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DIY running deer target system?
24 July 2020, 02:13
Bill/OregonDIY running deer target system?
I am looking into what it takes to run moving targets. It can obviously be done with some guy hauling on a rope and pulley system I am thinking of both a perpendicular crossing target system and a "charging" target system where the target rushes toward the shooter's position. It would also be nice to be able to rig a turning target system.
Has anyone here built or operated any of these, powered or non-powered?
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24 July 2020, 03:29
HannaySome (7) years ago, there was a discussion of running moose ranges in Sweden. I posted some photos and a video.
http://forums.accuratereloadin...861034881#9861034881
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How to post photos on AR 24 July 2020, 03:51
HannayNow that I think of it, I have some behind-the-scenes photos of a running boar set-up that is a little simpler than the running moose system. Let me know if you're interested, and I'll post them.
Reindeer & Geese, Iceland, 2023 Plains Game, Eastern Cape, 2023 Buff - Zambezi Valley, Zimbabwe, 2022 Muskox-Greenland, 2020 Roe buck and muntjac in England, 2019 Unkomaas Valley, RSA, 2019 Kaokoland, Namibia, 2017 Wild boar hunting in Sweden, 2016 Moose hunting in Sweden, 2014
How to post photos on AR 24 July 2020, 04:55
Mike_DettorreBill,
Contact the guy who runs the Safari Challenge in Libby, MT. He has all kinds of set-ups.
Mike
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2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
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8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
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Check the April 1957 issue of "Guns" magazine. It shows a photo of the running deer trolley rig used in the 1956 Melbourne Olympics. (The Russians cleaned up with rifles built on Ross actions.) I can't post photos, or I'd put it up or send it to you.
If you don't want to lay down some tube rails and a berm, you could run the target frame hung from a taut cable, although Murphy's Law dictates that some gonzo spaz is bound to shoot out the cable sooner or later. Movement can be imparted by an inverted pulley block system (short drop, heavy weight, converted to long travel).
24 July 2020, 19:31
Bill/OregonThanks fellas. Hannay, that was great thread you linked to. Anything we put together here will be much, much cruder!
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24 July 2020, 21:12
HannayThis system, also in Sweden, is quite a bit simpler, though it would still take a significant amount of work to build.
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How to post photos on AR 05 August 2020, 19:32
lpankratzGrowing up in South Dakota we trained on our running shots by putting cardboard inside of tires and rolling them down large pasture hills. Quite the challenge as a youngster but you soon got the feeling of it. My first deer rifle was an open sighted 300 savage lever and I got quite accurate with that setup. It was hard switching to a scoped rifle when I got older.
06 August 2020, 18:15
Bill/OregonI've heard of this ... and forgot all about it. Thanks for the prompt!
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06 August 2020, 20:56
nopride2quote:
Growing up in South Dakota we trained on our running shots by putting cardboard inside of tires and rolling them down large pasture hills. Quite the challenge as a youngster but you soon got the feeling of it
Did that in the '50s. On the right hill the tire bounces like a running deer.
Dave
20 August 2020, 18:39
Mike Rayyears ago saw a video on tv by Dick Idol with a set up using a weedeater to move the target mounted on a cable
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20 August 2020, 20:01
cdsxquote:
Originally posted by Mike Ray:
years ago saw a video on tv by Dick Idol with a set up using a weedeater to move the target mounted on a cable
Weedeater? That sounds like a pretty fast-moving target! I've had great success building different machines using treadmill motors. Plenty of power, and they're designed for variable speeds.
11 December 2020, 20:57
enyI used mechanical cow for training cutting horses
"cow cutter"
03 January 2021, 06:40
ledvmThis^^^
They are fairly economical. They are everywhere in our part of the country.
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15 January 2021, 06:22
LongwalkerI have an idea for a couple of horizontally mounted bicycle rims, mounted a couple meters high on poles with cross arms like an old style power line. Mount wheels rims under the cross arm with a lag bolt acting as an axle and up into the cross arm. With gears on one of the rims, and a old chain drive garage door opener connected to the hub gears. A cable could be run around the rims like a clothesline. A target suspended on two drop cables would easily go around the rim and back the other way. Simple. Variable speed. Cheap. Remote control. Still have to build it though.