I have been using this 1885 45-70 as my "primitive weapon" here in Louisiana for a couple of years now. It's the BPCR model with a heavy Badger barrel and it shoots really good. I only carry it to and from my stand so the weight is not a big deal but I would like to install a sling. The forend wood is very thin and probably too thin to mount a swivel stud so, I think I want to mount a stud on the barrel just forward of the forend. I also think it might be easier to have a screw on stud rather than solider so I don't have to reblue. Looking for some ideas or suggestions.

you might look at using a horizontally split 30 mm scope ring and making a black delrin insert to slip between it and the barrel.
Then tap the ring for the sling stud

lay off that pink one-

http://www.banderausa.com/padd...er-rifle-slings.html

I've owned a half dozen or so HiWalls.
Carry them all on a sling when hunting.







Never had a problem, course mine don't have the 30" heavy barrel and only weigh +/- 9 lbs.



I would think you could get a threaded sling stud, inlet the underside of the fore-end and insert a small washer and hex nut if you were worried about it ripping through the wood.

Best

GWB

Like Geedubya said, or it would be easy to drill and tap and mount a small sling swivel on the barrel.

Unfortunately the large diameter barrel leaves a very thin forend. With the extra weight I am afraid the wood will crack or split. If someone has done this I would be interested to see the application.

One could get a piece of square brass stock say 3/8 to 1/2". Cut it 1 to 3 inches long, drill and tap for your stud. Inlet your stock, epoxy the threaded brass stock, sand, and you should have plenty of bearing surface, and be good to go.

Best

GWB

quote:

Originally posted by tin can:
lay off that pink one-

http://www.banderausa.com/padd...er-rifle-slings.html

Nice slings.

I've made custom Barrel band for some very large bore rifles. I could also make you a screw on base but would need to know the diameter to shape the base.

The other thing is whats the wall thickness of the barrel in the location you want to mount the swivel?

I've got to make a set anyway so there would not be a set up fee.

I think those forends would find someother place to break even if the stud was well anchored. That rifle and scope probably weighs close to 14 pounds.

Grovtec makes this kit for double shotguns.
http://www.midsouthshooterssup....asp?sku=00114GTSW30
The front stud is convex to fit the bottom rib of a double. You'd have to flatten it for a octagon barrel or make it concave for a round barrel. A mill is the easiest way but it can be done with a file. But if you're going to drill the mounting holes in the barrel, a mill would be best for that.

Uncle mikes makes one which is about a 2/3's band which clamps around the barrel. They make one for .80 to .85 and one for .85 to .9. I have used them on several heavy barrel big bores over the years when the barrel was the correct size. They work great, have never come loose, look good (hardly distinguishable from a true band) and the blue is good. They cost about $10 to 15. On the other hand, I don't think you would have a problem with a convential sling stud. Use the forend kind with a nut inside, and counterbore the inside slightly for a reinforcing pad of epoxy around it. Coat the swivel and nut with release, screw it together and let the epoxy set.

The final option is to buy a double loop sling made for double barrel shotguns. Place one loop around the pistol grip, the other around the barrel in front of the forend. Carry it muzzle down (my preferred method anyway). When you arrive, just slip it off until you need it again. If esthetics is not a problem, you can take a conventional sling and two short lengths of 1/4" flexible cord and make your own. Won't work on the pheasant butts, but it works fine in a deer camp.

jawheeler,
A couple of thoughts
Wonder if you couldn't rig up or have made a leather collar to fit around your barrel in front of the fore-end that would lace up and incorporate a sling. You could install a stud the stock or add a leather cheekpad for the stock that would also carry ammo.

Not to beat it to death, but much of the hunting we do here is stand hunting. Due to the configuration of the terrain, I have to leave our hunting camp and go anywhere from a mile or so to access the area I hunt. Due to the nature of the terrain and where I hunt, an ATV is the best mode of transportation. Truck won't make it and you'd ruin a horse. Consequently I sling my rifles or strap a hard case to the ATV. I love blue steel and wood on fine rifles, but the trip to and from sure can be hard on the finish. As I'm always taking a pack stuffed with "possibles" I'm thinking of doing an Eberlestock Gunrunner pack.

http://www.eberlestock.com/H2%20Gunrunner.htm

Quick access to your rifle, protection for the finish, room for binocs, rangefinder, shooting sticks, snacks, water etc.

Probably a more expensive way to accomplish your task, but just a thought.

Best
GWB

I had a chance to mic the barrel. It measures 1.0" at the muzzle and 1.068" just forward of the intersection where it transitions from octagon to round. I think I have decided to go with a screw on swivel stud. Plenty of meat to drill and tap. Now I'm on the hunt for a nice looking screw on stud.

Kerry, do you have any photos or examples of what you were looking to make a run of.

I'll have to draw something up. I though I had pictures or a set I made a little while back. I guess I forgot to take pictures.
It's just a copy of the Dakota sling swivel base with a contoured bottom to fit the barrel and with smaller screws

Or you or I could get a set of Dakota sling swivel bases and I can cut the contour for you pretty simple and cheep.

Why don´t just solder a swivel stud on the barrel ? It´s very common way in older german rifles and never seen any problems with that.