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Posts: 431 | Location: Wyoming/ Idaho, St Joe river | Registered: 17 November 2005Reply With Quote
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The last couple of episodes have been shoving Global Warming/Climate Change down my throat. Every one of the stars has been consistent in mentioning and embellishing this as FACT. I'm done watching! Told my wife to stop recording this and have deleted all the old ones. Now there is NOTHING on the tube worth inconveniencing any electrons for, besides I don't want to contribute to global warming/climate change by wasting the electricity. Guess you guys are stuck with me here on the 'net


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Don't you have some wolves to hunt?
 
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I also quit watching it. The over dramatization of every little thing drove me crazy.


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REALITY

Exactly what reality TV shows are not about.

Alaska became very popular on the reality TV show circuit. I live in Alaska. When Joyce and I travel the first thing people ask us is “oh do you watch” ..... about Alaska?

No we don’t. None of it is real. Don’t waste your time.


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every single episode of Nature on pbs and the blue planet-2 on BBC have gone the same route.
they start out like the old shows but turn into carbon footprint infomercials half way through.
I can't stand to watch either of them either.
 
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No we don’t. None of it is real. Don’t waste your time.


I have seen two episodes.

I decide the above after the first
 
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Don’t watch it much anymore, but ate ear the global warming crap. Don’t need that. I watched less when Chip and his family became more preevelant. He is just strange. Plus their hunting ethics leave a lot to be desired. I realize it’s subsistence hunting, but when his wife just throws bullets or tries to shoot seals from a moving boat with birdshot, it’s just gives all hunters a bad name. Although if the show is run by climate change libs, that might be the intent. I did like the young guy with the big nose. He was a bit dramatic but I liked him.


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Remember all their hunting is edited and what we see may or may not be “ reality”. Also shooting seals with birdshot is a common practice. Putting holes in a seals nasal keeps them from being able to dive and remain under water and easier to get a boat up on to harpoon and retrieve. Some will water skip a .22 thru the side of a seals nose to get the same effect.
Subsistance hunting shouldn’t be compared with sport hunting and it’s “ethics”, look at it more like a wolf killing to survive, it is sometimes dirty but you use and do whatever you have to get that food.


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My point was showing it on TV to non hunters taints ALL hunters in the minds of the anti s.

Plus, Chip is just strange anyway.


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He’s family to me so I’m bias. Plus I’m from a village so I also have a soft spot. But I see your point.


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I have watched it since the beginning and enjoyed it. I know the difference between sport and subsistence hunting and all the folks on the program have my respect. Would go hunting/fishing/firewood cutting with any of them and enjoy getting to know them. My beef is with the obviously liberal producers jumping on the global warming bandwagon. Yep, I'm a "doubter" and suspect that "global warming aka climate change" is just another way for our benevolent masters to get us to open our wallets. Won't buy any products advertised on their show either!
 
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REALITY

Exactly what reality TV shows are not about.

Alaska became very popular on the reality TV show circuit. I live in Alaska. When Joyce and I travel the first thing people ask us is “oh do you watch” ..... about Alaska?

No we don’t. None of it is real. Don’t waste your time.


Hahaaaa.....precisely why I watch nothing concerning the medical field....particularly plastic surgery. Reality TV truly does a disservice to reality.
 
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My sister and her family watch all that junk. The Mountain Men.

She thinks the Silas guy is fake.

She doesn't believe me when I tell her they are all fake and full of bullshit.
 
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I used to watch Yukon Men, but when the kid shows up with a $14,000 snowmobile and 2 or 3 people had $3000 rifles I thought, yep this is bullshit.
 
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Farbedo asked, don't I have some wolves to hunt? Yes I do, and lions, too. Here's one I tagged on 11-25 last month[IMG]https://www.jpgbox.com/jpg/58593_600x400.jpg"> [/IMG]
 
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I know a guy pretty well who used to be on the show. I have been on a sheep hunt based out of the Kavik River Camp. I got to meet Sue and I had a long conversation with her.

They were filming while I was there. It took me about 30 seconds to realize a lot of it is staged. This confirmed what Erik Salitan had personally told me.


I will say this about Sue. She was incredibly alert to the wildlife. A goose sounding off as it would fly by would instantly get her attention as an example.

I still enjoy the show. I do find some a bit more unique than others.
 
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havent watched it in years but pretty good recent interview with Glen. some good stories and a little info on how its filmed, etc...


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Good thing I shoot better than post pictures. Can't figure this out. Lion is putting in a cold hard winter in our freezer. The outside part of him at the taxidermist waiting to be a full body mount.
 
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After I finished watching Life Below Zero, I watched the series, NORSEMEN; on Netflix. It's only 3 seasons and I didn't like the way it ended, but you will see.
I highly recommend it.
Totally historic and accurate depiction of the way the Vikings livcd.
Totally, just like Life Below Zero in Alaska. Without politics.
 
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every single episode of Nature on pbs and the blue planet-2 on BBC have gone the same route.
they start out like the old shows but turn into carbon footprint infomercials half way through.
I can't stand to watch either of them either.


Agree, David Attenborough used to be music to my ears. Even with all editing and piecing together. Now not so much
 
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X2. TV Reality shows are for the intellectually challenged. Big Grin

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He’s family to me so I’m bias. Plus I’m from a village so I also have a soft spot. But I see your point.


Well chit cuz, cut me a deal on a hunt..


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After I finished watching Life Below Zero, I watched the series, NORSEMEN; on Netflix. It's only 3 seasons and I didn't like the way it ended, but you will see.
I highly recommend it.
Totally historic and accurate depiction of the way the Vikings livcd.
Totally, just like Life Below Zero in Alaska. Without politics.


'Life Below Zero' was great show! That Glenn Villenevue is a real bear & moose killer.

Better still are the episodes of 'Buying Alaska.' ... Real Alaskans 'seeking to get a small stake of the Alaskan experience.'

rotflmo Gotta love that hook line!

Last show I saw (a re-run) featured a pretty black-haired gal who turned out to be the former Miss Alaska and her husband. He's in the Mil service and stationed up there.

Still, the best series was always 'The Last Alaskans.' Bob Harte (R.I.P.) really made that series shine.

Unlike some of the bush-people wannabes living in Wasilla. Roll Eyes


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Well since Chip got out of prison, his role has changed for sure!!


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After I finished watching Life Below Zero, I watched the series, NORSEMEN; on Netflix. It's only 3 seasons and I didn't like the way it ended, but you will see.
I highly recommend it.
Totally historic and accurate depiction of the way the Vikings livcd.
Totally, just like Life Below Zero in Alaska. Without politics.


'Life Below Zero' was great show! That Glenn Villenevue is a real bear & moose killer.

Better still are the episodes of 'Buying Alaska.' ... Real Alaskans 'seeking to get a small stake of the Alaskan experience.'

rotflmo Gotta love that hook line!

Last show I saw (a re-run) featured a pretty black-haired gal who turned out to be the former Miss Alaska and her husband. He's in the Mil service and stationed up there.

Still, the best series was always 'The Last Alaskans.' Bob Harte (R.I.P.) really made that series shine.

Unlike some of the bush-people wannabes living in Wasilla. Roll Eyes


The Last Alaskans was the best. Unfortunately,it was not renewed.
 
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Come and plunk your butt down in any off the road system village for awhile and you'll soon find out what life up there is really like. It isn't very romantic in any way, shape or manner. It can be quite good though if you have the right attitude. It was for me.

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Come and plunk your butt down in any off the road system village for awhile and you'll soon find out what life up there is really like. It isn't very romantic in any way, shape or manner. It can be quite good though if you have the right attitude. It was for me.

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'Life Below Zero' was great show! That Glenn Villenevue is a real bear & moose killer.

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Glenn was dropped from the show before the last season over dispute relating to creative direction of the story line, he wanted one thing they wanted another.

I used to watch and enjoy am Alaska show about a village that was only accessible by boat. It was on for about 4 seasons. I liked that one, seemed somewhat realistic.


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Alaskan reality TV shows are no different than professional wrestling. They are entertainment for the masses, aimed at the lowest common denominator!


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Alaskan reality TV shows are no different than professional wrestling. They are entertainment for the masses, aimed at the lowest common denominator!


That is an understatement!! tu2
 
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Alaskan reality TV shows are no different than professional wrestling. They are entertainment for the masses, aimed at the lowest common denominator!


That is an understatement!! tu2


And I might add
Funded, I mean subsidized, by a state with no taxes and quickly running out of money !


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Alaskan reality TV shows are no different than professional wrestling. They are entertainment for the masses, aimed at the lowest common denominator!


That is an understatement!! tu2


And I might add
Funded, I mean subsidized, by a state with no taxes and quickly running out of money !


Phil,


I’m not sure what the subsidy adds up to but a bet a lot of folks visit Alaska because of those shows. Joyce and I are on another extended road trip in the lower 48 and as soon as anyone sees our plates and start a conversation the very first thing they tell you is the list of 907 reality shows they watch. It’s like crack cocaine to some of these folks. They always look let down when you answer “none” to their question about which ones we watch.

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The Last Alaskans was pretty good.

I have never met Heimo Korth, but I read a book about him and watched several other documentaries on him over the years.

I have lived in Barrow, Sitka, Anchorage and Fairbanks.

I know I have never lived true bush life, like those that live in places without grocery stores, and such but I think I have a pretty good idea what it is like.

The majority of the shows about Alaska are soap operas.
 
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Remember all their hunting is edited and what we see may or may not be “ reality”. Also shooting seals with birdshot is a common practice. Putting holes in a seals nasal keeps them from being able to dive and remain under water and easier to get a boat up on to harpoon and retrieve. Some will water skip a .22 thru the side of a seals nose to get the same effect.


Subsistance hunting shouldn’t be compared with sport hunting and it’s “ethics”, look at it more like a wolf killing to survive, it is sometimes
dirty but you use and do whatever you have to
get that food.


Subsistence hunting ,at least, to me is off a sled pulled by dogs not a snowmobile, a boat propelled via oars not a 90 HP Merc, as was the norm of the day when it was acceptible. Something galls my ass about seeing someone motor up along side of swimming caribou and shooting them with a .22. I have absolutely no issue if you do it the "old" ways, then fine but to use all the modern tech stuff to fill your Sears Kenmore freezer is nothing less than a ruse allowed to continue by the feel good Liberals.
 
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Subsistence hunting ,at least, to me is off a sled pulled by dogs not a snowmobile, a boat propelled via oars not a 90 HP Merc, as was the norm of the day when it was acceptible. Something galls my ass about seeing someone motor up along side of swimming caribou and shooting them with a .22. I have absolutely no issue if you do it the "old" ways, then fine but to use all the modern tech stuff to fill your Sears Kenmore freezer is nothing less than a ruse allowed to continue by the feel good Liberals.


Your opinion of subsistence hunting is shared by many people who have had little contact with people who live a subsistence lifestyle.

I lived in a village that was only accessible by air. The 400 or so people living there were mostly Inupiaq and they were only the second generation to live in that village year round. Prior to that(1950) the villagers were still living a nomadic lifestyle, following the caribou through much of their seasonal migration via dogsled.

Shortly after 1950 this band of Inupiaq settled in what is now the site of the current village. They settled here so that a school could be built and their children could be educated. For years they still traveled by dog sled to access hunting and fishing. During the Summer they would leave the village and use their dogs as pack animals while they fished, hunted, berry picked and collected plants and roots for food.

By the 1970s there were a few snow machines in the village but most all hunting was done traveling by dogsled. Then the caribou population crashed due to factors that had nothing to do with hunting pressure. By emergency order new rules were put into place. One of these new rules made it illegal to feed caribou to dogs. With the cost of flying in dog food being out of the question the days of the dog sled were finished for this village. The only alternative was the snow machine in the cold months and 6 and 8 wheeled ATVs in the summer. Of course it took cash to buy these machines and fuel was costly so manny villagers took whatever job they could find. With jobs their was less time for hunting so they were forced to use the most efficient means possible.

So today the only people who have experience with dog sleds are elders who are mostly past their hunting years. There are no sleds, few dogs, and no one to run the sleds anyway. In other words, there is no going back.

Yet these people still rely on caribou, fish, berries and plants that they collect for food. Having lived with them I can tell you that those natural traditional foods mean a lot more to them than just the calories they provide. Those foods are who they are, their language, their ancestors, they themselves as people. To take that away from them would be like taking a family off the farm that they had run for generations and dropping them in a Chicago high rise apartment building.

It’s hard to put into words the importance that these foods have in their culture. They cannot be replaced with store bought foods. It is hard to explain because most of us lost these meaningful connections with our food many generations ago and the connections we have with food are largely symbolic feasts such as Thanksgiving and Christmas.

Consider for a moment the importance of foods your family prepares and eats at Thanksgiving. Now imaging you were forced to replace the turkey and other foods with fast food from McDonalds. Would the holiday lose it’s symbolic meaning if the turkey, stuffing and gravy was replaced with chicken McNuggets, fries and barbecue sauce?

Now try to understand that for the villagers everyday is Thanksgiving.

So before you try to constrain their subsistence activities to the aesthetics that you find acceptable, try talking your family into doing Thanksgiving at McDonalds next year. Until then let’s leave the “handicaping” to the archery hunters and muzzle loader hunters and allow the subsistence hunter to do what they need to do to collect the foods that they have been collecting and eating since way back when your ancestors were still hunting and gathering their food.


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Subsistence hunting ,at least, to me is off a sled pulled by dogs not a snowmobile, a boat propelled via oars not a 90 HP Merc, as was the norm of the day when it was acceptible. Something galls my ass about seeing someone motor up along side of swimming caribou and shooting them with a .22. I have absolutely no issue if you do it the "old" ways, then fine but to use all the modern tech stuff to fill your Sears Kenmore freezer is nothing less than a ruse allowed to continue by the feel good Liberals.


Your opinion of subsistence hunting is shared by many people who have had little contact with people who live a subsistence lifestyle.

I lived in a village that was only accessible by air. The 400 or so people living there were mostly Inupiaq and they were only the second generation to live in that village year round. Prior to that(1950) the villagers were still living a nomadic lifestyle, following the caribou through much of their seasonal migration via dogsled.

Shortly after 1950 this band of Inupiaq settled in what is now the site of the current village. They settled here so that a school could be built and their children could be educated. For years they still traveled by dog sled to access hunting and fishing. During the Summer they would leave the village and use their dogs as pack animals while they fished, hunted, berry picked and collected plants and roots for food.

By the 1970s there were a few snow machines in the village but most all hunting was done traveling by dogsled. Then the caribou population crashed due to factors that had nothing to do with hunting pressure. By emergency order new rules were put into place. One of these new rules made it illegal to feed caribou to dogs. With the cost of flying in dog food being out of the question the days of the dog sled were finished for this village. The only alternative was the snow machine in the cold months and 6 and 8 wheeled ATVs in the summer. Of course it took cash to buy these machines and fuel was costly so manny villagers took whatever job they could find. With jobs their was less time for hunting so they were forced to use the most efficient means possible.

So today the only people who have experience with dog sleds are elders who are mostly past their hunting years. There are no sleds, few dogs, and no one to run the sleds anyway. In other words, there is no going back.

Yet these people still rely on caribou, fish, berries and plants that they collect for food. Having lived with them I can tell you that those natural traditional foods mean a lot more to them than just the calories they provide. Those foods are who they are, their language, their ancestors, they themselves as people. To take that away from them would be like taking a family off the farm that they had run for generations and dropping them in a Chicago high rise apartment building.

It’s hard to put into words the importance that these foods have in their culture. They cannot be replaced with store bought foods. It is hard to explain because most of us lost these meaningful connections with our food many generations ago and the connections we have with food are largely symbolic feasts such as Thanksgiving and Christmas.

Consider for a moment the importance of foods your family prepares and eats at Thanksgiving. Now imaging you were forced to replace the turkey and other foods with fast food from McDonalds. Would the holiday lose it’s symbolic meaning if the turkey, stuffing and gravy was replaced with chicken McNuggets, fries and barbecue sauce?

Now try to understand that for the villagers everyday is Thanksgiving.

So before you try to constrain their subsistence activities to the aesthetics that you find acceptable, try talking your family into doing Thanksgiving at McDonalds next year. Until then let’s leave the “handicaping” to the archery hunters and muzzle loader hunters and allow the subsistence hunter to do what they need to do to collect the foods that they have been collecting and eating since way back when your ancestors were still hunting and gathering their food.


All makes for good reading BUT one cannot overlook the fact that often times the subsistence hunter lives in a bigger town holds an oil field job all week long then uses his families bloodline to ride his ATV out to the caribou herd and pop himself a few easy meals. It occurs you know it I know it and so does millions of others. I'm not confusing sport hunting with subsistence food gathering, I also have lived there and done that too and seen it with my own eyes.If you cannot trace your heritage back far enough to get oil payments so you can drink it up (or snort it up their noses) take every free handout for gas, oil, food, medical etc. offered by today's ignorant Liberal politicos, Then go out and collect spring waterfowl eggs from nests under the ruse of subsistence life style. Again I have lived there and seen that too often to count. SO HAVE YOU if you're honest.
 
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All makes for good reading BUT one cannot overlook the fact that often times the subsistence hunter lives in a bigger town holds an oil field job all week long then uses his families bloodline to ride his ATV out to the caribou herd and pop himself a few easy meals.


I’m currently living in a bigger town and I know people who hold oil field jobs and do subsistence hunt to feed their families. They don’t hunt because they can’t buy food, they hunt to provide their family with their traditional foods. From my perspective I see these guys as having a foot in two worlds: one holds a job to pay the bills and the other is collecting traditional foods that his people have since the beginning of time. I have no problem with that.

Do you feel that anyone who earns a paycheck should not be allowed to subsistence Hunt?

And I highlighted the part in red because I’m not sure what you are getting at. Subsistence hunting is open to all rural residents of Alaska regardless of race/color/religion. The only people excluded from subsistence hunting are those who live in the Anchorage, Fairbanks and Juneau metropolitan areas.

Can you explain what bloodlines have to do with it?


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When I lived there my traditional food was wild game, still is today same as my father's was his father's before him, etc. etc. But I had to follow game laws. Not so with the dopers, boozer I worked with of native blood who aborted up their pay checks then fell back on traditional family lifestyle to kill game year round just because they could. Fed it to their dogs ( pregnant cow bou) cause it was cheaper than buying dog food.
 
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Jason,

Everything you said is fine in theory. What turns people off is the enormous waist of wildlife that is associated with the reality of "subsistence" hunting and fishing. When you go to the dump in the spring and see hundreds of pounds of wrapped meat and fish piled up and rotting to make room for the new years "harvest" it makes you a little nauseated. I could come up with a boatload of other examples that I witnessed in my 22 years in the bush.

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