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How many rounds do you carry?
28 August 2005, 04:08
Bill/OregonHow many rounds do you carry?
When the truck cuts tracks or someone spots game and you pile out of the rig, how many rounds of ammo do you typically carry? I'm making up a shell carrier to go with my Ruger Tropical in .405, and was thinking five or six rounds easily available and a wallet of another five or six should be enough for hunt/stalk.
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28 August 2005, 04:14
Shumba3 in the magazine
8 to 9 in the buttstock shellholder
10 in a folding belt wallet
I guess that makes it 21 to 22 rounds.
Now, it is important to note that I always carry some number of solids. Both of my safaris have been in Chewore North and you could(will) run into elephant, buffalo, etc. while tracking something else.
Tim
28 August 2005, 04:18
BigBBearFor my 470 I carry two in the pipes, with two belt pouches that hold 5 each, solids and softs each side. With my 375, the same except that shellholders each hold 8 rounds. I always keep them around my waist so when it is time to go, the tracker hands me a rifle and we are off.
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28 August 2005, 04:26
H�ctor Carlos Roveda3 to 6 in the magazine, depending the rifle/caliber (for example: five in 6,5x54 Mannlincher Schoenauer 1903, etc, three in Mauser Magnum caliber's and -in extreme- six in my Brno .375 H&H)
10 in a folding belt wallet (leather)
Hector
28 August 2005, 04:32
baboonNo more then 10 total,any more usually pull my pants down!
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28 August 2005, 04:33
invader66Bill,
you said Tropical, Is this a #1? If so Cabelas has a web,leather that is nice. I know your Question was how many, a box. With a #1 you may need more fast.
Gene
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28 August 2005, 04:39
T.CarrFor buffalo and elephant, 4 in the magazine and 20 rounds on the belt in two 10 round Murray shell holders.
Plains game, 4 in the magazine and 10 rounds on the belt in a Murray shell holder.
Regards,
Terry
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28 August 2005, 04:44
DB BillOne in the chamber....3 in the magazine. On my belt I have a carrier that holds 10 -- 5 up and 5 down folded over.
I also have one of those ugly elastic things on my stock....if we're hunting buff I have a soft in the chamber and 3 solids in the magazine and the elastic thing has 4 or 5 extra solids in it (points up) for a quick reload if needed.
If we aren't hunting buff I put 2 softs in points down and 6 solids points up just in case we see a buff.
I wear suspenders when I hunt but still don't like to hang a lot on my belt.
DB Bill aka Bill George
28 August 2005, 04:54
jorgeDitto same gear setup as Terry. jorge
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28 August 2005, 05:20
retreeverI carry a magazine full and ten solids and two softs...while hunting buf and ele..my tracker carries another 10 solids and two softs..
Mike
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28 August 2005, 05:50
gas57Threee in the magazine with the other 17 in the box, in the backpack.
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28 August 2005, 06:24
Mike_Dettorrelets see...I carry a six ounce flask of irish whiskey and a shot is an 1 1/2 oz so that would make 4 shots...me and the PH...
I guess I carry two rounds...
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What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
28 August 2005, 06:30
WillTwo bandoliers crossed over my chest, each with 40 rounds.
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28 August 2005, 06:42
500grainscontents of the gun plus 10 rounds.
IF that is not enough, I deserve to go home empty handed.
28 August 2005, 06:59
goosejoe4 in the magazine and 8 or 9 in a buttstock shellholder, best thing I took, I have a folding wallet-type that I had on my belt, I wore it once and left it in the Landcruiser after that. This was for plainsgame. That buttstock shellholder was one piece of equipment I won't go back to Africa without.
Joe
28 August 2005, 07:07
PaladinMy #1 in .405 wears an Alaskan Guide sling with four extra rounds loaded with 400gr Woodleigh SP. I also have a leather belt slide from Cabela's with ten more of the same.
If that's not enough, it's time to go back to the truck. IMHO
Rick R
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28 August 2005, 07:13
Bill Cquote:
contents of the gun plus 10 rounds.
IF that is not enough, I deserve to go home empty handed.
Or in a wooden crate!
The last trip I carried 4+15 (10-solids and 5-softs, separated) in a WR belt using the same logic as above (that is, if I can't kill whatever with this may rounds, I deserve what's coming to me). If in a plainsgame area only, I'd carry less or give some to the tracker.
Somewhat related, does anybody else become fonder of the rounds once they have been on a trip or two, or do you guys prefer shiny-new cartridges each trip?
28 August 2005, 07:33
invader66
I still have 10 rds of 7.62 nato & a few 7.62X39I brought home from Nam. When I go to Africa I am planning on marking even the empty brass to never use again.
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28 August 2005, 08:02
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28 August 2005, 08:39
gunnyThree in the magazine and 18 in a custom shell belt givin to me in 1969 by a guy that I respect and made a promise to that I would wear it in Africa. He always wanted to go but never made it so I honor him ever time I put it on.
28 August 2005, 08:59
SlingsterUsually around 20 rounds total. Generally speaking, that means a full magazine, a second magazine's worth on my belt or on the buttstock, and the rest in plastic carriers in a pocket.
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28 August 2005, 09:55
Bill/OregonButtstock shellholders: Are these those black elastic thingies?
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28 August 2005, 10:16
Kyler HamannUsually around 20. Two 5 round covered leather holders (Galco, etc.), another 5 round pack in a pocket, contents of the gun and usually one or two in other pockets for slipping in the chamber (if I'm in a situation where it's carried empty).
I'm sure that's too many but it's horrible to run out. That happened a few times when I was a kid on wounded game. Then and there, I vowed never to run out again.
I have clients run out all the time, they can't comprehend ANY situation where they would need more than a couple.
Kyler
28 August 2005, 11:09
ErikDIn Chewore North this summer, I carried 5 solids in the rifle and 10 solids on my belt. I've usually carried the same amount for plainsgame on previous trips.
28 August 2005, 13:15
ceweWhat´s in the gun + nine on my belt.
When duckhunting I carry A LOT more
28 August 2005, 18:43
Widowmaker416Depending on the gun,
.270 6 in the gun, 9 on the stock, 10 on my belt
.416 4 in the gun 9 on the stock, 10 on my belt
And if that's not enough I'll just throw the damn gun at them, because I sure can't hit them with a bullet!!!
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28 August 2005, 19:38
MacD37quote:
Originally posted by 500grains:
contents of the gun plus 10 rounds.
IF that is not enough, I deserve to go home empty handed.
............Or in a box!
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28 August 2005, 19:44
MacD37quote:
Originally posted by Paladin:
my No1 in .405 wears an Alaskan Guide sling with four extra rounds loaded with 400gr Woodleigh SP. I also have a leather belt slide from Cabela's with ten more of the same.
If that's not enough, it's time to go back to the truck. IMHO
With a No1 teamed with a .405 win, you might need to shoot from the truck, with the engine running, so you can move faster than a pissed off Buffalo, while you reload!
Kidding asside, I use a a Trader Kieths heavy canvas culling belt for my 500/450 NE, and 470NE doubles along with a little gadgit called a "DOUBLE DUTY", made by GALCO ! The belt has 10 solids in the loops of the left side, plus the two solids in the DOUBLE DUTY, and with ten softpoints on the right side of the belt. The rifle carrys two in the tubes, with a soft in the right barrel, and a solid in the left barrel. So, all tolled that is 24 rounds total. That may seem like a lot of ammo, but when you get on tracks, it may take you a long way, and you might have to spend the night on the tracks. In that case I'd rather have my ammo with me!
The little DOUBLE DUTY holds two rounds, and when the flap is flipped open the two cartridge hendged case drops down letting two rounds slide out into the palm of my left hand, for immediate re-loading of the rifle, with out haveing to look all over the place to get two rounds out of a belt loop, and take my eyes off the target. This little thing is something everyone who hunts with a double rifle should own!
Tony, and others at the DRSS, like the butt stock cartridge carriers, but they don't work well, for me, with a double, because, #1 they make me have to reload with my right hand, if I use them. #2, the weight of the ammo used in a large bore double, effects the way my rifle regulates, in some cases!
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28 August 2005, 19:44
MARK H. YOUNGWill
I would of expected nothing less from you. Bandoliers!
Bill/Oregon
Yes! Buttstock shellholders are those elasic things. They can be had in leather if you like also. Very handy! Take 10 rounds total. These days most of us are not going to be trying to kill several bulls from a herd of elephant for ivory or a bunch buff for the meat trade. 10 is plenty.
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465H&HSince I don't want to go home in a box and I paid too much $$$$ to go home early or without, I carry lots of ammo. For DG either two in my double or five in my bolt and a 20 round Westley Richards culling belt. All solids except for the last one in the belt or in my pocket being a soft. Actually used the soft this year to take a buff that attacked a native boy. In the past I have used two 10 round elastic carriers on my pants belt. The WR culling belt I used this year was so much more comfortable that several times I forgot I had it on when I returned to the truck and only noticed in several hours later.
465H&H
28 August 2005, 20:43
Bill/OregonLots to think about fellas. Thanks.
Nice thing about the .405 is that it works well in a heavy Wolf Ears Canvas Mills-type built stitched for .40-70 Sharps Straight.
Mac: I know the No. 1 is controversial as a DG rifle, and that the .405 is on the lower edge of the power spectrum. But with a 400-grain Woodleigh loaded to 2050 or 2100, it seems like it would be adequate -- at least shooting at the cape buffalo photo target!
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28 August 2005, 21:22
hamdeniIn my 375 i carry 5 in the magazine and 10 in the buttstock shellholder and 5 on the belt.
Hamdeni
28 August 2005, 22:12
budman5For me it would be lucky 13 ...5 in the gun and 8 on the belt.
29 August 2005, 07:35
Atkinsongun loaded, 24 rounds in my belt when in DG country.. that also depends on what I am hunting...
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29 August 2005, 15:25
wimpieWhen hunting by myself: one in the chamber three in the mag and four on my sling.
When backing clients none in the chamber three in the mag and four on my sling.(I only shoot when the client ask me to do so)
I do not do dangerous game. That I leave to the experts with big guns and bank accounts.
Wimpie
29 August 2005, 19:03
WinkI wish I could remember where I read it, but I remember reading that 20 cartridges on your body somewhere was not to make up for all the lousy shooting. According to this unremembered author, it was to be used eventually to stave off predators from your kill, and this could require a lot of ammo since most would be "warning" shots at lions or hyenas. Anybody have any experience with this?
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29 August 2005, 19:13
safarimanI carry a magazine full plus five each solids and softs. Usually ask the tracker carry another 10 pack. I save empty cases and, when they can be found, the bullets recovered from game and mark them with a permanent ink marker. Cases and bullets from dangerous game hold places of great honor and prominence in my trophy room. They are good topics of interest and conversation to visitors.
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29 August 2005, 19:39
T.Carrquote:
Originally posted by Wink:
I wish I could remember where I read it, but I remember reading that 20 cartridges on your body somewhere was not to make up for all the lousy shooting. According to this unremembered author, it was to be used eventually to stave off predators from your kill, and this could require a lot of ammo since most would be "warning" shots at lions or hyenas. Anybody have any experience with this?
I carry 20 rounds plus a full magazine, not that I will need 24 rounds to kill an animal. I carry that much ammo in case of emergency. Might need several rounds for warning shots at elephant. Might need several rounds (plus a cigarette lighter or matches) if you end up having to spend the night in the bush. If you get separated from your hunting party, might need several rounds fired in the air to locate your hunting party. Might run into poachers who want to protect their booty. Not that I am going to get into a gun battle with poachers, but you never know. The game scout got lost (along with Jorge's wife and buddy) just this season. I think he said it took two hours to find them. So it can happen.
Regards,
Terry
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29 August 2005, 19:40
MacD37quote:
Originally posted by Bill/Oregon:
Mac: I know the No. 1 is controversial as a DG rifle, and that the .405 is on the lower edge of the power spectrum. But with a 400-grain Woodleigh loaded to 2050 or 2100, it seems like it would be adequate -- at least shooting at the cape buffalo photo target!
Bill, in the Ruger No1 the 405 makes sense, if loaded properly. Don't worry about the No1 being a single shot, just parctice so the you can reload quickly, and pick your shots for the first round. Many of the old timers used Single shots to do all their DG hunting. I had three double rifles, with three matching No1 rifles chambered for the same chamberings. I used the ammo worked up for the double in the scoped No1, for a shot where pin point accuracy was needed to thread a bullet through a hole in the Jesse. I carried my double, and a tracker carried the empty No1. Unfortunetly,a couple of years ago, I needed a lot of money in a hurry, and had to sell all three of these pairs, and I miss them a lot! They were my favorite rifles!
I've been thinking about buying one of the No1s chambered for 405, and simply running a chambering reamer in it to re-chamber to 450/400 3" which is a much better buffalo round, and with the rental reamer, and chambering, you can get by with about a $100 investment in the re-chamber job, to a real classic African single shot.
There is a S/S double rifle for sale right now, on the net, chambered for 405 Win, and it is a very nice double rifle! It is all I can do to keep my check book in my pocket, when I look at the pictures of it!
Good luck on your hunt!
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29 August 2005, 22:15
jorge[QUOTE]Originally posted by T.Carr:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Wink:
The game scout got lost (along with Jorge's wife and buddy) just this season. I think he said it took two hours to find them. Just to add to the justification of more ammo, there was a small group of elephants in the same area that we ran into and I was glad I had extra ammo jut in case. jorge.
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