Help with Elephant paperwork/importation

30 September 2015, 17:34

Austin Hunter

There is a resource with SCI or somewhere else that helps with this?

I have one coming in from RSA in November and want to make sure everything is 100%.

"Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" -- Ronald Reagan

"Ignorance of The People gives strength to totalitarians."

Want to make just about anything work better? Keep the government as far away from it as possible, then step back and behold the wonderment and goodness.

30 September 2015, 18:14

MJines

I would use someone like Well Worldwide (Lynette Lilly or Cindy Rulon) in Houston to handle the importation. They know what the paperwork needs to look like, work with US Customs, etc. When there were issues on importing crocodile from Mozambique they asked the outfitter I used to send pictures of the tags, etc. to confirm with US Customs that every aspect was correct before shipment.

30 September 2015, 19:08

Jan Dumon

good advise there from Mike.
Since the Cecil debacle things have changed slightly when exporting from South Africa.US fish and wildlife now also want to see the hunting register and paperwork on the South African side , not only the cites export permit. Make sure you , or your import agent , get copies from your Outfitter.

30 September 2015, 19:33

AilsaWheels

quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
I would use someone like Well Worldwide (Lynette Lilly or Cindy Rulon) in Houston to handle the importation. They know what the paperwork needs to look like, work with US Customs, etc. When there were issues on importing crocodile from Mozambique they asked the outfitter I used to send pictures of the tags, etc. to confirm with US Customs that every aspect was correct before shipment.

+1 on Well Worldwide and Cindi Rulon. Especially since you live so close.

01 October 2015, 00:48

Austin Hunter

Thanks!

What about Coppersmith? I've used them 3 times prior for plainsgame.

01 October 2015, 01:09

MJines

All I can say is that Well Worldwide, Cindy and Lynette, will deliver. That is not to say that Coppersmith will not but I have used Well on many occasions without an issue, including their proactive dealing with the Moz croc situation where they basically liaised between US Customs and the exporter in Moz to make sure everything was in perfect order before the shipment was released for transit.

01 October 2015, 01:49

bwanajay

Well Worldwide/Cindi or Lynette.

01 October 2015, 03:51

jdollar

quote:
Originally posted by AilsaWheels:
quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
I would use someone like Well Worldwide (Lynette Lilly or Cindy Rulon) in Houston to handle the importation. They know what the paperwork needs to look like, work with US Customs, etc. When there were issues on importing crocodile from Mozambique they asked the outfitter I used to send pictures of the tags, etc. to confirm with US Customs that every aspect was correct before shipment.

+1 on Well Worldwide and Cindi Rulon. Especially since you live so close.

01 October 2015, 05:57

nhoro

quote:
Originally posted by jdollar:
quote:
Originally posted by AilsaWheels:
quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
I would use someone like Well Worldwide (Lynette Lilly or Cindy Rulon) in Houston to handle the importation. They know what the paperwork needs to look like, work with US Customs, etc. When there were issues on importing crocodile from Mozambique they asked the outfitter I used to send pictures of the tags, etc. to confirm with US Customs that every aspect was correct before shipment.

+1 on Well Worldwide and Cindi Rulon. Especially since you live so close.

+2

+3 - After some very persistent, tactful but unsuccessful attempts to get USFWS in DC to contact Zimbabwe and confirm the original paperwork for my son's hippo had been lost by Delta and new documents should be generated, Cindi somehow convinced the Houston-based FWS to accept the photocopies of the paperwork today. I've used Well Worldwide every safari, and I make the shipping entity send copies of the paperwork to Cindi for her approval before anything gets shipped.

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Already I was beginning to fall into the African way of thinking: That if
you properly respect what you are after, and shoot it cleanly and on
the animal's terrain, if you imprison in your mind all the wonder of the
day from sky to smell to breeze to flowers—then you have not merely
killed an animal. You have lent immortality to a beast you have killed
because you loved him and wanted him forever so that you could always
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01 October 2015, 06:05

bwana cecil

I've used WELL on all 3 of my safaris.
Excellent job.

01 October 2015, 06:21

AilsaWheels

quote:
Originally posted by Austin Hunter:
Thanks!

What about Coppersmith? I've used them 3 times prior for plainsgame.

You can certainly use whoever you want. Coppersmith may be great. I don't see anyone posting ringing endorsements though.

An individual I have hunted with has shot over 200 species in the last five years. (Not animals, species. The number of animals is much higher) He runs it through Cindi at Well Worldwide. He is not even one of her top five customers. I say this to let you know she has seen most everything from most everywhere.

01 October 2015, 06:57

lavaca

Lynette at Well has handled all my trophy shipments including CITES permits, etc. They've always been flawless.

01 October 2015, 07:08

Austin Hunter

Wow - thanks!

01 October 2015, 20:36

JTEX

Another vote for Well Worldwide. Six trips no hiccups!

03 October 2015, 07:58

TrademarkTexan

quote:
Originally posted by Austin Hunter:
Thanks!

What about Coppersmith? I've used them 3 times prior for plainsgame.

A buddy nearly lost a Leopard because Coppersmith didn't catch a paperwork problem. I've used Well Worldwide on my last two trips and those folks are on top of things.

03 October 2015, 17:01

Jan Dumon

Maybe as important as your import agent on the US side , is the export people on this side. They need to be on top of things and know exactly what is expected on that side. When both sides are on top of their game , the risk is diminished that anything can go wrong , especially when dealing with Cites animals.