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Originally posted by Wstrnhuntr:
Tell him to look for a bushnell elite target 10X40. Not exactly recommended for 1000 yds, but that is about as inexpensive as they get with reliable, repeatable turret adjustments and it will be capable of anything his rifle is capable of.

I have a new Elite 4200 (3-12x44) for sale in the classifieds.....just sayin'

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Originally posted by Ray B:
The answer is: It depends. It depends on if he is shooting at "only" 1,000 yards. If so, there is no need for BDC cams, since he can sight the rifle for 1,000 yards and be done with it. Extreme adjustment is also not necessary because he can get mounts that add a few minutes to the scope angle. With that in mind, and if he is not limited by competitive rules, I'd consider a 24 or 36x Leupold to be highly desirable.

True enough but after a day of trying to hit anything at 1000 yds with a bone stock Remington BDL or ADL I bet he starts shooting at things a LOT closer.

I know that will bring lots of tales about that one BDL that would, but probabilities for this one seem small

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Originally posted by tiggertate:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ray B:
The answer is: It depends. It depends on if he is shooting at "only" 1,000 yards. If so, there is no need for BDC cams, since he can sight the rifle for 1,000 yards and be done with it. Extreme adjustment is also not necessary because he can get mounts that add a few minutes to the scope angle. With that in mind, and if he is not limited by competitive rules, I'd consider a 24 or 36x Leupold to be highly desirable.

True enough but after a day of trying to hit anything at 1000 yds with a bone stock Remington BDL or ADL I bet he starts shooting at things a LOT closer.

Very true. My opinion exactly. My guess is that in less than 20 rds. the reality will start to set in.

I know that will bring lots of tales about that one BDL that would, but probabilities for this one seem small

Some of these new shooters are having the wool pulled over their eyes by hunting videos on TV that in reality are just trying to sell something. They need to get out from in front of that TV and go out to the range and do some shooting.

The latest American Rifleman has an article on a weathermeter and a Bushnell Elite rangefinder which talk to each other, simplfying the calculations for a firing solution. Expensive, but certainly making things simpler for the inexperienced long range shooter.
Peter.

Thanks guys, I appreciate the information. I don't know long range shooting. The longest shot I've made was on a blue wildebeest that my laser rangefinger couldn't read, and that was supposed to read animals at 450 yards.....

6.5-20x50mm Leupold...

SWFA makes a decent 10x42 fixed power scope for not much money.

http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-10x42-...flescope-P53712.aspx

He needs to figure out whether he wants a mil-mil or moa-moa scope.

Joe

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Originally posted by Joe Henderson:
SWFA makes a decent 10x42 fixed power scope for not much money.

http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-10x42-...flescope-P53712.aspx

He needs to figure out whether he wants a mil-mil or moa-moa scope.

Joe

Yep the fixed 10 is a good scope...I like the bushnell elite LR hunter scopes too they can be had below $1500 dollars, you can even find the burris XTR II scopes for less than $1250...good scopes decent glass for well under 3000 to 4000 dollars...

How about irons? A friend from Austin, Texas with his M14.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...sX4&feature=youtu.be

I was the shooter. I was told about the match, and decided to sign up and dragged along a couple of my buddies who formerly shot for the military teams. We were surprised when we were told the plate measures 18 x 24. The carrot was a hat embroidered "Iron Sight 1000 Yards" if any iron sight shooter hits it once, plus gift card to the winner. Match rule, 1 sighter and 10 shots for record I got lucky I managed 6 hits.

The 18 inch wide steel plate was like aiming at a needle in relative proportion to the front sight

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Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
6.5-20x50mm Leupold...

X2 50mm Vari III

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Originally posted by OTTOMATIC:

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Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
6.5-20x50mm Leupold...

X2 50mm Vari III

X3 50mm Vari III
& a 4.5-14X40 on my .300 Winchester Mag

Keep in mind that the X ring at 1000yds. is just some 10" and it is hit quite regularly in such matches with micrometer "peep" sight systems. Palma matches, no optics and only the lowly 308 caliber qualifies for the 8,9,and 1000yd targets. You get 45 chances to attain your ticket to fame and fortune, few make it.

Tell him to look at the scopes offered by Kenton Industries or he can retro-fit a turret from them on a scope he has bought...

www.kentonindustries.com

BWW is having his moving sale, and sold me his Vortex Viper scope. VHS-4310m 6-24 x50 30mm tube. This is my second scope with side focus, and I really like it.

If you shop a little, you can find one for $700 or a bit less.

Rich