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01 December 2013, 07:04
eagle27Oh Dear
On our national news at the moment:
There is disgust from animal welfare groups as a New Zealand millionaire becomes the latest to pose beside slaughtered African animals.
A US TV presenter was internationally criticised after posting a photo of herself with a shot and bloodied lion.
Now photos have also surfaced of property developer Mark Gunton standing over the corpse of an elephant and a crocodile.
Executive director of animal rights group SAFE Hans Kriek says African hunting trips have been available to rich tourists for several years now.
"It's a power thing. It's the same sort of people that like to dominate in their business, they like to dominate the animals and show they can shoot and kill an elephant.
"There's nothing in it. Anyone can shoot an elephant when you've got a gun and the elephant hasn't got a chance."
Mr Gunton is chairman of the New Zealand Retail Property Group.
01 December 2013, 07:38
jdollarso African safaris have only been available for a few years? i could have sworn it has been going on for over 100 years… someone with a brain needs to enlightened Hans.

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01 December 2013, 07:55
FjoldThey were previously only available to lower and middle class tourists. It's only in the last "several years" that the rich tourists were allowed to hunt in Africa.
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01 December 2013, 07:57
Saeedquote:
Originally posted by jdollar:
so African safaris have only been available for a few years? i could have sworn it has been going on for over 100 years… someone with a brain needs to enlightened Hans.
You are assuming good old Hans has any brains!

01 December 2013, 08:00
SteveGl"
corpse(?) of an elephant and a crocodile?" That's the secomnd time I've seen that word used this week (instead of carcass).
No such thing.
01 December 2013, 12:00
Andrew McLarenquote:
Originally posted by SteveGl:
"corpse(?) of an elephant and a crocodile?" That's the secomnd time I've seen that word used this week (instead of carcass).
No such thing.
Not so sure that you are entirely correct?

Ask anyone who has shot a baboon if he posed with the 'carcass', or with the 'body' or with the 'corpse'?

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Today I still hunt! 01 December 2013, 12:15
SaeedSounds just as silly as those who "harvest" animals!

01 December 2013, 12:18
LionHunterThese are the same informed folks who don't know the difference between an autopsy and a necropsy.
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01 December 2013, 16:03
mmassey338quote:
Beware of anyone who attributes human behavioral traits to animals
And also of anyone who anthropomorphizes.

01 December 2013, 16:27
bull1quote:
Originally posted by Fjold:
They were previously only available to lower and middle class tourists. It's only in the last "several years" that the rich tourists were allowed to hunt in Africa.
Wow, after five safaris and spending a ton of money, I've finally found out, I'm rich!

Bull1
01 December 2013, 20:04
Scriptusquote:
Originally posted by bull1:
quote:
Originally posted by Fjold:
They were previously only available to lower and middle class tourists. It's only in the last "several years" that the rich tourists were allowed to hunt in Africa.
Wow, after five safaris and spending a ton of money, I've finally found out, I'm rich!

Bull1
Were, surely? If you have not blown it all, you owe yourself another safari?

01 December 2013, 23:25
boarkillerWas the Neanderthal power hungry as well, when he chased the mammoth?
" Until the day breaks and the nights shadows flee away " Big ivory for my pillow and 2.5% of Neanderthal DNA flowing thru my veins.
When I'm ready to go, pack a bag of gunpowder up my ass and strike a fire to my pecker, until I squeal like a boar.
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02 December 2013, 00:57
SteveGlquote:
Originally posted by Andrew McLaren:
quote:
Originally posted by SteveGl:
"corpse(?) of an elephant and a crocodile?" That's the secomnd time I've seen that word used this week (instead of carcass).
No such thing.
Not so sure that you are entirely correct?

Ask anyone who has shot a baboon if he posed with the 'carcass', or with the 'body' or with the 'corpse'?
Carcass; the word corpse refers solely to humans, same as the word murder (and rape).
02 December 2013, 01:59
Bwana BundukiThis is awesome! I have been trying to convince my wife that I am rich and powerful!
Though the loin cloth was a bust...
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02 December 2013, 06:44
Jaco HumanThe one thing the greenies are good at, besides making me laugh, is to create hunam-like animals with feelings, family ties and human-like behaviour.
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