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29 March 2017, 00:36

captdavid

African Dangerous Game Cartridges

Is a book by Pierre van der Walt. I believe he's South African. What are your opinions him and/or his book? I find it very informative, but I have no experience with Dangerous Game. Thanks, captdavid

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29 March 2017, 01:25

AFRICAN LEADWOOD

I know Pierre fairly well although we aren't close friends. Pierre is in my opinion knowledgable and an entertaining writer with a sharp wit. I liked his book and wish the next would appear in print. Pierre is a no BS type of guy and generally has a firm opinion of things. It doesn't always win him friends but I would say that it won my respect for his approach.

Have Pierre autograh it for you if you buy the book.

29 March 2017, 01:46

captdavid

I wish he'd write one on plains game rifles.If you see him, please pass that on. Captdavid

"It's not how hard you hit 'em, it's where you hit 'em." The 30-06 will, with the right bullet, successfully take any game animal in North America up to 300yds. Get closer!

29 March 2017, 02:58

LR3

There is not perfect book but Pierre's is very good. Could have written more about big bores. Taylor is the classic but with a pinch of salt. Read Keith Robertson for buffalo and Sanchez Arino on elephant and big bores. I would suggest starting decision making with what you are going to hunt, terrain, and the " experience". An early decision is double vs bolt and that is influenced by terrain. I love my .577 (close heavy cover) and Gibbs .505 (open, longer shot out to 300yds and also for PG) but horses for courses. Also your tolerance for recoil. No good buying a big bore if you are scared of it or flinch.

29 March 2017, 03:27

Austin Hunter

I wouldn't shoot a big brown at 200+ yards with a 30-06. Maybe inside of a 100 and Phil Shoemaker recommends 220 gr 30-06 for that.

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29 March 2017, 05:06

billrquimby

"I wish he'd write one on plains game rifles.If you see him, please pass that on. Captdavid"

I've known Pierre since the early 1990s, and African Leadwood has described the guy I know and respect. Pierre started his "plains game" book soon after "Dangerous Game" was published. He checks this site infrequently, but I'll pass on the address to this thread in case he wants to comment.

Bill Quimby

29 March 2017, 06:21

MJines

Wonderful book . . . as a double rifle shooter this would be the last reloading book I would ever part with.

29 March 2017, 09:52

AFRICAN LEADWOOD

quote:
Originally posted by captdavid:
I wish he'd write one on plains game rifles.If you see him, please pass that on. Captdavid

I think the mid bores is close to done or quite far along.... I am looking forward to it too. I will be sure to share that.

29 March 2017, 10:03

cal pappas

Lots of historical stuff for us vintage users and lots of modern stuff for contemporary shooters. Highly recommended.
Cal

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29 March 2017, 10:21

jaegerfrank

Fantastic book. Must buy.

29 March 2017, 11:19

billrquimby

quote:
I think the mid bores is close to done or quite far along.... I am looking forward to it too. I will be sure to share that.

Pierre responded to my email tonight, and said the writing is done and he's working on page layouts.

Bill Quimby

29 March 2017, 13:33

Barry Groulx

Pierre van Der Walt is a gentleman in every sense of the word and an incredibly knowledgeable authority on firearms. Few people mention that he is the brains behind the .458 African, which is gaining ground especially in Zimbabwe. It's one of his hobbies: designing new calibers and I believe he has a few more like the African in his files.

The book is highly recommended, not only for the wealth of information it contains, but also for the first-rate presentation.

29 March 2017, 16:19

Labman

quote:
the brains behind the .458 African, which is gaining ground especially in Zimbabwe.

How about some details on this cartridge? What case is the base for this round?

29 March 2017, 16:49

Gert Odendaal

Pierre van der Walt is currently busy with a book on the medium-small calibers. He said it will be on the shelf in the near future , fiances to publish a book is a lot of money but he is working on it.

29 March 2017, 19:21

Russ Gould

I have a few copies of his big bore book in stock ..

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29 March 2017, 19:33

Duckear

I enjoyed his big bore book and will most definitely get his medium/small bore book as well!

29 March 2017, 23:00

shakari

It's a great book & PvdW is a great guy who REALLY does know his stuff.

30 March 2017, 03:32

drongo

A great book. I have read it through multiple times along with Kevin Robertson's Most Dangerous and Terry Wieland's Dangerous Game Rifles. Between them all everything is covered.

30 March 2017, 03:43

Rockdoc

Great book. It is also available electronically but the loading data can be a bit fuzzy.

01 April 2017, 00:14

Atkinson

Probably the best book Ive ever read, and also the best reloading book Ive ever read..He knows his stuff, writes well and a world of information..Well worth the price.

01 April 2017, 05:56

medved

quote:
Originally posted by shakari:
It's a great book & PvdW is a great guy who REALLY does know his stuff.

i didnt count but your pictures are in that book too ....

this is a very interesting book for sure.

02 April 2017, 11:03

shakari

quote:
Originally posted by medved:
quote:
Originally posted by shakari:
It's a great book & PvdW is a great guy who REALLY does know his stuff.

i didnt count but your pictures are in that book too ....

this is a very interesting book for sure.

Yup. I've read the book a number of times & still love it to bits.

02 April 2017, 18:46

dogcat

Ok, I will bite. Who has one for sale? Looked around briefly but could not find a reasonably priced copy. ( by reasonably price, I mean, not a scalper price)

Thanks!

02 April 2017, 19:08

MJines

quote:
Originally posted by dogcat:
Ok, I will bite. Who has one for sale? Looked around briefly but could not find a reasonably priced copy. ( by reasonably price, I mean, not a scalper price)

Thanks!

Contact Bob Harper with Outdoor Visions. He had a big stack of the books at DSC. Not sure what he has left but he was selling them for $39.95.

https://www.outdoorvisions.com....php?prod=1119201204

02 April 2017, 20:59

458Win

$40 for that book is a gift !

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02 April 2017, 21:54

Russ Gould

I also have "Hunting Africa - A Practical Guide" by 3 South African authors that is a very comprehensive complement to VD Walt's Big Bore book.

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03 April 2017, 01:25

dogcat

quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
quote:
Originally posted by dogcat:
Ok, I will bite. Who has one for sale? Looked around briefly but could not find a reasonably priced copy. ( by reasonably price, I mean, not a scalper price)

Thanks!

Thx, just ordered it!

Contact Bob Harper with Outdoor Visions. He had a big stack of the books at DSC. Not sure what he has left but he was selling them for $39.95.

https://www.outdoorvisions.com....php?prod=1119201204

03 April 2017, 02:56

Atkinson

Wow! Im pretty sure I paid over a $100 bucks for my book..

I love the above quote by Jim Corbett, more hunters should feel like he does, the element of danger adds zest to hunting, sharpens the senses, a full blown charge is the ultimate rush IMO, Ones reaction to it may or may not be the same in every instance. its likely to be a crapshoot with some folks.

Those that don't feel this phenominum don't need to hunt DG, the odds are not good for them.

Those that create such instances on purpose are apt to live a short life or be lucky as hell. I know one PH who is famous for creating charges for clients and I find this more than distasteful.

04 April 2017, 16:52

Barry Groulx

I will have to have a look around. African Hunter did a feature article on it about 3 years or so ago.

quote:
Originally posted by Labman:
quote:
the brains behind the .458 African, which is gaining ground especially in Zimbabwe.

How about some details on this cartridge? What case is the base for this round?

06 April 2017, 09:57

sandyhunter

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/.458_Express

06 April 2017, 16:06

Zephyr

The 458 African is a different animal from the 458 Express.
The parent case I believe is the 404 jeff and the OAL is 3.40 to fit in a standard action re-chambered 458 mag. there is also an extended version to 3.60. It will the reproduce 458 Lott or better

08 May 2017, 00:32

AFRICAN LEADWOOD

I've not gone back and checked if someone else posted, but I made an enquiry for someone and understand in the USA Pierre's book is available through Bob Harper at Outdoor Visions in Texas. Get hold of them if you are looking for it.