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I just picked up a nice Enfield Mark II action that is destined for becoming a classic British-styled sporting rifle in the style of Hollis, etc. The rifle will be shot with traditional black powder or smokeless for black loads. I am trying to decide on caliber, and have a short list of the following, all of which I know will work. 577/.450 Martini Henry 500/450 No. 1 Express 500/450 No. 2 Musket 577/500 No. 2 Black Powder Express (.500 No. 2 Express) I am also considering the 450/400 3-1/4 Black Powder Express, but have to play with a dummy to see if it will make the bend to chamber. So what do you guys think? One morning I shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got into my pajamas I'll never know. - Groucho Marx | ||
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I vote for Door No. 4 -- the .577/500 BPE No. 2. Plenty of barrels to choose from, brass easy to make and as much thump as one could want. And you'll be the only guy on your block that has one.  There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t. – John Green, author | |||
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If the 450 will make the bend, as you so accurately describe, that would be my first choice. After that any of them would be a whale of a lot of fun. DRSS: E. M. Reilley 500 BPE E. Goldmann in Erfurt, 11.15 X 60R Those who fail to study history are condemned to repeat it | |||
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The .450-400 3-1/4 BPE is my current first choice, mostly because I am already building a classic American-style sporting rifle in .50-70 on a rolling block. Also, I have two .408 bullet molds, and the availability of Hornady brass and dies makes the .450-400 3-1/4 BPE a more convenient option.. One morning I shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got into my pajamas I'll never know. - Groucho Marx | |||
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Better yet! Look behind door #5!  The 577/500 Magnum! That was origionally a 6 dram load. The same as the old 577 BPE but with a 1/2" bore! I've got 2 of these and 1 #2 and I like the Mags. better. NRA Life ASSRA Life DRSS Today's Quote: Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a free cell phone with free monthly minutes, food stamps, section 8 housing, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime. | |||
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Mike, we need photos man! There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t. – John Green, author | |||
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Of the shells?  The rifles are double barreled single shots. NRA Life ASSRA Life DRSS Today's Quote: Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a free cell phone with free monthly minutes, food stamps, section 8 housing, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime. | |||
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Shells and rifles! There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t. – John Green, author | |||
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Ok some eye candy. http://s1256.photobucket.com/u...s/Guns?sort=2&page=1 NRA Life ASSRA Life DRSS Today's Quote: Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a free cell phone with free monthly minutes, food stamps, section 8 housing, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime. | |||
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Eye candy of the most splendid sort! Are you sure you aren't actually Cal Pappas? There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t. – John Green, author | |||
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Oh, Heck NO! I'm much better looking!  NRA Life ASSRA Life DRSS Today's Quote: Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a free cell phone with free monthly minutes, food stamps, section 8 housing, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime. | |||
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Just so you all know, Mike buys his rifles when WalMart has a sale on doubles. Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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I don't think the 450/400 3-1/4" will make the turn without really hogging out the block channel. The 500No.2 is a good choice and was an original offering in the big Martini. | |||
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For me, it would have to be the .577-.450 Martini-Henry. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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The biggest problem with the 577/450 is that we don't have barrels the correct size of .452/.464" so you need to have a special reamer ground to suit a barrel .450/.458". Then dies to suit etc. When I built my sporter a few years ago I selected 577 Snider with a new Lothar/Walther barrel; no problems with feeding the action. I use a load of 95gnd FFG with a 620gn custom bullet and it is very impressive! | |||
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I had not thought about the .577 Snider, but it would be a good choice since I already have all of the stuff to reload for it. One morning I shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got into my pajamas I'll never know. - Groucho Marx | |||
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I vote "Old School"; the 577 Snider. | |||
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