.416 Taylor

17 March 2002, 20:16

<Aaron Rust>

.416 Taylor

I just wondering what you all think about the .416 Taylorï¿½. I have an 8.5 lbs. .458 WM that rattles my Eye teeth when I shoot itï¿½ I may leave it alone because I can shoot it accuratelyï¿½. Although the only two things I have shot with it is tree squirrels on the ground at 20 and 30 yards. ï¿½ I was doubting that I could shoot it in a hunting situationï¿½. Pleasantly surprisedï¿½. Used enough gunï¿½. I am contemplating a rebarrel to the Taylorï¿½. Extra weight in the barrel will help and it will give me a little more versatilityï¿½. Feeding should be about the sameï¿½ Length is the same so the standard mag will workï¿½. It is in a Standard FN action. I doubt Iï¿½ll do anything but thinking of it.. The rifle is a semi custom Husqvarna (with too much drop in the stock), so its not a collectorï¿½s item. What do you think?
Aaron

18 March 2002, 09:23

Stefan

Aaron.

If your rifle still have the HVA stock I really understand why you have difficulties handling the .458 Win Mag.!! Get a new straigth classick stock on it and you will inprove your shooting 100%, no kidding!!

I use to have a .416 Taylor built on a HVA action. I had a classic stock on it and yes it had some recoil but it was not all that hard to control. My rifle was a bit heavyer that yours to, about 10 lbs, scope included.

Those old HVA stocks use to crack up on 30-06 rifles! How is your stock handling the .458?

Stefan.

18 March 2002, 02:25

<Aaron Rust>

I put a large recoil lug in the barrel channel and relieved the tang so It wasn't bearing.... I've only shot about 100 rounds and no problems yet! I understand the stock isn't for a big bore but its an old walnut that has seen some use which give the gun character. A rebarrel would cost a whole lot less that a new stock.... The gun has some sentimental value or I would just trade it off.
Aaron

18 March 2002, 05:06

Stefan

A McMillan stock for ex. would not be all that more expensive than a rebarrel job, if you donï¿½t do the rebarreling yourselfe that is.

The recoil from a .458 Win. isnï¿½t that mutch different from a .416 Taylor. I havent tried them side by side but from my meory it isnï¿½t mutch difference. The added weigth from a heavyer barrel would help, no doubt.

I still have te distinct feeling that you will never be happy with a big bore like the .458, or the lovley .416 Taylor, in combination with the original HVA stock.

Good shooting!

Stefan.

18 March 2002, 06:27

Frank Martinez

A suggestion for your needs. Send your barrel to Pac-Nor and have them make up a 416 barrel for you that matches your existing barrel. Then just switch them and try the 416 out. You can always go back to the 458.

18 March 2002, 09:54

Stefan

A McMillan stock for ex. would not be all that more expensive than a rebarrel job, if you donï¿½t do the rebarreling yourselfe that is.

I still have te distinct feeling that you will never be happy with a big bore like the .458, or the lovley .416 Taylor, in combination with the original HVA stock.

Good shooting!

Stefan.

18 March 2002, 12:36

470 Mbogo

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Aaron Rust:
Hi Aaron,
Stefan is giving you real good information. Put the new straight stock on your rifle and a Pachmayer triple X recoil pad.Your shooting will improve 100%. You said that there is sentimental value to the gun so by just restocking it you can always drop it back into the old stock have a look and a sigh and then put it back into your shooting stock.The Taylor does have similar recoil to the 458. I have a 9lb. 416 Taylor and it is set up as above. It is very nice to shoot. Take your 458 and load it with 400 to 450 grain bullets and it will more versitile. You should be able to get 2200 to 2250 fps and it will be easy to shoot.

470 Mbogo

[This message has been edited by 470 Mbogo (edited 03-18-2002).]

19 March 2002, 05:18

MacD37

quote:
Originally posted by 470 Mbogo:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Aaron Rust:
Hi Aaron,
Stefan is giving you real good information. Put the new straight stock on your rifle and a Pachmayer triple X recoil pad.Your shooting will improve 100%. Take your 458 and load it with 400 to 450 grain bullets and it will more versitile.
470 Mbogo
[This message has been edited by 470 Mbogo (edited 03-18-2002).]

Aron, 470 Mbogo is giveing it to you streight. Use the new stock when hunting, and drop it back in the old stock for the wall. The 458 Win Mag should have never been loaded with a 500 gr bullet in the first place. There simply isn't enough powder capacity to handle 500 gr bullets properly. The cartridge the the 458 was brought out to replace is the 450NE 3.25" useing a 480 gr bullet @ 2150 fps, but the 500 gr bullet will not let it do that in a 22", to 24" barrel. I find the 458 Win Mag works best with the 400 gr bulltes, both soft, and solid. All the 458 Win Mag is, is a 45-70 long, and the 2150 fps is easy with the 400 gr bullets, and will work just fine on buffalo.

I have three Mauser actioned rifles right now, and one of them will be a 22" heavy barreled 458 Win Mag, with iron sights,a Pach. recoil pad, and useing a 400 gr soft, and solid from Woodliegh!

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