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Posts: 432 | Location: Baytown, TX | Registered: 07 November 2001Reply With Quote
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Nice pic - what calibre ????

I have several sporting martini's 17AH, 17/222 Rimmed, 218 Mashburn, 22K Hornet and 222 Rimmed.
 
Posts: 1785 | Location: Kingaroy, Australia | Registered: 29 April 2002Reply With Quote
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Nice, very nice - you're a bit further along on your project than I am with my lightweight .218 Bee.
 
Posts: 376 | Location: Farmington, NM - USA | Registered: 23 May 2002Reply With Quote
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Nice Martini!
I have a .357 MAX myself.
It is an NEF that has been shortened to 16 1/2" barrel, 31" OAL, has a J&S Hawken trigger guard replacing the plastic abomination, and a carrying sling. The stock has been stained and oil-finished, and the forend has been slimmed down, shortened and contoured like older firearms.
I have three cart. loops on the buttstock with the cart. inletted to 1/2 their depth so they don't stick out so far as a butt cuff with loops.
I dovetailed the breech of the barrel for a homemade drift adj. only peep sight and have an AO white patridge front. (Both front & rear sights are 'hell for stout').
This is a pick-up, horseback rifle and chore rifle for me, as that is how I travel since I have legs that don't work so well and I cannot abide atv's and travel where they cannot go.

A close friend loads 25 gr. Rel 7 and 200 gr. Hornady RN for sub MOA 3 shot groups @ 100 yds in his MAX NEF.
I load thru a Harrel measure with drop tube, 25.5 to 26 gr. Rel.7 and 200 gr. Sierra and Hornady RN's. (Rem. .35 cal. RN Core-Lokt may be worth trying...)
This load hits harder than 30-30 and leaves a much wider, deeper wound channel.
I am "guesstimating" 1,900 fps.

.35 Rem and .33 Win are around 2,000 to 2,200 with longer barrels and same weight bullet.
Both had an enviable "rep" among deer, bear, and elk hunters of the era after the turn of the century till WW2.

The trajectory is less arched than a .44 mag. rifle with 240 gr. bullet, and I believe I have an effective "point blank" clear to 150 yds., which is my personal limit for deer hunting with iron sights. (Most of my deer have been shot considerably under 100 yds., only 3 over 200, and none at all between 100 and 200 yds.)

Around here there are mtn. lion, blackbear, deer and feral dogs.
I am going to try to get the fastest, accurate, same POI 158 gr. or less, HP, possible for feral dogs and cougar. (30-30 has been very dissapointing here, as have .308 with the excellent for deer 165 Rem. Core-Lokt.)
MAX has also shot every .38spl./.357 load I have put thru it very well.
I will load a single .360 roundball over 3 to 4 or maybe 5 in the long case, gr. of RedDot for grouse, rabbits and squirrels. (These roundball loads have worked very well for me in everything but micro-groove barrels, in .32-20 and .357/.38spl.)

If you have a .38 spl./.357 pistol, try your loads in your MAX rifle. You may be pleasantly surprised how well they will shoot out of it!

I think this is a super subsistance/hunting/woods roaming cal. whether you travel by foot, horse, snowmobile, or canoe.

(Share your loads with us?)

Regards,
Dave 32-20
 
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Nice pic - what calibre ????

I have several sporting martini's 17AH, 17/222 Rimmed, 218 Mashburn, 22K Hornet and 222 Rimmed.

This one is going to be .357MAX. See my post below, it has details. I also have another Cadet in .17 Ackely Bee.
 
Posts: 432 | Location: Baytown, TX | Registered: 07 November 2001Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by dave3220:
Nice Martini!
I have a .357 MAX myself.
(Share your loads with us?)

Regards,
Dave 32-20

Wow! I think you gave me more info in one message than I been able to gather since I started the project. Thanks! I had in mind, using it primarily as a lite whitetail rig, and a "plinker". Bought a box of Speer 180's to try out. It's the bullet they make for the .35 Rem, so should be a "velocity fit". I really hadn't thought about heavier weight bullets, I -assumed- there would be trajectory problems past 100 yds... I had also assumed a max range of about 150 yards. Hadn't thought about the roundball-that might really be fun on squirrels... I'm going to try a "red dot" sight on this rig. Had I known how well my recent cataract surgery would turn out, I might have opted for a peep setup. But I had already started gathering "bits" beforehand... I also might try my hand at making a cartridge trap for the buttstock, if I can come up with some brass stock. It'll probably be another month before I get it chambered. Got another project in the works I'm trying to get finished before deer season...
 
Posts: 432 | Location: Baytown, TX | Registered: 07 November 2001Reply With Quote
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Midsouth still has some of those OEM 180 grain "one shot" pistol bullets for sale.
Least they still had some last I checked and 10 bucks and change is a bargain!
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Just an opinon of course
 
Posts: 4223 | Location: TN USA | Registered: 17 March 2002Reply With Quote
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Pedeastal,
I bought a bunch of those 180 gr. that look like they would slip thru the air faster and better.
As usual, I got to hear that game show 'penalty buzzer' ("Blaaaat!!" "TOO bad, Dave! Not only do you not get the trip to Cancun, but you lose the monogrammed set of matched luggage!")
The 180 did not work as well as the blunter, heavier RN's, and the weight and blunt nose
does not adversely affect the traj. within realistic ranges.
You barrel may shoot them great...but give the big blunt ones a try, too.
(Make sure you compare the 180's and the different 200's in newspaper. Wet or dry, it gives you a basis of comparison.) (I think dry, or nearly so is more like bone and hard muscle tissue than soaking wet would tend to duplicate.)

RedDot worked the best for me. I have used it for roundball loads since I traded for some when I was in Jr. High.
I've tried others, but haven't found anything to equal it yet.

Glad to hear about your cataract surgery turning out so well! (That is a scary thought, after spending more time than I want to think about training to keep someone from sticking a knife in my eye, I am going to have to have the same thing done sooner or later.)

Regards,
Dave .32-20
 
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Dave3220, You have the "one rifle does all thing" covered!! [Big Grin] Those light round ball loads sound neat, how do the shoot?? I am gonna try them in a 10" TC barrel.

Might have to look at the H&R/NEF in a 357 mag again.... [Wink]
 
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