Too weird! There was just an ad on H2History channel.

2014 SS Camaros with an $8500 discounted price.

Now, 20% off a 2015 wouldn't be too bad, or 30% a leftover 2014. There has been advertising of 20% off 2014 models, but I have seen ads for 25% approx. off some pickups. Trying to get them off the lots by the end of the year, I guess.

I read recently that the manufacturers have found that buyers are more attracted to big discounts than they are to actual price, hence the big "discounts", especially on pick-ups. Maybe us pick-up buyers are more gullible.

Could be. My Dodge dealer wants a $20K markup over MSRP on a new Hellcat, but will knock the same amount off off a Platinum Package equipped One Ton Single Axle(rear) Wheel 3500 series P/U.