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| Great cal and in a #1 you can get 400's to 2300fps. I say restock in a nice english walnut and go shoot big nasty kritters! |
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| Keep it.
Don’t waste money on a double in 450-400 or on shooting big stuff with it.
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| Good suggestions guys. Guess it's time to head to the range. |
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| For practice loads I use 400 gr cast bullet with Trailboss. Velocity is about 1600 fps. Recoil is about like a 243 Winchester. |
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| I like the full house loads in the 450/400 but mostly I do the same as impala. Talk about a 1st class medium game thumper.
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| I have one; it is one of the best #1 calibers. I did cheat and put a merc brake in the butt. That makes it kick like a 243. Disclaimer; I do not own, nor will I ever own, a 243, so I can only guess what they are like.
I shoot 410 grain lead bullets from my 40-65 out of it, and also 300 grain 405 bullets, so it is very versatile. You can also shoot 41 mag pistol bullets if you wanted to. |
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| Think about this for a second.
You will probably have an accurate 1.5-3 Moa gun on which you can mount a nice scope with good rings.
You can shoot it off the bench, sticks or off hand.
You can take it in a tree stand.
If you don’t like it you can probably sell it to me.
It’s alternative is a over priced double, that is barely oil barrel accurate at 100 yards, super expensive and you cannot really take it in a tree stand.
Your gun will hold value and shooting it you won’t lose much value. It will be a sub $2k with scope and rings that you will be able to easily sell.
It is a good (actually great) value for the caliber and the caliber is a nice one.
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| Years before Ruger offered these from the factory, I had the late barrel maker Chick Donnelly of Siskiyou Barrel Works put one of his barrels on a Ruger No. 1 in this caliber. I eventually sold this to a guy in Alaska, and as far as I know it is still doing very fine work up there on moose and bears.
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| Thanks of all the info.
... now, I just have to figure out how to pay its way to Africa. |
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| These days, 699 is worth buying for the stock and action alone on a #1. Definitely a cartridge that has versatility, everything from gophers to elephants. It has been one of the more fun guns I own. |
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| I'll go with the crowd and say "shoot it!" quote: Originally posted by dpcd:
I have one; it is one of the best #1 calibers. I did cheat and put a merc brake in the butt. That makes it kick like a 243. Disclaimer; I do not own, nor will I ever own, a 243, so I can only guess what they are like.
I shoot 410 grain lead bullets from my 40-65 out of it, and also 300 grain 405 bullets, so it is very versatile. You can also shoot 41 mag pistol bullets if you wanted to.
If you need a brake on a 450-400, then maybe a 243 is ideal for you.  (Just kidding) I have three 243's, a light weight hunter for deer and antelope, a full blown 1,000 yard rifle for competition (and varmints) and a Savage 99.
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"I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money."
- Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953
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| quote: Originally posted by dpcd:
I have one; it is one of the best #1 calibers. I did cheat and put a merc brake in the butt. That makes it kick like a 243. Disclaimer; I do not own, nor will I ever own, a 243, so I can only guess what they are like.
I shoot 410 grain lead bullets from my 40-65 out of it, and also 300 grain 405 bullets, so it is very versatile. You can also shoot 41 mag pistol bullets if you wanted to.
Damn! dpcd I always thought you were a real gun savvy fellow! You are missing one of the best small rifle chamberings known to modern man! I wish I had a very light S/S double rifle chambered for a rimmed version of the 243 Win! ............  ......................................................................   ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith  |
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| quote: Originally posted by Beretta682E:
Keep it.
Don’t waste money on a double in 450-400 or on shooting big stuff with it.
Mike
Hmm. 450/400 is my favorite double caliber. I and own a slew of doubles in calibers from the 400/360 to 577.
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| I would personally keep it and load it like a 400 Black powder express, but make up nitro for black loads, using 4198 under Dacron pillow fiber and 300 grain lead bullets. For me, that would keep it fun to shoot.
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Heed the words of Winston Smith in Orwell's 1984:
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| Can't speak to nitro for black loads, but AA5744 works fine with 320gr & 400gr cast in it, no fillers. 320 does 2050 with no issues, and it's about like my 338WM was to shoot with 210gr loads. The 400 gets a bit more noticeable at the 1800+ range. |
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| And if you want to cut shooting costs and recoil even more, try 48 gr of AA5744 and some 210 gr .41 pistol bullets. I have even killed several deer and pigs with that combo.
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| I have about 250 rounds through my Boddington Buffalo over the past 9 months. Wonderful rifle to shoot. I did put a Pachmayer Decelerator on it and my practice load I mostly shoot is 400gr DGS or DGX with 78gr IMR 4831. Pretty much duplicates the Hornady factory round (+25 fps or so). It is going to Zim next year as my "light" rifle.
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| Oil barrel accuracy from a double rifle? Assuredly NOT my experience, even with my old German double in 11.15 X 60R from the late 1870's. My Reilley in 500 BPE is even more accurate and I have no qualms about taking either into the deer woods.
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| quote: Originally posted by Beretta682E:
It’s alternative is a over priced double, that is barely oil barrel accurate at 100 yards
Mike
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