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Value of Model 70 (1961) Target 30-06, and 1942 Sporter

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28 September 2013, 04:28
Biebs
Value of Model 70 (1961) Target 30-06, and 1942 Sporter
Guys, I am helping a widow sell off her husband's firearms. He was a Korean War vet and active military match shooter. I addition to M1 Garands and 1911 pistols, he has a Model 70 Target Rifle made in 1961, with bull barrel, target sights, and forward hand-stop. It has 2 areas of rub on the stock, but otherwise is near mint.

He also has a Model 70 made in 1942 marked 30 GOV'T'06. It has the "boat-paddle- safety, and has target block bases on it, although I have the original open sights as well.

Any ideas what I should sell these for?

Pix to follow
28 September 2013, 04:34
hikerbum
The 1942 could be from $500 if very well used, to $1500 if near mint and all original.

The other one depending on chambering. I think some were300 H&H and some were '06. Maybe $1000 or a little more

What do you have in 1911's to sell for her? Any commander or officer models?


Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum
28 September 2013, 04:37
Biebs
Here's the target rifle. I'm going to her home to sort through his stuff to find the rear receiver sight. I'm missing them for several rifles.







28 September 2013, 04:39
Biebs
This is the 1942. It has target block bases on it now, but I have the rear sight.








29 September 2013, 01:15
Idaho Sharpshooter
This past April the Boise Cabela's had a similar Target Model in 308. It also had a Unertl 10X.

It sold about three months later for $1900 with scope.

The '42 vintage should go for about $750-900.

Rich

ask her if she'd take fifty dollars a month for the rest of my life for the pair...?
29 September 2013, 01:22
waterrat
Idaho Sharpshooter nailed it on the prices!

They are both very cool rifles.


I tend to use more than enough gun
29 September 2013, 05:59
LJS
I think the 1942 is more in the $900 to $1000 range. Don't know on the target gun.
29 September 2013, 21:07
Biebs
Lou, I just sold the 1942 on Guns Int'l for $1,550 to a collector.
29 September 2013, 21:39
LJS
Good going! You're doing a good deed!
29 September 2013, 22:13
Biebs
He also has the cleanest Springfield 22 Trainer I've ever seen, with sights intact, original buttplate and leather military sling. I've seen lesser examples sell for $2,500 or getter. Built on an 03-A3 action....cool little rifle.
30 September 2013, 03:45
butchlambert
Biebs,
That is one I would really like to have, but I'm not the local bond holder as my Dad used to call the wealthy.
30 September 2013, 03:58
Biebs
Butch, PM me you email address and I'll send some pix. It is spectacular.
02 October 2013, 07:53
wolfhunter 2
What is the asking price for the target rifle and what does the inside of the barrel look like Kevin
02 October 2013, 08:30
Biebs
Kevin, I'm waiting to see if she can come up with the rear sight for it, so it's all original. The barrels on all his firearms are remarkably clean. I don't know how he cleaned them, but even after sitting for a year or so, I can run a patch tightly through any of the rifles, and it comes out without a hint of residue on it. The bore look like a mirror, I can't detect the least bit of erosion. I'll give her through this weekend, and then have to price it accordingly.
02 October 2013, 23:37
vicvanb
quote:
Originally posted by Biebs:
Lou, I just sold the 1942 on Guns Int'l for $1,550 to a collector.


You did really well considering it was about am 85%-90% condition rifle drilled and tapped on the rear bridge which kills collectability.
03 October 2013, 21:44
Biebs
The guy who bought it deals only in pre-64s, and seemed to know what he was doing. Perhaps the "#0 GOV'T'06 instead of 30-06 on the barrel had some influence on the value.
03 October 2013, 23:00
vicvanb
quote:
Perhaps the "#0 GOV'T'06 instead of 30-06 on the barrel had some influence on the value.


Not really. 52,000 Pre-war M70s all had it.
03 October 2013, 23:49
Alberta Canuck
[QUOTE]Originally posted by hikerbum:
The 1942 could be from $500 if very well used, to $1500 if near mint and all original.

The other one depending on chambering. I think some were300 H&H and some were '06. /QUOTE]


Pre-'64 '70 Targets came in more chamberings than .30-06 and .300 H&H. I have personally owned factory original .220 Swift, .243 Winchester, .257 Roberts, and .270 Winchester pre-'64 M70 Target Winchesters as well as the two different .30s quoted above.


My country gal's just a moonshiner's daughter, but I love her still.

04 October 2013, 01:12
Biebs
Hey Lloyd? How's it going? Glad to hear from you.

Biebs
05 October 2013, 00:19
Alberta Canuck
Hi Biebs - Thank you for asking. I am doing a bit better. They kicked me out of Hospice of the Valley because I hadn't died for them. Wink


My country gal's just a moonshiner's daughter, but I love her still.

05 October 2013, 02:19
Biebs
Lloyd, that's a GOOD place to get kicked out of! Keep it up :-)
06 October 2013, 23:29
vicvanb
quote:
Originally posted by Alberta Canuck:

Pre-'64 '70 Targets came in more chamberings than .30-06 and .300 H&H.


He was apparently thinking of M70 Bull Guns.
17 October 2013, 02:23
Alberta Canuck
You're probably right...he likely was thinking of the "Bull Guns". I've owned both calibers of those, and they didn't even occur to me because I find them so different from the pre-'64 "Target" models...barrel length, barrel diameter, and several other things.

Another interesting (to me) pre-'64 variant, was the "Varminter". I don't know how many chamberings THEY came in, but I have owned and shot quite a bit with ones in .220 Swift and .243 Winchester.


My country gal's just a moonshiner's daughter, but I love her still.

17 October 2013, 04:29
vicvanb
quote:
Originally posted by Alberta Canuck:
Another interesting (to me) pre-'64 variant, was the "Varminter". I don't know how many chamberings THEY came in, but I have owned and shot quite a bit with ones in .220 Swift and .243 Winchester.


They came in only 2 calibers (unless special ordered)--243 and 220 Swift. Most were 243s--220 Swifts are pretty rare and much more collectible collectible than 243s.