A BR shooting buddy of mine from Seymour,Texas just got back from OZ. He was able to get this monster with a bow. They told him if the measurement stands, it will be third on the list. I think John said they were hunting out of Gove??


Butch

DANG!!! Now that's a great buffalo!

If you're interested, he used a Mathews Rezen 70# pull. He used 700grn. Alaska Grizzly Sticks with 290grn. Nanook Point 2 blade. Shot was at 25 yards quartering.He had complete penetration with only the fletchs in the animal. He went 50yds.
Butch

It could only have been done with a Mathews...

Rich
DRSS

Butchlambert: Do you know what kind of velocity he was getting with set up? I was just looking at ordering some Grizzly Sticks. Did he have any issues getting them to shoot?

That is incredibly cool! Thanks for sharing! I want to go back to OZ to hunt. When I lived in Brisbane I just worked all the time and never met any hunters.

Congratulations!!!

IMHO, Grizzlis are wonderful, but penetrationwise, I prefer the Stos. Thicker and a lesser frontal area.

Anyhow an outstanding buffalo and an incredible achievement.

Super accomplishment by the gentleman from Seymour! Thanks for sharing.

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Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
It could only have been done with a Mathews...

Rich
DRSS

If he would have used a PSE it would have been a pass through.

and if he'd been shooting a Martin, the arrow would still be going!

I'm so happy for you and on the other hand so sad for me! Water buffalo have always been a dream of mine. I love to see someone else fulfilling their dreams too.

Great buffalo and with a bow to boot!!

the chef

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IMHO, Grizzlis are wonderful, but penetrationwise, I prefer the Stos. Thicker and a lesser frontal area.

Not exactly true, the Grizzly's come in a number of different weights and the 160's and 190 El Grandes are the thickest. They do have a bigger frontal area, but that extra width makes them stronger, I have seen the STOS tip curl up like a elf shoe on bones.

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Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
It could only have been done with a Mathews...

Rich
DRSS

You're an idiot. Seriously?!?!

It is a very nice bull. I would caution anyone going after water buffalo to NOT take a quartering away shot, its a VERY low percentage shot.

I'll tell John next time I talk to him.
Butch

nice bull

loboga, if you "tanto" the tip of the STOS it won't curl. I modify all my STOS after curling one on a bone hit.

troy

Dtala, if I tanto the tip on the STOS, I end up with nearly the identical shape as the Grizzly. Not a bad thing, but on my heavy arrows I need the tip weight, so I am better off going with the 190 Grizzly than the 160 STOS with some of the tip removed. The Grizzly also gives me more cutting surface.

If it was a Hoyt it would have passed through the other Buff on the far side and still be going !

A passthrough has not much to do with the bow, as long as it's tuned for perfect arrow flight and the arrow is properly done.

Take the grizzly add a hundred grain steel broadhead adapter and use 50 or 100 grain brass inserts in the arrow. It's all old hat to some people but others might not know how to front load for weight. I used to use weight tubes but I'm convinced that they are counter productive.

Dang what a nice animal!!!

We DO know what the Mathews did. All else is speculation...

Very nice animal

Rich

Here we go again....

I actually have quite a few photos here of the #1 archery buff and it was killed with a $28 longbow! I also have photos of the exit wounds. The same week a compound(I won't say which brand) with almost exactly twice as much energy could not get an arrow through the ribs(lots of arrows) of a similar body sized bull. The difference was the arrow weight and type of heads. I also have photos of those three blade modular heads(and others) sticking in the outside of ribs.

loboga, you are correct on the comparison of the STOS and Grizzly weights...

I use a 100gr brass insert, 40+ grain adapter and the 160 STOS for 300gr "head" for deer and hogs.

I would use a 190 Grizzly set up the same way, except I'd use a steel adapter at 100 gr for near 400gr up front.

nice bull....

troy

Logoba how many lbs. what the longbow?

Monty's longbow was 86#'s.
I started working up buffalo arrows without a lot of the stuff available now. My buff arrows are a 2219 with a 35-55 Goldtip inside and a one piece aluminum adaptor filled with lead and the 190 Grizzly, they are actually the best flying arrows I have ever shot and come in at 970 grains. Quite a few traditional guys have copied them at they worked for all.

you know, I have been wondering what the next insanity would be and now I am afraid I just might have found it. Heavens that bull is gorgeous. I already shoot a longbow but I don't know about those 900 grain arrows. I am going to have to think on that one. How far do they travel before they nose dive to the earth?

If you make heavy arrows up right, they don't "nosedive", its just a continous arc. Mine have a 12%foc and the spine is right on the money. It is a high tradjectory, but I have put one after another into a paper plate at 35 yards with NO fletching on them. If the conditons are right, you should have no problem getting a 20 yard or less shot at a buffalo and sometimes it may be a LOT closer. A perfect flying HEAVY arrow is the important thing for buffalo, long range shooting is not.

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Originally posted by butchlambert:
A BR shooting buddy of mine ..was able to get this monster with a bow. They told him if the measurement stands, it will be third on the list. ...

What a HUGE TROPHY!!!