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10 December 2016, 19:44
Buzz Charlton
CMS 4th and FINAL DVD QUESTION
Folks my 4th and final dvd is complete and it is time for burning. Safari Press will be marketing it however when I last spoke to Ludo he was not interested in the Blue Ray version. It was my impression that in this day and age that is now standard- thoughts please before they go off to be burnt? Thanks!
10 December 2016, 21:21
larryshores
Blue ray is better but more expensive as I understand it.
10 December 2016, 21:28
Marty
I think that's bizarre. Everything is high def, moving toward 4K.
10 December 2016, 21:49
GunsCore
With digital downloading, both standard and Blue Ray DVDs will soon be obsolete anyway. Ludo probably doesn't want to invest too much in a dying technology.

Your final DVD?! I heard that before! What's the title on this one?


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10 December 2016, 22:04
Slider
Standard HD is fine. I wouldn't pay additional money for a Blu-Ray hunting Video.
10 December 2016, 22:07
Skip Nantz
Looking forward to it...

4k...now. Hopefully, we can buy a download so we can take it everywhere we go!! :-)


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10 December 2016, 22:23
Saeed
quote:
Originally posted by Slider:
Standard HD is fine. I wouldn't pay additional money for a Blu-Ray hunting Video.


You cannot have HD on DVDs.

They invented BD for HD, and now that supports 4K too.

Setting up a download server is not easy, and the data stream is relatively expensive. Not sure at the rate of who wants to buy it can justify the expense.

It really is a shame producing anything in DVD format today, as the quality is so inferior to HD.


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10 December 2016, 23:23
tomahawker
I don't have Blu ray nor does anyone I know.
10 December 2016, 23:45
Marty
Can you even buy a non blu ray player any more?
11 December 2016, 01:43
Wesheltonj
Thank goodness for backwards compatibility, Blu-ray will give you a better picture and will support 5.1, 7.1 sound. Now 4K is coming out. The problem is technology is racing ahead and the investment is sometimes hard to justify.
11 December 2016, 01:52
nickh
Blue ray is far superior in quality to standard DVD. I understand there may be a cost to it , but I sure would pay for it.

Nick
11 December 2016, 02:03
Poyntman
Everyone has BluRay now....but BluRay players play DVDs
A big piece is what level the film and production is and was.
BluRay is more expensive, yes. But if the material wasn't filmed where BluRay would even make a discernible difference then it would be for nothing...
11 December 2016, 07:16
Saeed
Blue Ray players are extremely cheap now, and have the ability top stream media too.

We have an old flat panel TV in our loading room mounted on the wall.

It does not stream anything, and we have a small Sony Blue Ray player connected to it.

This one has a USB input, in which we can plug any USB storage device, and play it through on the TV.

Very neat.

I am certain that Buzz videos are taken in at least Full 1080p HD format, or may be even 4K.

How they output them is of course their choice.


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11 December 2016, 09:07
Cougarz
Well like someone mentioned earlier I don't have blue ray and don't know anyone who does.

Yes I'm sure I'm backwards and missing something but as long as I can get DVD's I'm happy. hilbily

But I certainly am looking forward to your next video! tu2


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12 December 2016, 06:46
Nakihunter
Buzz

I wonder if you would sell more DVDs or downloads from website etc???

As others have stated, DVD technology is becoming obsolete.

Most people who want to pay for this stuff would probably download from the web.

The only major market for DVD IMHO are gifts!

I think it might be worthwhile to discuss with someone more tech savvy and find a longer term solution.

Wish you all the best.


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12 December 2016, 07:42
llamapacker
While I understand conceptually that DVD technology may soon be "obsolete", I also don't have or even know anyone who owns a Blue ray player.
There are technology "geeks" in any group, but I suspect hunters may have a smaller percentage of these geeks than many other groups. And outside the US, I suspect DVD technology will be here for quite some time. While the purists will always be willing to pay more for the latest technology, the vast majority will find DVD quality acceptable.

Perhaps I don't know what I am missing (probably true), but as I am not a movie lover, I am perfectly content to watch videos such as Buzz's on DVD. I watch these to learn, and enjoy the hunts of others, not to critique the film making.

While it is always nice to sell a product at the highest quality level available, you really need to do the economic analysis. If only 10% of sales are Blue ray, is it worth the added investment?

Looking forward to the latest video, which I will watch in DVD format.

Cheers,

Bill
12 December 2016, 08:04
SBT
If you sell one to Bill, ask for cash.


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12 December 2016, 08:13
llamapacker
SBT - I see you have nothing positive to add to this thread, either. But perhaps you have stopped poaching long enough to sit in front of a computer. Pathetic.
Bill
12 December 2016, 16:22
JabaliHunter
Would it be much more costly to offer both in the same pack?

Or to offer it in DVD (if thats what the distributor wants) with an option for purchasers to get in contact directly for an upgrade to BluRay at cost + postage?
12 December 2016, 16:23
JabaliHunter
Anyway, when can we start to place orders? tu2
12 December 2016, 17:31
Saeed
There is no in hell that I would buy a DVD in standard resolution in this day and age!


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13 December 2016, 04:33
Johnny reb
Blu Ray players can be had for as low as $30.00 big difference In picture quality
13 December 2016, 04:39
MJines
quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
There is no in hell that I would buy a DVD in standard resolution in this day and age!


When the filming is being done in HD, to not be able to watch the footage in HD via Blu-Ray is a really pity. Particularly nature-related shows. The difference between standard definition and high definition in terms of the viewing experience is incredibly stark. Particularly when a Blu-Ray player can be had for $30-40 which in many cases is the cost of the DVD.


Mike
13 December 2016, 05:24
MacD37
quote:
Originally posted by Johnny reb:
Blu Ray players can be had for as low as $30.00 big difference In picture quality


...............and your old DVDS will play on a blue ray player, so you loose nothing but about $30 and can watch either format!

.......................Best of both worlds for $30! That's a no brainer!

.....................................................................
tu2


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13 December 2016, 07:46
Bill C
Well at least Ludo didn't try to talk you into VHS.

IIRC, DVD is 480 whereas BlueRay is true HD at 1080p (1920x1080 resolution). The larger the screen and/or the closer you are, the more noticeable the difference in quality will be. The newer DVD players and some TV's do/did upscaling whereby they enhanced the standard 480 so it looked more like 720 or better, but quality was dependent on the player.

If you have HD quality video, I'd focus on BlueRay. Why do this using already obsolete technology...realizing that in a few years DVD will be that much more obsolete.

Just hopefully you don't have too many closeups of the stars of this video! Big Grin
13 December 2016, 12:33
Saeed
quote:
Originally posted by Bill C:
Well at least Ludo didn't try to talk you into VHS.

IIRC, DVD is 480 whereas BlueRay is true HD at 1080p (1920x1080 resolution). The larger the screen and/or the closer you are, the more noticeable the difference in quality will be. The newer DVD players and some TV's do/did upscaling whereby they enhanced the standard 480 so it looked more like 720 or better, but quality was dependent on the player.

If you have HD quality video, I'd focus on BlueRay. Why do this using already obsolete technology...realizing that in a few years DVD will be that much more obsolete.

Just hopefully you don't have too many closeups of the stars of this video! Big Grin


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13 December 2016, 13:48
JabaliHunter
I'm still waiting for my old Sony trinitron to break, but it never does despite moving house at least 4 times since I bought it 2nd hand off a friend in about 1998. So no 1080HD ready TV here, let alone 4K. I suppose I could replace my DVD player with a cheap bluray player, but haven't felt the need so far. As far as I can see, amazon still sells way more DVDs than bluray. I don't know anyone with a bluray player. Maybe when I buy a flatscreen tv...
13 December 2016, 15:51
Marty
Maybe Edison cylinder is an option.
13 December 2016, 19:18
Tim Vining
I am fairly illiterate on the blue ray/dvd and streaming issue. I do appreciate a lot of the comments here that help explain the difference and what is available. This old dog has a hard time learning new tricks


Tim

13 December 2016, 23:50
subsailor74
Buzz - a lot of us old farts do not yet have Blue Ray players as our DVD players still work. DVDs play on Blue Ray players but not vice versa. My guess is that most of your clients are madala like me who don't see that much difference in a hunting video between blue ray and dvd - food for thought.
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14 December 2016, 01:26
Marty
As a madala who is also cheap, I would submit that by not buying a Blu Ray player, which can be had sub $50, one is being penny wise and pound foolish.
Besides picture quality that is markedly improved, the sound quality is better as well. I have had my safari videos in both formats, upgrading to Blu Ray in 2013. There's no going back.
You can upgrade on the cheap, and all your DVDs will play as well.
14 December 2016, 02:54
MJines
Just an example . . . if you have been watching sports, football, baseball, golf, in HD, go back and watch in standard definition . . . it is like watching something with a bad eyeglasses prescription. Big Grin


Mike
14 December 2016, 07:41
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14 December 2016, 13:56
JabaliHunter
Ok, so I should buy a BuRay player (which will still play/upscale my DVDs), but will I actually see a difference on my non-HD TV screen?
14 December 2016, 15:36
Saeed
No you won't.

But, frankly, if you are still using a standard resolution TV, you missing an awful lot of viewing pleasure.


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14 December 2016, 16:43
Marty
It won't upgrade to color, either.
14 December 2016, 17:36
Saeed
quote:
Originally posted by Marty:
It won't upgrade to color, either.


Holy macaroni!

Are you using stones to hunt which? clap


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14 December 2016, 19:13
Marty
I think talking pictures are just a passing fancy as well.