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I don't mind betting on other people's stupidity. I've bought and sold TLSA three times and made enough to buy one of their silly vehicles, but that ain't gonna happen.


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Noted recent post on vehicle reliability.
TESLA was at the bottom on the list.
Below Range Rover and Audi (OUCH).
For a vehicle with about 1/3 of the moving parts of a gas powered vehicle it is embarrassing.
Again (Below Audi and Range Rover)!!!!

The Bad Boy buggies had not put much of a dent in the gas UTV market.

I do believe it is a matter time.
Looking forward to when nuclear fusion is perfected and the need for fossil fuels is diminished / reduced.
 
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It's what happens when snowflakes attempt to build a vehicle...


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What’ll they do with the batteries when they go bad? Landfill?
 
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It’s Rivian

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k7rKsZZPT1Y

This is one well designed recreational truck.

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NOT!

Maybe sell a few to the yuppie concrete 4WD crowd who's tires never leave the pavement just so they can claim to be "hip". But hard core good old boy hunters?

I say again ... NOT!!

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Todd hit it right on the head! That thing is interesting to look at but I certainly would not take that thing in the places I hunt. There are some things that suit the folks who never leave the pavement, or country gravel roads, but the picture at the top of this thread with that jeep in a rock gully is what a REAL off road vehicle has to be able to negotiate, not the parking lot of the football field ! oldMacD37 thumbdown


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Not for “Good ol boys”? (now the Dukes of Hazzard song is in my head) What about the Jeep 4XE? It is a gas and electric hybrid that can be both or either powered.


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I haven't needed to buy another truck in many years but was talking to a friend tonight whose son was looking for another knock-around truck + it seems the going rate these days for the 80s series is about 6-8K for trucks that DON'T RUN. I don't get it.


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Any of these electric trucks would have become a stationary flower pot on our November Bison hunt in Delta Junction. Just sayin'


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I don’t take my f-150 off road. It is perfectly capable but I don’t want to beat up a $60k truck. So I hunt in my hunting buddy’s Subaru.

After 100k miles I will get a brush guard and go beat up my truck. But till 100k miles it is a luxury commuter vechile.

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Mike, when your Ford get's 100K miles on it, it will be time to get a new one!

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I owned 5 Fords in my lifetime. Each one was a total LEMON. I'm a slow learner!! Do they still give you a good set of walking shoes with the purchase of a Ford? Good investment. The shoes, that is.

All of a sudden I get it. I get it!! You're interested in Tesla because of the Ford experience. Hell, I would even buy a Tesla before buying another Ford and you know my thought on Musk and his government handout scam.

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In the 70s I swore by Chevys, + owned quite a few. Today I'm driving a rice burner Nissan small P.U. that has been very serviceable. But to give the devil his due, what I can say about the Ford trucks that I have owned over the years, "They have NEVER left me on the side of the road."


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Anywhere diesel is used. Battery electric won’t replace or complete for it. Electric does not really compete with diesel regardless of the hype in the battery market.

All new electric pickups

https://www.caranddriver.com/n...ctric-pickup-trucks/

All new electric vehicles

https://www.caranddriver.com/n...lectric-cars-trucks/

The capital that rivian has raised

https://www.investors.com/news...pping-investor-ford/

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Ford is thinking of modular generators

https://www.caranddriver.com/n...er-ev-pickup-patent/

Turning a Plug in Hybrid around 180 degrees but keeping a option of recharging batteries via gasoline or diesel or hydrogen.

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GM going electric

https://www.gm.com/commitments...AvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Japan going electric

https://asia.nikkei.com/Busine...lectric-vehicle-goal

Tesla

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/1...rs-combined-why.html

I personally think Tesla is a bubble.

I am not short it but I short some other battery companies.

Exxon that was most anti climate change is moving towards climate change

https://www.wsj.com/articles/e...missions-11614787892


I personally think a lot of money will be made in refining, renewable diesel ect and guess (won’t bet) lots of money will be lost in electric vehicle companies (Tesla).

But electric is here. Maybe less in us but will dominate Europe, Japan and maybe China. I guess 30-40 percent of cars in 2030 will be electric in the US.

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We need to stop seeing electric as a one size fits all deal. High density car cities, sure, refine and perfect them for metro areas and short commuters. I’m not trusting a battery in the backcountry. Or on a long trip- a 7-minute refill vs. an 8-hour recharge? No thanks.

And wait until tbe charging grid is expanded...you think those recharge rates won’t go up?


When Tesla (the guy) was talking with Westinghouse about harnessing the earths power to distribute to people, Westinghouse asked, “Where do you put the meter?”

Electric will be the new gas...
 
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We need to stop seeing electric as a one size fits all deal. High density car cities, sure, refine and perfect them for metro areas and short commuters. I’m not trusting a battery in the backcountry. Or on a long trip- a 7-minute refill vs. an 8-hour recharge? No thanks.

And wait until tbe charging grid is expanded...you think those recharge rates won’t go up?


When Tesla (the guy) was talking with Westinghouse about harnessing the earths power to distribute to people, Westinghouse asked, “Where do you put the meter?”

Electric will be the new gas...


agree 100 percent

if you read what the European auto guys are saying about electric. they moving to smaller lighter cheaper shorter range batteries. to most consumers of electric vehicles - there is no difference between 200 mil and 400 mil battery range.

i expect there to be a ton of good relatively cheap electric vehicles soon.

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you probably will see a lot of these driving around on the roads soon.

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It’s amazing that under the guise of ergonomics and efficiency people are turned into automatons.

“Walk 2.5 meters, turn left 60 dsgrees. Extend arm and grasp item. Turn right 60 degrees...”


I used to work for a routing and scheduling software company back in the early 90s. Our only competitor was UPS. One of the most effective time saving parameters we had? Eliminate left hand turns.
 
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In the 70s I swore by Chevys, + owned quite a few. Today I'm driving a rice burner Nissan small P.U. that has been very serviceable. But to give the devil his due, what I can say about the Ford trucks that I have owned over the years, "They have NEVER left me on the side of the road."


LOL. If a FORD never left you on the side of the road broken down, you didn't drive it much!

FOUND ON ROAD DEAD!!!
 
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