27 October 2009, 18:34
eurocentricS&W M&P15-22
Does anyone have this rimfire AR? I would very much like to get one if its worth it, just plinking and short-range hunting for Coons and possums.
29 October 2009, 15:53
BISCUTIf you already have an AR it would probably be better to get a conversion kit. There are a few good quality ones out there.
BTW: I'm in Dutchess Cty.
29 October 2009, 23:44
eurocentricIts more for my son, I got him a Bushy in .223 but looking fo something smaller for up-close shooting.
29 October 2009, 23:50
eurocentricI'm hunting coon and fox fri and sat nites in your woods.
quote:
Originally posted by BISCUT:
If you already have an AR it would probably be better to get a conversion kit. There are a few good quality ones out there.
BTW: I'm in Dutchess Cty.
01 November 2009, 18:30
BISCUTWhat town? How did it go?
I'm a member of 110Rod and Gun in Lagrangville. Great place. Few hundred acres and lots of deer. We have squirrel, phesant, etc... shoots a few times a yr.
03 November 2009, 03:29
Rob HaughtOf the AR .22's available the S&W is the way to go. Its very affordable compared to the Uppers offered for use on your standard AR. The magazines are robust and the gun is mil spec in dimension so that all your accessories will fit. We use them as trainers to offset the expense of 5.56 ammo. We set them up identical to our work guns with Aimpoints etc and can do most of the things you need done to train core skills with the carbine. Besides all that, they are just plain fun to shoot.
Rob
03 November 2009, 03:33
Rob HaughtCouple of other points in favor of the S&W. The safety selector switch operates like the original, whereas the Colt version goes all the way around to full auto position before it will fire. The bolt also locks back on the last round and can be released in the normal fashion where others do not. It keeps the handling skills the same as the 5.556 big brother. Magazines are available for around $15 bucks.
05 November 2009, 07:55
Matt NormanI have one and have fired ~150 rounds through it. Was doing fine until I had a shell rupture at the rim (cheap Winchester walmart ammo) and it blew the extractor out. Called S&W, they promptly sent me a Fed-Ex shipping label, and I had the rifle back with new extractor 6 business days later. They included two 25-shot magazines in the case. That is good service.
Before the shell that ruptured it was shooting great. I had a scope and a red dot sight that I shot it with and prefer the red dot. It's a great 25-yard tin can gun. It's light enough that you get a bit of a recoil pulse. The trigger is indeed a mil-spec type. It has a real barrel on it (not the 'lined' version that the others have) plus it is designed from jump-street to fire the .22 rimfire cartridge.
Two other co-workers have them and are totally impressed. More are on order as one can shoot one of these all day long for under twenty bucks! Plus I have some grand-kids that can shoot this with the M-4 style stock shortened up!
08 November 2009, 03:42
eurocentricEast fishkill, tough nite because it got very windy later in the evening, I got one coon and didnt get a shot off on a fox, didnt see him til the last second and he winded me.
quote:
Originally posted by eurocentric:
I'm hunting coon and fox fri and sat nites in your woods.
quote:
Originally posted by BISCUT:
If you already have an AR it would probably be better to get a conversion kit. There are a few good quality ones out there.
BTW: I'm in Dutchess Cty.
08 November 2009, 03:43
eurocentricI went with the S&W today, it really feels nice. Good point about the cheap ammo, I'm going to do some research on that.
11 November 2009, 16:23
Lloyd SmaleI cant see why. For the same price you can buy a dedicated .22 gun that is going to be hands down better shooting.
quote:
Originally posted by BISCUT:
If you already have an AR it would probably be better to get a conversion kit. There are a few good quality ones out there.
BTW: I'm in Dutchess Cty.
14 November 2009, 05:21
Matt NormanActually Lloyd, the S&W M&P 15-22 is a dedicated .22. It's innards were designed from the ground up as a .22 rimfire (not some AR-15 reworked kit). It's very high quality and the barrel is first rate. The exterior is indeed black gun and most all of the various gadgets available for the black guns fit it. I like the M4 style collapsable stock as it will fit my grandkids through their growth stages.
Granted, a ~$450 .22 plinker is a bit steep. But it does have some gee-whiz factor. I see Ruger is taking their 10-22 and packaging it up to appear as a black rifle.
Many of the younger Vets that I work with along with my Soldier-son, they identify more with the black rifle than the old school, walnut stock traditional firearms.
And with the main controls identical to the AR-15 rifles, this is good way to go out and do a lot of shooting for under twenty bucks and grow more comfortable with the black rifles.
04 January 2010, 20:09
eurocentricI got a second rifle for me and my son as well, both shoot great! we installed Leupold's AR 1-4x20 scopes with Millett's extra high rings. Neat shooters with both CCI Mini-Mags and subsonics. So far so good.
06 January 2010, 04:49
Lloyd Smalei realize that i was comparing the smith to buying an upper. I own a smith and mine is very accurate and reliable and id take it in a heartbeat over an upper
quote:
Originally posted by Matt Norman:
Actually Lloyd, the S&W M&P 15-22 is a dedicated .22. It's innards were designed from the ground up as a .22 rimfire (not some AR-15 reworked kit). It's very high quality and the barrel is first rate. The exterior is indeed black gun and most all of the various gadgets available for the black guns fit it. I like the M4 style collapsable stock as it will fit my grandkids through their growth stages.
Granted, a ~$450 .22 plinker is a bit steep. But it does have some gee-whiz factor. I see Ruger is taking their 10-22 and packaging it up to appear as a black rifle.
Many of the younger Vets that I work with along with my Soldier-son, they identify more with the black rifle than the old school, walnut stock traditional firearms.
And with the main controls identical to the AR-15 rifles, this is good way to go out and do a lot of shooting for under twenty bucks and grow more comfortable with the black rifles.