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19 January 2010, 14:29
BrettAKSCI
Hang on to your hats!!!!!
Tanzania Big Game Safaris posted photos from there 2009 season...... Eeker......holly crap......103lbs ele and a group of lions to die for.......Eeker.....and some "decent" buffalo as well!!!!!!!!

http://tanzaniabiggame.com/web...tent/trophy2009.html

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19 January 2010, 15:09
Will
Good grief! Didn't know there were that many big lion in all of Tanz. Smiler


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19 January 2010, 15:28
mboga biga bwana
WOW !!! Unbelivable Pics.

Tanzania is truly the prime hunting detination in ALL of Africa.

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19 January 2010, 15:34
A.Dahlgren
wow


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19 January 2010, 16:19
ivan carter
they are one of the outfitters that truly does it right raoul ramoni only takes a small percentage of lions that he has on quota and pays government for the rest out of pocket , he also only sells as many permits as he wants to take so everyone goes home with one ..

wish there were more outfitters with that level of integrity and foresight in this game , his camps and service are excellent aswel


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19 January 2010, 16:39
shakari
quote:
Originally posted by ivan carter:
wish there were more outfitters with that level of integrity and foresight in this game , his camps and service are excellent aswel


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19 January 2010, 16:51
daleW
Great photos.

Question: Which elephant was 103lbs? Was that the long straight tusk?


dale
19 January 2010, 16:52
JudgeG
quote:
Originally posted by ivan carter:
they are one of the outfitters that truly does it right raoul ramoni only takes a small percentage of lions that he has on quota and pays government for the rest out of pocket , he also only sells as many permits as he wants to take so everyone goes home with one ..

wish there were more outfitters with that level of integrity and foresight in this game , his camps and service are excellent aswel


We going to get one like the above? Please, please, please!


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19 January 2010, 17:08
ivan carter
of course Smiler


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19 January 2010, 17:14
BrettAKSCI
quote:
Originally posted by daleW:
Great photos.

Question: Which elephant was 103lbs? Was that the long straight tusk?


dale


Yeah. Go to the elephant photos and look at the captions at the bottom.

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19 January 2010, 17:58
butchloc
there is one awfully big leopard there. i didn't think they grew that big in tanz
19 January 2010, 18:13
mboga biga bwana
quote:
there is one awfully big leopard there. i didn't think they grew that big in tanz



Masai Leopards grow usally BIG

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19 January 2010, 18:34
Bill/Oregon
Wow, those are some gorgeous trophies!
Sounds like this fella truly is a class act.
Some of those buffalo are hard to believe.


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19 January 2010, 18:45
John S
I see my old friend/PH Johnny Yakas in several of those pic's...looks like he is still finding great trophies for his clients!
19 January 2010, 20:07
Equinsu Ocha
Some unreal trophies in that slide show..

That long, straight tusk(103lb'er) on that bull is just insane!

My dream safari for sure. EA ele, with all of the "glamour" PG.
19 January 2010, 20:19
Biebs
GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZ !!!
19 January 2010, 21:25
Gary Wattis
IIRC TBGS took 16 lions in 09.
2 from the Masai and 14 from their western areas.
You should see the pictures of the Lions that were turned down! There are plenty left!
The 103# weight was after 60 days drying time. They are booked on the Eles thru 2013.
My son and I are hunting with Johnny Yakas and Micheal Angelides July 1st for 28 days with Lions as #1 priority.
No Ele on license though! Damm
I talked to Orlando Cardosa in Dallas and he saw a honest 50 kg Ele in their Mlele area this year, there are still a few out there!
19 January 2010, 21:55
mboga biga bwana
quote:
My son and I are hunting with Johnny Yakas and Micheal Angelides July 1st for 28 days with Lions as #1 priority.


Gary

Which Area you will hunt.


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19 January 2010, 22:04
Gary Wattis
We will start in Masai East. Raoul said he was going to let Michael pick which camp in the west to hunt and was not sure yet which one we are hunting in.
19 January 2010, 22:15
Sevenxbjt
103lbs? Not bad work when you can get it.
19 January 2010, 23:11
mboga biga bwana
Raoul guided also a client in 2008 on a 95 Pounder !

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19 January 2010, 23:20
buckeyeshooter
Looked like great trophys all around, some of the buff where whoppers too!
19 January 2010, 23:59
Harris
WOW! That's a big pile of lions. Some exceptional trophies in there.


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20 January 2010, 00:09
eezridr
Maybe there is a reason they pay the BIG $$$ to hunt Tanzania. Those buffalo are something to behold! Pic #18 is whopper!
20 January 2010, 01:22
John S
IMO, there is NO other place in Africa that compares with Tanzania. Unfortunately, there is also no other place that compares regarding price!
20 January 2010, 01:41
BrettAKSCI
quote:
Originally posted by John S:
Unfortunately, there is also no other place that compares regarding price!


Botswana for lion if........Roll Eyes....I just looked at the trophies again this morning. They didn't get any smaller!!! Eeker

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May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep.
May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip.
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20 January 2010, 01:47
Nakihunter
Maaaan! Incredible trophies - all of them. I am amazed at even the lesser kudu - heavy horns with tight curls and 2 full spirals and out pointed ivory tips! I would love to have one of those on my wall, let alone all the others....sigh!


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20 January 2010, 02:34
Fjold
quote:
Originally posted by Nakihunter:
Maaaan! Incredible trophies - all of them. I am amazed at even the lesser kudu - heavy horns with tight curls and 2 full spirals and out pointed ivory tips! I would love to have one of those on my wall, let alone all the others....sigh!


Besides the DG, that lesser kudu and a couple of the Sable really floored me.


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20 January 2010, 03:01
John S
Brett,
Those Botswana lions were/are great but no better than what Tanzania offers. And when they were on license the cost of a hunt was totally insane. I'd love to have hunted for one in Botswana but Tanzania spoiled me. Cool
20 January 2010, 04:53
BrettAKSCI
John,

I totally agree! I just want to do a tracking hunt in the worst way!

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Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter
May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick.
And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too.
May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep.
May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip.
-Seth Peterson
20 January 2010, 05:32
jeff h
quote:
Originally posted by Will:
Good grief! Didn't know there were that many big lion in all of Tanz. Smiler


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20 January 2010, 05:55
Bill C
Yubby dibby dibby dibby dibby dibby dibby dum [sing it with me!] All day long, I'd biddy biddy bum.... Smiler

Awesome critters! I was sort of tired of buffalo, but loooking at some of those monsters I'm feeling the itch!
20 January 2010, 07:38
safari-lawyer
Makes me long for the good ol days (20 years ago) when my grandfather shot a huge lion in Western Tanz for $1500 per day. I'd love to know the all in price for 21 days for buff and both cats with these guys. $100k? $125k?


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20 January 2010, 12:30
BrettAKSCI
Will,

I spoke with Raul last year via cell phone when he was in town for SCI. His all in was around 120k. I want to say day fees where 58kish. TGT and FOA tend to run a little more. Pasanisi's TWS may be more too, but I'm not sure. TBGS is right in line price wise with Miombo, TAWCO, Samaras, Adam Clements, and Robin Hurt Safaris. As Ivan eluded to they buy their whole quota up front and only use part of it. They also ONLY sell 21 day hunts. As a rersult their quota usage is minimal and they have excellent trophy quality. The 120k price was all in on an average 21 day two area general bag safari while taking 20-25 animals on average. That's from Raul.

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Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter
May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick.
And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too.
May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep.
May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip.
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20 January 2010, 12:50
Equinsu Ocha
If I had the expendable cash to do so, I'd do it in a heartbeat..
I sure wish 220K would fall in my lap and the only catch is that I had to spend it on hunting! I'd have it gone in 3 hunts.. This 21 day full bag in Tanz, then onto a High Altai Argali in Mongolia, and if I have enough left over, a Desert Bighorn hunt in either Sonora or Baja!