I needed someone to collect some guns for me and bring them to RSA tomorrow all expenses paid and I can't believe how tough it is to find someone.

I must have gone through most of my phone book to get a taker!!

K

Fallow,
Packing in someone's guns can be risky and potential land you in jail if the deal is not 100% transparent. I would not do it for someone that I know let along for someone I do not know. The issue is that guns are traceable and if I transport your guns, what am I doing? Trading in weapons of war or helping you? Why not go through the legal steps and make importation 100% legal?

It is difficult enough travelling with your own guns, there is no way in hell I would take anyone else.

From the USA, it shouldn't be a problem. How would anyone know they were not your guns? US Customs doesn't check guns going out of the country. Even if you wanted to, just take the other guys guns to US Customs office and get a 4457 for them if you are concerned.

Maybe from UAE or London it would be a problem, but from the USA, at first glance, I don't see an issue.

Hey K, check your PMs.

It's actually been a while back, but I took a gun that a PH had in the USA to Zimbabwe. The importation was done in his name, and the gun stayed there. They held it at customs so the PH could could come later and fill in the proper forms.

Wish I could help you Kiri, but I'm a bit tired of travel at the moment.

Too bad you are not from Arizona.
I work for a gunsmith and we have been to RSA hunting, he would undeerstand me calling in "Sick" for a few days.

Mark

If you are going to pay all of the expenses, why the hell not bring them yourself? Something is not right here. I don't think anyone here is stupid enough to to this. Well, I can think of a couple of posters on AR those IQ is the same number as the temperature here in Alaska.
Don't hold your breath for any takers. If you are searching the phone book at random, something stinks here.
Csl

Guys,

I should clarify before anyone gets het up about dodgy dealings as those that know me know I don't work that way.

A close friend stores his guns at a London gunmakers premises. I know the two shotguns personally. He went to collect the guns on Saturday and they were closed until Monday. His flight was that night.

I have already been in Africa for ten days so could not bring them myself and the cost of changing his flight ticket was a full loss on a 1st class ticket.

As such it was cheaper for him to donate flights to a friend to bring he guns out.

In he uk the law allows any shotgun certificate holder to possess those guns legally and as such travel with them. Another friend of ours who hunted with us last year and was saving to get back to Africa will collect the guns and put them on his certificate to travel LEGALLY with the firearms.

I was not looking for volunteers, simply pointing out that I didn't think I would need to go through twenty mates to find one that was free to leave at short notice, as at the time of posting you will note that I stated I had already found someone.

Strangely this is the second safari I have had available for last minute give away. The previous one was a fully paid forfeit due to last minute business

Sorry to disappoint anyone with sinister thoughts but the only outcome is that a friend who is a pensioner has the opportunity to hunt in Africa again some years before he would have been able to do so otherwise.

Rgds,
Kiri

Anyone who knows Kiri will know he's as straight as a die so no need to worry on that front.

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Originally posted by shakari:
Anyone who knows Kiri will know he's as straight as a die so no need to worry on that front.

I second that.

But, it is not Kiri's honesty that is in question here, but those idiots one encounters at airports worldwide when travelling with guns.

Thanks guys, I appreciate both your comments.

Our licensing system in the UK licences possession rather than ownership. Legal possession is actually the requirement to hand over the guns to customs rather than ownership.

Contrary to popular belief our licensing makes such matters quite straight forward. I am travelling through heathrow with firearms about ten times a year now and the biggest wait is for the customs agent to type in the gun details in e exit log.

Anyway it is warthog hunting day today, so I am off to see if I can add a couple of piggies to the wall!!!


K

Kiri
Got a friend in UK who will bring the guns for you.
Is the offer still open
Ian
Call me to discuss or I can get you his UK number

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quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:

quote:

Originally posted by shakari:
Anyone who knows Kiri will know he's as straight as a die so no need to worry on that front.

I second that.

But, it is not Kiri's honesty that is in question here, but those idiots one encounters at airports worldwide when travelling with guns.

Absolutely. I do not trust them and would expect trouble if I did not have a detailed paper trail on the guns and that everything was 100% legal in the eyes of all.

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:
But, it is not Kiri's honesty that is in question here, but those idiots one encounters at airports worldwide when travelling with guns.

True.