Sorry to post it here as well, but this an issue here in Spain and I want as much people as possible to know about it.

Renault, the French car manufacturer, and an important shareholder in Nissan, has recently launched a new advertising campaign in Spanish tv.

Such campaign is an outrage against hunters who are treated like assasins and compared to terrorists in an unjustifiable and utterly despising manner.

It is around 1.3 million hunters in Spain, and I only hope that we can, altogether with our friends and families, and all stakeholders in hunting as an industry, make Renault (and Nissan) pay hard for it.

A little international help would not do us any harm, so if anyone is willing to give a hand here, Renault's client servicing email address in Spain: contacto-cliente.esp@renault.es

The Renault manager responsible for this campaign is: arturo.salvan@renault.es

Montero

Montero: Maybe some of our French posters here can address this issue in Frnce. What is the exact nature of the advertising? We don't have Renaults over here but we do have Nissans. If you can get us an email that covers that, maybe we can also respond. jorge

The advertisement shows three "hunters" about to shoot-execute a merciless fawn using semi automatic shotguns.
The fawn has one of its legs caught by the steel teeth of a bear trap.
These "hunters" are attacked by some "heroes" who kick them in their backs and release and save the fawn.
Then they run away and are chased by a gang of terrorist-looking "hunters" that fire semi auto assault guns at the "heroes"...
The Reanult, being faster that the terrorist-hunterrs 4WD, manages to escape with the fawn, which turns into a white unicorn (?)
Montero

Isn't Renault a Frog company? The proper response to the ad is to buy a Ford.

I sent an e-mail to both contacto-cliente.esp@renault.es and arturo.salvan@renault.es .

I suggest that all of us do the same to let them get the message that such advertizments are completely unexceptable...

Don't forget that while this particular one was in Spain, advertizements are often copied by agencys to differant countrys. The US or England or wherever you might live could be next in line for such an anti-hunting propoganda film...

we can al hope that the frog will croak

Please follow EricD's lead. Emails should pour into Renault.

Look what just happened over the weekend in Jersey. Friday the NJSPA complained to KraftFoods about Roadkill Gummie animals. Today, Kraft waffled and pulled the product. Sad but true.

Jerry

My message is on its way!!

Is there a weblink to the commercial? I would like to see it before sending an email.

I will be composing a scathing reply in Spanish tonight from home.

DaimlerChrysler tried that shit here in the US with a Jeep commercial a year or two ago and the response from hunters and hunting organizations not only made national news, it also shut the ad campaign down.

A la batalla, companeros!!!!!!!!!!

quote:

Originally posted by montero:
semi auto assault guns

By definition, assault rifles are fully-automatic.

The semi-auto only version of a military rifle is NOT an assault weapon, regardless of what any laws say in Europe or the US.

Regardless of anyone's personal like or dislike for such types of rifles (and I am in the "like them" column), ALL of us shooters and hunters need to stand together because otherwise we will surely hang together.

Just remember, your scoped hunting rifle is but a direct descendent of a military "assault weapon", and one stroke of the pen away from being an "illegal sniper-type weapon".

Just wanted to be clear about that..........

quote:

Originally posted by huntingcat:
Isn't Renault a Frog company? The proper response to the ad is to buy a Ford.

Guess again, Huntingcat, Ford is partners with Renault, in owning Nissan! All you do by buying a Ford is give them more money to kill us with!

I knew having employees who spoke Spanish would help some day. Here is my reply:


Estimados señores:

Es de muy mal gusto su descripción comercial hacia los cazadores como "terroristas animales". ¿Ustedes comen carne? ¿Por qué? ¿Porque les gusta el sabor de la carne, no porque les debe gustar. ¿Por qué es el comer carne más aceptable moralmente para ustedes que la caza? Deducir que aquellos que eligen cazar lo que comen están cercanos a la definición de terroristas es ciertamente lamentable, en especial si se tiene en cuenta el número de cazadores que se cuentan en España. Ustedes no conseguirán alguno de mis negocios hasta que no se retire éste comercial del aire.


Respetuosamente

Dear all,

Here is a link to a Spanish newspaper that published the news that Renault's denigratory adverising campaign has been finally deleted due to the movilization of the Spanish hunters.

http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2005/04/12/comunicacion/1113308190.html

Better late than never, but the harm is done.

Best regards and my thanks to all that contributed.

Montero

I hope that they will not use the advertising in other EU countries

quote:

Originally posted by MacD37:

quote:

Originally posted by huntingcat:
Isn't Renault a Frog company? The proper response to the ad is to buy a Ford.

Guess again, Huntingcat, Ford is partners with Renault, in owning Nissan! All you do by buying a Ford is give them more money to kill us with!

Uh, No.

Ford isn't "partners" with Renault in owning Nissan.

Ford has been associated with Nissan in joint ventures previous in building like vehicles(Mercury mini-van/Nissan Quest), at the same assembly plant - not unlike GM/Toyota, Honda/Isuzu, etc. This happens all day, every day, with literally every manufacturer.

This is a couple of years old, but it is available on the internet....

http://subscribers.wardsauto.com/files/1004/2001Interrelationships.htm

FORD MOTOR CO. (U.S.) (includes Aston Martin, Jaguar, Land Rover, Volvo)

BMW During 2000, Ford bought the Land Rover subsidiary from BMW AG. BMW continues to supply engines and parts to Ford for Land/Range Rover vehicles. Malaysia's Associated Motor Industries Sdn. Bhd., 30% owned by Ford, assembles Ford, BMW, Rover and Suzuki vehicles.

DAIMLERCHRYSLER GM, Ford and DaimlerChrysler now have several co-research projects under the direction of USCAR. Among them are projects on auto emissions and environmental pollution, advanced battery and electric vehicle technology and structural plastics. Ford also has a memorandum of agreement with DaimlerChrysler and Ballard Power Systems to develop hydrogren-powered fuel cells. Ford holds 20% and DaimlerChrysler 15% of Ballard. Ford owns a majority of a company formed to develop electric drivetrain systems while Ballard and DaimlerChrysler will each own 19%. Ford and Ballard will own a minority share of DBB Fuel Cell Engines GmbH with DaimlerChrysler holding a minority stake. During 2000, DaimlerChrysler, Ford, GM, Nissan and Renault formed an e-business exchange named Covisint to facilitate component buying online.

FIAT The two companies' U.K. truckmaking and distribution subsidiaries were merged into a joint venture, Iveco Ford Truck Ltd. Each automaker owns 48%; the other 4% is held by a financial institution. Also, Ford and Fiat each own 23.6% of Van Doorne's Transmissie BV, the Dutch developer and maker of continuously variable transmissions. Ford supplies Fiat with CVTs from its Bordeaux, France, plant. Fiat holds 49% and Ford, 20%, of New Holland n.v. (formerly N.H. Geotech), a company formed in 1991 that combined the worldwide agricultural, industrial and earth-moving operations of Ford and Fiat. The rest of New Holland is publicly owned. Teksid, owned 66.5% by Fiat and 33.5% by Renault, supplies cylinder heads to Ford in North America.

FUJI Fuji sells Volvo cars in Japan, including the Netherlands-built Volvo S40.

GENERAL MOTORS GM, Ford and DaimlerChrysler now have several co-research projects under the direction of USCAR. Among them are projects on auto emissions and environmental pollution, advanced battery and electric vehicle technology and structural plastics. Ford and GM own a stake in Budget Rent-A-Car Systems in Australia. GM supplies automatic transmissions to Volvo. During 2000, DaimlerChrysler, Ford, GM, Nissan and Renault formed an e-business exchange named Covisint to facilitate component buying online.

KARMANN Karmann produces the convertible top for the Jaguar XK8.

MAZDA Ford owns 33.4% of Mazda, relying on it for engineering assistance, components and knock-down kits for assembly in overseas markets under Ford badges. Each builds vehicles for the other in various markets. Mazda and Ford share platforms and other parts, including engines and transmissions. The two companies will coordinate new product releases and will integrate all parts procurement by 2002. Mazda, Ford and Sanyo Electric Co. Ltd. have a joint venture for the production of car audio products in Malaysia. Ford and Mazda each hold 45.1% equity in Autorama Inc., the exclusive marketer of Ford products in Japan. Ford is supplying engine blocks made in Australia to Mazda in Japan. The two have a car-building joint venture in Flat Rock, Michigan, U.S.A., called AutoAlliance International Inc. Mazda and Ford have a joint venture in Thailand called AutoAlliance Thailand. The venture, which builds pickup trucks and passenger cars, is owned 48% by Ford, 45% by Mazda, 5% by Sokosol & Mazda and 5% by KPN, a local assembler. In addition to assembly, the venture produces stampings, chassis, paints and engines. Ford supplies Mazda with Fiesta-based vehicles in Europe badged as the 121 and sold by Mazda. Mazda supplies automatic transmissions to Ford. Ford and Mazda are collaborating on a variety of car programs, including an emerging markets car. The two have a vehicle-building joint venture in the Philippines. Mazda and Ford also are collaborating on engine development, including a new 4-cyl. that will be built worldwide in volumes of 2 million-2.4 million annually. Ford and Mazda build a small sport/utility vehicle (Ford Escape/Mazda Tribute) off a Mazda platform at plants in the U.S. and Japan. Mazda will use Ford's 3.0L engine for a sport/utility vehicle it developed with Ford. Mazda will build vehicles at Ford plants in Europe. During 1999, Ford announced it would discontinue rebadging Mazda vehicles under the Ford name for the Japanese market. Ford builds its Laser at Mazda's plant in Colombia. The two companies collaborate on Internet activity and have a technology alliance to develop fuel cells.

MG ROVER Malaysia's Associated Motor Industries Sdn. Bhd., 30% owned by Ford, assembles Ford, BMW, Rover and Suzuki vehicles.

MITSUBISHI Volvo will sell its 50% stake in NedCar to partner Mitsubishi in 2003 or 2004. Netherlands Car B.V. (NedCar) will build MMC and Volvo cars until then. Volvo builds MMC-designed engines. Mitsubishi supplies Volvo with direct-injection 1.8L GDI engines for its small cars built at NedCar. MMC will supply 75,000 engines until 2003. Mitsubishi subsidiary Mitsubishi Electric supplies car-navigation systems to Volvo.

NISSAN Ford and Nissan cooperate in a U.S. minivan program. Nissan engineered the vehicle, Ford assembles it (using components from both automakers), and each distribute it under its own brand (Nissan Quest/Mercury Villager). The JV is expected to end in 2002, when Nissan will build a new minivan at a new light-truck plant in Canton, Mississippi, U.S.A. Nissan subsidiary Nissan Auto Transport Co. Ltd. performs pre-delivery inspections of Ford vehicles imported into Japan. Nissan plans to adopt in-car communications services to be launched by Ford and Qualcomm Inc. called Wingcast. During 2000, DaimlerChrysler, Ford, GM, Nissan and Renault formed an e-business exchange named Covisint to facilitate component buying online.

PEUGEOT Ford and Peugeot are developing a small common-rail direct-injection diesel engine due to be produced in 2001. The engine will be developed at Peugeot's research center near Paris and built at the company's Douvrin, France, plant. In 1999, the two automakers extended the deal to include collaboration on diesel direct-injection engines for passenger cars and light-commercial vehicles. Projects include a family of small aluminum diesel engines, enchanced technology on a second generation of mid-size direct-injection engines, a family of Vee diesel engines for both companies' large vehicles and an extended range and new technology on a family of light-commercial vehicle engines. Peugeot over sees the small aluminum and mid-size direct-injection engines. Ford manages development of the large-car and light-commercial vehicle engines.

RENAULT Volvo and Renault supply engines to each other. Renault supplies transmissions for some of the cars built by Netherlands Car BV, Volvo's Dutch venture with Mitsubishi. Volvo supplies Renault with gearboxes. The two have a marketing arrangement. Teksid, owned 66.5% by Fiat and 33.4% by Renault, supplies cylinder heads to Ford. During 2000, DaimlerChrysler, Ford, GM, Nissan and Renault formed an e-business exchange named Covisint to facilitate component buying online.

STEYR Steyr supplies Ford's Rover unit with transfer gears for the Land Rover Freelander.

SUZUKI Taiwan's Ford Lio-Ho Motor Co. Ltd., owned 70% by Ford, makes and sells mini-trucks and mini-vans for Suzuki. Malaysia's Associated Motor Industries Sdn. Bhd., 30% owned by Ford, assembles Ford, BMW, Rover and Suzuki vehicles.

TWR TWR does styling and engineering work for Aston Martin and produces engines for the automaker. Volvo and TWR have a manufacturing joint venture in Uddevalla, Sweden. AutoNova, originally owned 51% by TWR and 49% by Volvo, produces Volvo vehicles at a rate of about 20,000 units per year. During 2000, Ford's Volvo bought an additional 26% of AutoNova and plans to buy the remaining 25% in 2003. The automaker now is completely responsible for the plant. Additionally, TWR designed and engineered several Volvo vehicles. TWR's Special Vehicle Operations (SVO) and TWR Design provide speciality trim packages for the Discovery.

VOLKSWAGEN During 1999, Ford sold its 50% stake in Portugal's AutoEuropa to VW. The former 50/50 Ford-VW joint-venture built multi-purpose vehicles (MPV) with VW, Ford and SEAT badges. VW continues to build the vehicles for the U.S. automaker. Volvo purchases 6-cyl. diesel engines from VW for its cars.

OTHER Ford owns a majority stake in its Indonesian distributor, PT Indonesia Republic Motor Co. During 1999, Ford signed an agreement to form a closed joint stock company to build vehicles in Russia with Bankers House-St. Petersburg. Production at Ford Vsevolozhsk is expected to begin in 2001. In 1999, Ford purchased a controlling stake in Pivco Industries, which makes Ford's TH!NK electric city car. Ford and India's Maruti Udyog Ltd. produce aluminum radiators together in India through a joint venture formed in 1991. The company was capitalized at US$30 million. Ford holds 56%, Maruti owns 39% and Sumitomo Corp. of Japan controls 5%. Ford owns 5.87% of India's Mahindra & Mahindra Ltd., which is building Escorts at its Nasik plant. A new facility was built in the southern state of Tamil Nadu. Ford owns 78% of the JV, Mahindra Ford India Ltd. Ford holds a 30% stake in China's Jiangling Motors Corp. Jiangling builds the Transit van. Ford holds 51% of Ford Union, a joint venture with the Belarus government and dealer Lada OMC to assemble Escorts and Transit vans in Obchuch, Belarus. Ford has a 41% stake in Turkey's Ford Otomotive Sanayi AS (Ford Otosan), formerly Otosan Otomobil Sanayi AS, which will open a new plant in 2001. The company builds Transit vans, Cargo trucks and Escort cars. Ford Otosan also builds 1.6L 4-cyl. to 6.0L 6-cyl. engines and the transmissions for the Ford Transit. Ford owns 75% of Ford Vietnam Ltd., with Song Cong Diesel Co. owning the rest. It builds Trader commercial trucks and Transit vans in Vietnam. The Sime Darby Group distributes Ford and Mazda cars in Malaysia. In China, Ford and Yuejin Motors plan to build 150,000 1.8L to 2.3L engines annually in a 50/50 joint venture in Nanjing. The two also formed a Technical Development Center. Associated Motors Industries of Malaysia in Kuala Lumpur produces the Ford Laser, Telstar, Econovan, Trader, Courier and Transit. The company is owned 30% by Ford and 70% by Tractors Malaysia. Malaysia's AMIM Holding Sdn Bhd assembles the Ford Escape. Lio Ho Assembly, owned 70% by Ford, 23% by Lio Ho Group and 7% by the public, builds Ford cars and trucks in Chung Li, Taiwan. The JV also has a plant to produce 1.3L to 2.0L 4-cyl. Zetec engines for Ford and 1.3L to 1.8L engines for Mazda. Ford and Mazda build cars and trucks in South Africa through South African Motor Corp. Ltd., Silverton, South Africa. The facility is owned 90% by Ford, and 10% by SAMCOR employees. Volvo Bus Corp. has a 50% stake in Israeli bus manufacturer Merkavim. Volvo and China National Heavy Truck Corp. in Jinan, China, have a tentative deal to produce heavy trucks together. Shanghai Automobile Industry (Group) Corp. plans to produce buses with Volvo in Shanghai. Thai-Swedish Assembly Co. Ltd., which is owned 56% by Volvo and 44% by Swedish Motor, assembles Volvo cars in Thailand. Ford is has a 50/50 joint venture with Chongqing Chang'an Automotive Co. to build passenger cars in China.



RENAULT During 1999, Renault purchased 36.8% of Nissan Motor and 22.5% of Nissan Diesel. In the future, Nissan has the option of buying a stake in Renault. The alliance is extensive and covers production, sales and distribution of both brands. The two companies will eventually develop a common line of platforms and engines and are expected to consolidate worldwide purchasing. Renault builds vehicles at Nissan's plants in Mexico. The French automaker will form a dealer network to sell imported and locally made vehicles by 2001. Some 50 dealerships are planned by 2003, with most being Nissan dealers. Full use will be made of Nissan's marketing operations by Renault. Renault and Nissan have combined their South American operations. The Japanese automaker will use Renault's plants and dealers. Renault's Brazilian plant will produce Nissan's Datsun pickup truck beginning in early 2002. The pickups will be sold in Brazil through Renault's sales network under the Nissan brand. Nissan and Renault set up a joint European marketing organization. The plan, implemented from July 2000 to the end of 2003, will affect seven countries including: France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Spain, Switzerland and the United Kingdom. It involves both Nissan and Renault's current European marketing organizations. Renault and Nissan have combined dealers in Europe. Renault will sell both brands in Germany, Switzerland and the Netherlands. About 70% of European dealers will sell both Renault and Nissan vehicles. Renault is transfering its Japanese regional headquarters to Tokyo and market its cars at Nissan's showrooms in Japan. Renault is investing US$38 million from 2000 to 2003 in the marketing network. During 2000, DaimlerChrysler, Ford, GM, Nissan and Renault formed an e-business exchange named Covisint to facilitate component buying online.


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