's impact on the US economy. I haven't found anything similar for Africa.
http://www.sportsmenslink.org/...l_12_feb_low_res.pdf17 September 2015, 03:32
Trophic-Hunterquote:
Originally posted by jeff32:
CSF released a report on hunting and it's impact on the US economy. I haven't found anything similar for Africa.
http://www.sportsmenslink.org/...l_12_feb_low_res.pdf
The USA is a nation. Africa is a continent.
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22 September 2015, 17:51
Bwanamichquote:
Originally posted by Trophic-Hunter:
quote:
Originally posted by Fallow Buck: "the benefits of hunting to the general ecosystem"
"
the benefits of hunting to the general ecosystem" has actually
not been studied to any great extent, if at all - if you focus on the word
ecosystem.
The benefits to wildlife, to indigenous communities and to the economies of the SADC are all well-documented, but the
ecosystem benefits overall are not.
The benefits of hunting to ecosystems are best quantified by using the value of the
Ecosystem Services which the concession areas provide to the global community.
I calculated, (and presented at Ecosummit-2012), that the value of ecosystem services of the game-ranches of South Africa alone to be in excess of US$20billion/annum* - and those of the CBNRM areas of Namibia at about US$15billion/annum*.
The valuation of ecosystem services is, of course, still in its infancy - and
Payment for Ecosystem Services (PES) is far from being a reality, but any discussion of the value of hunting would be deficient without their inclusion.
*: I used De Groot's numbers (see below).
:: :: ::
Ecosystem Services: UNEP
Ecosystem Services: TEEBWEB
Ecosystem Services: IUCN
Ecosystem Services Valuation (De Groot et al. - 2012)<> <> <>

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