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I was going to build a 577/500 No. 2 Express, but I found this one on Gunbroker instead. It was built by A. Conyers, Blandford, England, is tight, and the bore is excellent. The buttstock is an old replacement, but I can live with that. Now to get the lovely old thing shooting. Can you say elk rifle? So now what do I do with a spare martini action and stock?









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Now you’re in business!
I’ve got probably 100 loaded cartridges and an itch to hit the range!
If they chamber in your rifle we could really send some lead downrange!
 
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Sounds like a play date!


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Very nice.
You put your kit on AR and sell it for half what you paid for it. That is how I do it.
 
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Nice!! I love it!!

As to your project....just go ahead with it and choose another caliber. And of course post pictures.

Thanks for sharing.


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Wonderful find, Dave. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. Can't wait for you to get it shooting.


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I am thinking about building a .33 Winchester or .35 Winchester.


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I think a 35Win. makes more sense than the 33.
 
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Dave, I agree with our friend Huvius. That .35 is a sweetheart.


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One nice thing about the .35 Winchester is that I have a couple of cast bullet molds that would be perfect for it. The downside is brass availability unless I am willing to live with .30-40 Krag brass, which is really too short.


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Love the 577/500! On your martini parts why not try a 375 2.5? It's "correct" for the period, easy to load for and great on most North American game. A .375 barrel is easy, brass from 405 Win, slightly harder, and just about any .375 bullet will work.
 
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I concur with .375 idea.


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Looking at the .375 2.5 and the 450/400 2-3/8, and leaning towards the 450/400 since brass will be easier to come by.


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Another favorite of mine is the 450#2 musket. If you can find some dies (CH4D) the rest is easy. Brass from Starline 50-90 Sharps, and a 300-350 gr .458 cast bullet. The original bullet was about 480 gr but I like the lighter ones better, more of an express or velopex load. I know, go back to sleep.
 
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The 450/400 2 3/8 is the best idea yet.....imho


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For that spare Martini action, find a good SMLE barrel. The threads are the same as the Martini. Fit the 303 barrel and cut the breech end for extractors. Now you have a stalking rifle. I have one done that way. I still need to make a fore end. The SMLE barrel is pretty light weight, so the whole thing will go around 7 lbs. The SMLE rear sight for the MK III barrel is adjustable and highly shootable even for vintage eyes, as it is pretty far forward. If you find a No 4 barrel with no rear sight, fit a Lyman 66 peep sight made for 94 Winchesters.


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Gun Parts Corp has SMLE ..308 barrel from Ishapore for $78 complete with sights. Fit this to your Martini action and Use a .30/30 reamer to make it a .307 Winchester. I had one barreled that way but only loaded it to 303 pressures in deference to the Martini action strength.


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That is awesome!
I will add that it is one of the easiest two piece stock design to make a nice new stock for with simple tools. I have made several of them for my big bore H&R Handi Rifles. Same tang bolt design, etc. If you get to that, I can guide you through it. Brian


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Here is a 303 barreled Martini for sale!

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/876958386


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Beautiful rifle!

Does No.2 musket have any performance advantage over 577/450?
 
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The 577/500 No. 2 is currently with Steve Bertram (SKB)getting a new buttstock to match the forend and the rest of the rifle. I will post pictures when Steve gets it back to me. The jury is still out on what the action will become, but I dummied up some .375-2.5 rounds from 9.3x74R brass and it looks like it would be a fun and reasonably practical round.


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