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What is deadlier cape buffalo, water buffalo, or bison?
25 March 2013, 12:52
steelWhat is deadlier cape buffalo, water buffalo, or bison?
I know the cape is know for it aggression so its probably number one but how do you guys rate the three. The cape buffalo has lions preying on them, while the water buffalo has the tiger and bison has the wolves. The bison and water buffalo is bigger. They have all injured people. So what do you guys think?
25 March 2013, 13:07
SaeedThe one that gets to you.
As long as you keep them off your skin, none of them is dangerous.
25 March 2013, 13:32
shakariquote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
The one that gets to you.
As long as you keep them off your skin, none of them is dangerous.
Took the words right out my mouth.
25 March 2013, 13:47
Neil-PHAsk a dumb question................
25 March 2013, 14:33
BenKKProbably ours, because they are constantly on the look-out for attacking wallabies trying to prey on them. It is a well-known fact that one wallaby can kill a full-grown buffalo bull with a swipe of its tail.
25 March 2013, 14:46
338UserNot to mention the carnivorous Kangaroo!
25 March 2013, 15:15
Bren7X64quote:
Originally posted by BenKK:
Probably ours, because they are constantly on the look-out for attacking wallabies trying to prey on them. It is a well-known fact that one wallaby can kill a full-grown buffalo bull with a swipe of its tail.
Actually - I've seen them cowering away from teh drop bears.
Not to mention keeping an eye out for the spiders.
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25 March 2013, 16:19
GrenadierIf a water buffalo backs you into thick eucalyptus and you don't have your rifle - will a didgeri do?
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25 March 2013, 16:35
BenKKquote:
Originally posted by Grenadier:
If a water buffalo backs you into thick eucalyptus and you don't have your rifle - will a didgeri do?
Yes, certainly, Grenadier. But only if you blow the right note, a secret monolithic flat-nosed note developed in the recording studios of Woodleigh, CEB, North Fork, et al.
25 March 2013, 16:39
Matt Grahamquote:
Originally posted by Bren7X64:
quote:
Originally posted by BenKK:
Probably ours, because they are constantly on the look-out for attacking wallabies trying to prey on them. It is a well-known fact that one wallaby can kill a full-grown buffalo bull with a swipe of its tail.
Actually - I've seen them cowering away from teh drop bears.
Not to mention keeping an eye out for the spiders.
No drop bears were we hunt the buffalo - the hoop snakes killed them all. Deadly bastards!!
quote:
Originally posted by Grenadier:
- will a didgeri do?
humm ummm ummmaybe it'll have to!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im6VEJKd1aA26 March 2013, 00:34
butchlocwomen are #1 on the list
the rest are only dangerous one at a time and in their territory.
26 March 2013, 01:01
Use Enough Gun
I've killed a number of cape buffalo and killed but one bison. I have not killed a water buff yet, but in any event, I have never experienced any problems with the first two species. Did kill the bison with a black powder rifle, the buff with bolt actions and double rifles. And, I've been married to the number 1 dangerous game for 39 years and have survived numerous encounters.
26 March 2013, 01:06
Scriptusquote:
Originally posted by butchloc:
women are #1 on the list
the rest are only dangerous one at a time and in their territory.
Oh yeah!! So where is your poor bloody dog sleeping tonight?
26 March 2013, 01:08
shakariThe big difference between a buffalo & a bison is you can't wash your hands in a buffalo!
26 March 2013, 01:09
Use Enough GunOr sleep inside one during a windy snow laden blizzard!
26 March 2013, 01:13
Scriptusquote:
Originally posted by shakari:
The big difference between a buffalo & a bison is you can't wash your hands in a buffalo!
And I suppose you use sipe to wash in your bisen?
26 March 2013, 01:20
Todd WilliamsHell, just snipe them from 100 yards or more with a scoped 375. That's your best bet anyway according to most here. That 100 yards will give you a good head start back to the truck should they take an interest in ya for poking a hole in em with a rat caliber gun!
26 March 2013, 01:40
Michael RobinsonAll I know is that I'd want a big bore rifle in my hands if there was any chance that I might bump into any of them!
Mike
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26 March 2013, 02:18
shakariquote:
Originally posted by Michael Robinson:
All I know is that I'd want a big bore rifle in my hands if there was any chance that I might bump into any of them!
Nah....... those wash hand bisons just shatter into hundreds of little pieces when hit with even a .22.
26 March 2013, 03:23
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26 March 2013, 07:12
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26 March 2013, 07:58
NavalukEach is farmed so how dangerous can they be. They are really only dangerous to the incompetent or the criminally unlucky.
26 March 2013, 08:25
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26 March 2013, 08:56
NakihunterI'll be a sucker and answer this seriously!
Firstly the water buffalo of Australia is NOT a wild animal at all but a domestic animal gone feral. This does not mean that it is not good hunting or of good trophy qulaity. It is a feral animal - period.
This is a MAJOR disctinction as the WILD Buffalo of India & Bhutan is a differnt animal - it stands 6 foot 6 inches at the hump. It is extremely agressive and an adult tiger has little chance against an adult bull.
Wild buffalo are known to charge riding elephants in the Kaziranga national park. Forest department staff are known to be killed regularly.
Comparing it with a cape buffalo is a pointless exercise but enough to say that both are dangerous animals that can kill you.
The bison and the gaur are not really dangerous game though they might have been know to kill the odd person.
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26 March 2013, 10:26
Blacktailerquote:
The bison and the gaur are not really dangerous game though they might have been know to kill the odd person.
We could do with a few less odd persons anyway,
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26 March 2013, 10:33
Matt Grahamquote:
Originally posted by Nakihunter:
I'll be a sucker and answer this seriously!
Firstly the water buffalo of Australia is NOT a wild animal at all but a domestic animal gone feral. This does not mean that it is not good hunting or of good trophy qulaity. It is a feral animal - period.
This is a MAJOR disctinction as the WILD Buffalo of India & Bhutan is a differnt animal - it stands 6 foot 6 inches at the hump. It is extremely agressive and an adult tiger has little chance against an adult bull.
Wild buffalo are known to charge riding elephants in the Kaziranga national park. Forest department staff are known to be killed regularly.
Comparing it with a cape buffalo is a pointless exercise but enough to say that both are dangerous animals that can kill you.
The bison and the gaur are not really dangerous game though they might have been know to kill the odd person.
JMTBW
You are a complete dill .... are you seriously suggesting that a herd of animals that has been running around in the wilds of Australia for 170-odd years ... isn't a wild animal??
Banteng in Australia are feral animals as well - by definition. Are they not wild either?? Feral of course is an animal that has gone WILD!!!
You need to get a bit more real hunting experience/knowledge under your belt before you can make any claim... to anything.
26 March 2013, 10:33
eagle27quote:
Originally posted by BenKK:
Probably ours, because they are constantly on the look-out for attacking wallabies trying to prey on them. It is a well-known fact that one wallaby can kill a full-grown buffalo bull with a swipe of its tail.
I didn't think there were any attacking wallabies left now, they are all too busy running from the All Blacks
26 March 2013, 12:33
shakariquote:
Originally posted by Blacktailer:
quote:
The bison and the gaur are not really dangerous game though they might have been know to kill the odd person.
We could do with a few less odd persons anyway,
26 March 2013, 13:22
Saeedquote:
Originally posted by Matt Graham:
quote:
Originally posted by Nakihunter:
I'll be a sucker and answer this seriously!
Firstly the water buffalo of Australia is NOT a wild animal at all but a domestic animal gone feral. This does not mean that it is not good hunting or of good trophy qulaity. It is a feral animal - period.
This is a MAJOR disctinction as the WILD Buffalo of India & Bhutan is a differnt animal - it stands 6 foot 6 inches at the hump. It is extremely agressive and an adult tiger has little chance against an adult bull.
Wild buffalo are known to charge riding elephants in the Kaziranga national park. Forest department staff are known to be killed regularly.
Comparing it with a cape buffalo is a pointless exercise but enough to say that both are dangerous animals that can kill you.
The bison and the gaur are not really dangerous game though they might have been know to kill the odd person.
JMTBW
You are a complete dill .... are you seriously suggesting that a herd of animals that has been running around in the wilds of Australia for 170-odd years ... isn't a wild animal??
Banteng in Australia are feral animals as well - by definition. Are they not wild either?? Feral of course is an animal that has gone WILD!!!
You need to get a bit more real hunting experience/knowledge under your belt before you can make any claim... to anything.
Come on Matt, nothing that lives Down Under is considered normal.
That goes for teh 2-legged animals too
26 March 2013, 13:45
BakesHEY I resemble that
A good mate of mine and a former guide used to rate the scrub bull as being a bit more dangerous than a water buff. I think treat them all with respect and you'll be ok.
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26 March 2013, 13:54
steelI guess this thread really took off in a different direction. But I am married to a redhead so i guess I already got the most dangerous beast at home.
26 March 2013, 16:08
someoldguyquote:
Originally posted by steel:
I guess this thread really took off in a different direction. But I am married to a redhead so i guess I already got the most dangerous beast at home.
Some days I think we're all just a bunch of out-of-work comedians here.
Seriously, I think you wanted to know which of those three animals you mentioned is most likely to be most aggressive or downright mean towards humans. Except for redheads, which I can verify is the most dangerous of all.
I'm certain we all know there aren't degrees of deadly, there's just dead.
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26 March 2013, 23:02
MacD37quote:
Originally posted by steel:
I know the cape is know for it aggression so its probably number one but how do you guys rate the three. The cape buffalo has lions preying on them, while the water buffalo has the tiger and bison has the wolves. The bison and water buffalo is bigger. They have all injured people. So what do you guys think?
quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
The one that gets to you.
As long as you keep them off your skin, none of them is dangerous.
quote:
Originally posted by shakari:
quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
The one that gets to you.
As long as you keep them off your skin, none of them is dangerous.
Took the words right out my mouth.
The first three posts in this thread should have ended it right there, yet there 34 posts most making a joke out of the question. That is par for the course, because it is human nature to make fun of naivety. However it was a serious question for the first poster, even though some of the comments made me spew coffee all over my keyboard.
To answer his post, my opinion is, any of those listed animals will gladly kill you if you punch holes in him and not kill him, or if you get too close and surprise him! The fix is to make the first shot properly, and if it doesn’t put him down keep shooting till he IS down or out of sight. This is not the time to let your ego get the best of you, or fail to put in follow up shots!
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26 March 2013, 23:12
Cross LNone of the three listed species will hunt you under normal circumstances--they are all grazing prey species whos hard-wire is flight.
That being said-under unusual circumstances , wounded or trapped , yes any will charge.
Statistically the most dangerous bovine is a Dairy bull- Jerseys are the worst, followed by Short-Horns--either of them will actively hunt and attack you and they are habituated and used to humans.
Mac your getting grumpy----
26 March 2013, 23:33
Full RoarEvery year practically someone gets stomped dead in Yellowstone National Park from a Bison. Not because the Bison is overly aggressive, but because of idiots trying to get a "look at me being brave" picture of them and get to close. Bison do a pretty thorough job of turning idiots into fertilizer.
Cape buffalo are the only ones I have heard of that will activily wait in the shadows and attack a casual passer by, although I am sure you dont want to come across a Austrailian scrub bull face to face in the bush.
Wyoming Jackalope eat bison for breakfast and should be avoided at all costs. There is no DG large enough to defend against a determined jackalope
26 March 2013, 23:35
Gayne C. Youngquote:
Probably ours, because they are constantly on the look-out for attacking wallabies trying to prey on them. It is a well-known fact that one wallaby can kill a full-grown buffalo bull with a swipe of its tail.
Ha!
27 March 2013, 02:16
JefffiveFrom what I've read leaving the dwarf forest buffalo out of the calculation is an injustice, little bastards are reputed to have MUCH bigger attitude problems than their larger cousins, probably because every encounter they have with anything is already close up.
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27 March 2013, 04:49
MacD37quote:
Originally posted by Cross L:
Mac your getting grumpy----
What do mean GETTING????
I've been told that for some time now, but it ain't true! I'm just a cuddely old bear!
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"If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982
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27 March 2013, 06:12
Michael Robinsonquote:
Originally posted by someoldguy:
Some days I think we're all just a bunch of out-of-work comedians here.
I'll have you know that I am gainfully employed and paying ridiculous taxes!
Mike
Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer.
27 March 2013, 09:33
ScriptusIn reality, the best answers would be from those who have died at the "hands" of these beasties.
posted 27 March 2013 06:12 Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by someoldguy:
Some days I think we're all just a bunch of out-of-work comedians here. Big Grin
I'll have you know that I am gainfully employed and paying ridiculous taxes! Big Grin
Mike
Hah! The dues of "socialism??
