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06 November 2006, 13:07
LV EricWhy?
Do all the hunters wear their hunting cloths on the flight to Africa, I mean everything the boots, pants, hats, vests, gators, SCI membership lapel pins, manufactors patches stiched on their jackets etc.
I just dont get it your going on a plane ride for "ever" why wear hunting cloths? Your not going hunting for 2 more days. They arnt that comfortable to begine with and it just looks silly. I understand about being excited but honestly wear some Nike warm-ups and matching tennis shoes or something more comfortable and less conspicious. I wear the same thing comming home and the Fish and Game guys just let me through they hardly ever look at my guns etc, because I dont look the part, all gung ho. I look totally out of place, i dont get a hard time about being on ranches and spraying my shoes(what a joke) for hoof & mouth.
sorry about the spelling,
I missed that class.
06 November 2006, 13:41
WinkI travel in "well-dressed casual" and keep my problems with Customs, Immigration and security checks to a minimum. Better off looking like a "tired of travelling" businessman than anything else. I usually get waived through everything that isn't a required "stop and search".
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06 November 2006, 13:42
BOWHUNRI agree 100% Eric. There is nothing that looks more silly to me than the guys/gals that are totally "geared up" on the plane. I generally wear shorts, slip on Teva's and a nice comfortasble shirt, none of which are camo or all logoed up. The one guy that sticks out a couple of years ago was wearing his zip off pants, safari vest and a hat with, you guessed it, a zebra band.
Cheers,
Mike
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06 November 2006, 13:49
LV Erici dress in a velour jump suit-black. I believe i have used it on every trip. i look like a wanna be rapper on MTV, they dont know what to think and waive me through. my post wasnt to insult anyone but to give them a bit of insight, i see the "Hunters" get harassesd, so my point was to tone it down and things seem to go smoother.
The only time I got stopped I was with my mom (i miss her beyond words) and she looked like a hunter but she was 74 at the time and it was cute but it did raise all the flags coomming back into the states. I wish I could take her on another hunt, she was in the back of the truck with the gut bucket and couldnt get enough watching the guys drag the bait and splash the blood on the road, what a trooper. she never used sun screen and never burned-yes she was white. Amazing woman Saeed will Verify, and thank you again Saeed for everything.
I havent been around much lately but i'm comming back for a while, i'll make a thread in this forum with my story since it gets the most traffic. For those who are interested.
sorry about the spelling,
I missed that class.
06 November 2006, 13:52
LV Ericquote:
Originally posted by BOWHUNR:
I agree 100% Eric. There is nothing that looks more silly to me than the guys/gals that are totally "geared up" on the plane. I generally wear shorts, slip on Teva's and a nice comfortasble shirt, none of which are camo or all logoed up. The one guy that sticks out a couple of years ago was wearing his zip off pants, safari vest and a hat with, you guessed it, a zebra band.
Cheers,
Mike
you said sticks and I just got a visual of a green pea bringing his own shooting sticks on the flight, could you imagine?
sorry about the spelling,
I missed that class.
06 November 2006, 16:04
Die Ou JagterIt depends into which port of entry you fly. I use to use an alum gun case with all the pro hunting stickers and the normal reaction comming in to the states was "what were you hunting?" and a little banter show the proper paper work and on my way. Now I use a tuff pac and the last two trips since I have been using the TP I have been waved thru with my "Golf Clubs". I am happy either way.
06 November 2006, 16:05
ErikDLV Eric,
I couldn't agree more (although a black velour jump suit sounds like it would draw more attention than wanted?). I've have always made sure to travel with nondescript, casual, comfortable clothing that doesn't make me look like a hunter. Or anything else really for that matter.
These cloths are also good for the days I have often spent in town before/after hunting anyway.
What I have done on the way down though, after loosing some baggage on the way to Zim, is to keep a set of hunting clothing+boots in my carry-on. And the shoes I wear on the plane (which I take off anyway) are my back up hunting shoes.
I have yet to have a customs problem when flying to/from Africa.
06 November 2006, 16:06
lb404I guess that is one way of looking at it for sure. There are other perspectives that are just as logical.
square shooter
06 November 2006, 16:10
GrumulkinOne reason for wearing hunting items is to get around weight limitations in the luggage.
You can carry a lot in a safari style vest and boots weigh quite a bit. You can take them off in the plane to be more comfortable. Of course, I don't have patches, decals, etc. on anything and certainly don't wear camo.
06 November 2006, 16:21
ceweMy hunting clothes are comfortable so I usually were hunting pants and shoes on the trip -also minimizes my luggage. Since I´m always bugged by customs anyway it doesn´t really make any difference!
06 November 2006, 16:48
Mike_DettorreMe a pair of tan dockers a OD but stylish golf shirt...and go figure it is a back up pair of hunting clothes...
Black velour sweat suit...no comment
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1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
06 November 2006, 17:38
BigBulletEric,
You have some bling to go with that outfit? A big gold ERIC medallion around the neck? Talk about out of place. LMAO
I normally wear a basic business casual clothes just for traveling over and back in. Comfortable, yet doesn't offend anyone.
06 November 2006, 17:40
ErikDquote:
Originally posted by Mike_Dettorre:
Black velour sweat suit...no comment
Hey! Where's your sense of fashion? P.Diddy and his crew be wearing them all the time!
(No offence LV Eric, just fooling with you!)
06 November 2006, 18:58
500grainsI do not wear hunting clothes whever it is possible to wear normal clothes. Why attract attention?
06 November 2006, 19:03
NitroXWhy?
Probably the same reason some guys dress up as if they are going hunting when going to safari shows.
Myself I think it is better to blend in, and wear casual trousers and a work style shirt ususally not green, but both suitable as back-up clothing for hunting if the need arises.
I often do wear the heavier hunting boots to attempt to keep the weight in checked luggage down.
I don't travel first class so no velour for me!
06 November 2006, 19:08
WillIt's the fashion police, it's the fashion police, it's........
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06 November 2006, 19:11
GeorgeSI never have, and I never will. It marks you as a "cherry", or "rube".
George
06 November 2006, 19:26
Magnum Hunter1I try to dress fairly nice. Khaki pants, casual shirt. I don't wear tennis/athletic shoes nor warm up suits, pants with no belt or shoes that don't tie.
06 November 2006, 19:29
NitroXOn a similar note, when in the airport and going through "security" for an Indian domestic flight there was this Western tall guy, with military style haircut (short) all dressed up in green camo, big black military style boots (nicely polished too), had a green military style duffel bag, and when opened had lots of maps etc. All his gear was military style issue.
I thought he must be some soldier going somewhere. It turned out he was just a regular passenger (German) on holiday.
I think he had some serious issues ..........
(and what a good way to get a thorough going over in every airport one travels through
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06 November 2006, 19:31
NitroXquote:
Originally posted by Will:
It's the fashion police, it's the fashion police, it's........
Willy-boy, you can talk with all those sleeveless hunting shirts. I note it must be genetic too and runs in the family.
On a serious note, do the sleeves get in the way when shouldering your rifle?
06 November 2006, 20:55
G L KrauseI would say that any camo is out of the question, but since this is an African forum let me give this advice. I always wear an outfit that could at least function in the bush if everything is lost. Usually this means khaki "Columbia" style pants and a short sleeve cotton shirt along with a comfortable pair of hiking shoes. I came to this conclusion after my hunting buddy had all his luggage lost for 3 days on a hunt in Zambia with me last year. My clothes didn't fit him so he spents those 3 days in a fancy shirt and dress shoes. Pays to plan for the worse.
"I envy not him that eats better meat than I do; nor him that is richer, or that wears better clothes than I do; I envy him, and him only, that kills bigger deer than I do." Izaak Walton (modified)
06 November 2006, 21:06
GeorgeSSince someone brought it up, here is my usual travel outfit:
Notice the zebra stripe accents. And the green really sets off my hazel eyes (as well as smoke detectors in the bathrooms
).
No problems getting the flight attendants' attention when displaying such sartorial splendor!
George
06 November 2006, 22:01
MacD37I don't wear Camo clothing, simply because I don't own any! It has always been a bug in my bonnet, that some real good hunting cloths can only be bought in CAMMO coloration! The only place I've ever used any cammo clothing is in a duck/goose/bear blind, and that has usually been a camo cover-all,or rain gear, over my regular hunting cloths.
I worked for an airline for a long time, and as employees we had a dress code when traveling on our airline, and others as well. This served two purposes, #1 it was required, and #2 if the plane was crowded, and stand-bys were getting on, you would be up graded to first class, to make room for them,if you were dressed properly. Even today I usually wear a very light sport coat, shirt, and Dockers,with belt, and slip on loafers. In my carry on, I always have a pair of shorts, and my hunting shoes, Tooth brush, and shaveing gear, and a camera.
Still, I see nothing worng with a guy wearing, nice clean, and pressed hunting cloths, as long as they're not CAMMO! Today it seems cammo is seen mostly in one place, that is on kids, in the malls, with every exposed part of his body pierced, and covered with blood&guts tattoos, and pink hair! ........PUKE!
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06 November 2006, 22:05
<Hunter Formerly Known As Texas Hunter>George, your outfit takes the prize. As for me, I don't wear camo period - hunting or otherwise. I never have liked it. Plus, I don't get all duded up. I've been hunting all my life and most has been done in my old regular clothes. I do like the zip convertible long pants/shorts so that's what I travel in as shorts with a "T" shirt and tennis shoes I also use as camp shoes. I pack the bottom sections of the trousers in my back pack along with a sweatshirt, jacket and the remainder of a full change. Everything I wear traveling is used when hunting but none of it is specifically designed for hunting. Bottome line is I'm comfortable and look like a cheapskate with no sense of fashion. I do travel clean shaven and hygenic but I pretty much otherwise look like a bum.
06 November 2006, 22:09
PWN375So they will not look like chicks, black dudes or homosexuals when they travel. I would much rather wear safari kit than anything velour.
I wish the airlines still required a jacket and tie to board a plane. I get so tired of seeing dumbasses in shorts, sandals, baggy ass jeans, sweats, and warm-ups I could puke. Wear business casual or don't get on the damn plane.
Perry
06 November 2006, 22:17
Mickey1quote:
Originally posted by PWN375:
So they will not look like chicks, black dudes or homosexuals when they travel. I would much rather wear safari kit than anything velour.
I wish the airlines still required a jacket and tie to board a plane. I get so tired of seeing dumbasses in shorts, sandals, baggy ass jeans, sweats, and warm-ups I could puke. Wear business casual or don't get on the damn plane.
Perry
I always wear a tie and sport coat when travelling. The service is much better, never a customs problem and I frequently get bumped up a class.
06 November 2006, 22:23
DC300The one thing I think is smart is to wear your hunting boots simply because if your luggage is lost, delayed or stolen, you can buy or borrow clothes that will work just fine but it's pretty hard to buy a good pair of worn-in, blister-free boots anywhere in the world.
DC300
06 November 2006, 22:26
MyNameIsEarlNever been to Africa so can't answer that question. But I always wondered why people dress up in full camo, scentlocker everything, doe pee all over them and then sit in elevated box blind. Makes you wonder!
Maybe the animals have x-ray vision.
06 November 2006, 22:44
MJinesquote:
Originally posted by Hunter Formerly Known As Texas Hunter:
Plus, I don't get all duded up.
Say what? Just look at your avitar photo, reminds me of Harrison Ford in Raiders of the Lost Ark. I thought you were interviewing for a photo spread in the Tanzanian equivalent of GQ!
Mike
06 November 2006, 22:46
Pete Equote:
wear some Nike warm-ups and matching tennis shoes
Sorry, I'd rather look like a "hunter" than some Chave off a council estate in Essex!
Frankly I wouldn't even admit to having a black velour tracksuit, never mind wearing it in public!
Not sure what dressing like a hunter means anyway..if chino's and a shirt in sage or whatever means i dress like a hunter, I guess I do that most of the time esopecially in the summer..
Besides, as somebody already mentioned, if push comes to shove, I like to be able to use my travelling clothes to hunt in if for instance my bag doesn't turn up....
Regards,
Pete
06 November 2006, 23:26
Use Enough GunI always dress causal, but in clothes that I can use to hunt in if my bags don't arrive and I'm using a borrowed rifle from the PH. The most important thing is the shoes, as has been stated above.
06 November 2006, 23:35
Willquote:
Originally posted by NitroX:
quote:
Originally posted by Will:
It's the fashion police, it's the fashion police, it's........
Willy-boy, you can talk with all those sleeveless hunting shirts. I note it must be genetic too and runs in the family.
On a serious note, do the sleeves get in the way when shouldering your rifle?
Ha. I go sleeveless and wear shorts and Tevas because they are cooler.
Anyone can and should wear anything they want, even if they are a bunch of dorks.
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06 November 2006, 23:38
jorgeI'm sorry, but while I agree somewhat with your postulate one shouldn't look like a reject from a Stewart Granger movie, it goes for in SPADES not to look like an extra from the Sopranos with a velour jump suit.
I believe in traveling comfortable, but I find dressing in an undershirt, cut off jeans and jap-flaps while traveling rather plebean and shows a lack of personal standards, not to mention complete idiocy if they really new what burning jet fuel does to bare skin or for that matter, skin covered by a polyester velour getup.
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07 November 2006, 00:45
<Hunter Formerly Known As Texas Hunter>I can't believe I was stupid enough to submit a comment on this thread. But then again, I wear shorts on airplanes so that makes me a dumbass.
"So they will not look like chicks, black dudes or homosexuals ...Wear business casual or don't get on the damn plane."
How about Check your bigotry at the door or don't get on the plane?
07 November 2006, 01:12
MJinesNeeded those damn shorts on the KLM flight. Hell, I was darn near down to the boxers it was so hot on that flight.
I guess you are not going to mention that you won the Best Dressed Hunter in Camp Award at Usangu. I was so proud just to be able to call you my friend.
Mike
07 November 2006, 01:29
Dago RedWhy not put more in the subject line?
I can't imagine wearing my hunting boots through security, it'd take me longer to take my boots off and on than the whole rest of the security process combined. other than that the clothes I wear hunting aren't much different than my standard casual weekend clothes.
Red
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07 November 2006, 01:33
oupaLast trip I carried a plain looking aluminum diamond-plate gun case and for some reason three different people asked me "what instrument I play" Not sure what that was about.
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07 November 2006, 01:35
retreeverI wear comfortable khaki slacks and casual shirt...In fact no cammo for last too safaris...
Blended inn... No ugly American here...
Mike
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07 November 2006, 02:29
Michael RobinsonI have no problem with anyone who wears camo on an airplane.
But please, don't mix a Mossy Oak Break-Up shirt with Desert camo or Realtree Hardwoods trousers. That's a crime against nature . . . .
Mike
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07 November 2006, 02:29
Mickey1I guess the main point is to look like you have been on an airplane before and also been to Africa before.
I think the guys that wear Safari clothing while travelling are the same guys that wear Cowboy hats and Cowboy boots to the store. Even though they wouldn't know which end of a horse is the front.
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