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I have been thinking of taking 2 .375 H&H rifles with me to Africa. One with a scope and one with a red-dot sight. Outfitters in Zim I know well...say it is no problem there. Why do we hear that we are not allowed to do this? Is it SA that is the problem? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | ||
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Yes. I have been taking two identical rifles to both Zimbabwe and Tanzania for many years. No problems at all. South Africa seems to have a knack of annoying hunters. | |||
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Yes My understanding is that no one person can bring in 2guns of the same caliber. Stupid rule but it is what it is! | |||
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My question is: who’s rule is it? Zimbabwe outfitters say it is not a problem in Zimbabwe. Is it RSA that is the problem? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Yes it’s South Africa’s policy. If you are only transiting Jberg then you should be ok. If overnighting and doing the SAPS 520 you will be screwed! | |||
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Lane, You just need a letter from the safari operator explaining why you need the other rifle. Gracy Travel or TWG can assist. Without the letter you will be in hot water if you pick up your guns and kit in JNB. Mark MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | |||
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I talked to Debbie Gracy about it and she was not certain about the answer and would not tell me yes or no with out researching. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Lane, All I can tell you is it has worked before and Christy who handles all gun related issues with Gracy is who I got the information from. Mark MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | |||
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Lee, I'm trying to get some current clarification on this myself. I will get back. Mark MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | |||
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Lane: It can be done but I believe the temporary permit has to come fom the Central Registry in Pretoria, not from the SAPS office at JNB. From SAPS: An application for more than one firearm of the same calibre The Registrar may in good cause shown, issue a permit in respect of more than one firearm per calibre to a person who will be using the firearms for the under mentioned purpose: to a foreign visitor for the purpose of hunting to a foreign visitor to display the firearm and ammunition at a trade show or collectors show or to display firearms or ammunition at a sport of hunting trade show. To a foreign visitor to participate in a competitive sport shooting event organised by recognised business, hunting, sport-shooting or collectors organisation. Karl Evans | |||
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Thanks for that Karl. All I want to do is get to Zimbabwe with my 2 .375 H&H rifles. One set up with lighted reticle scope and one set up with a Trijicon RM06 red-dot sight for close and follow-up work. Apparently it is no problem in Zimbabwe and if checked through...shouldn’t pose a problem. That said...Debbie has gotten me liking this overnighting in Joberg at City Lodge and leaving fresh to Vic Falls the following morning. This seems a lot of hassle just to spend 12 hours in Joberg. Christy at Gracy Travel is researching for me and will report. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Lane, My wife and I do this each time we transit Johannesburg, not because we want to, it's really our only option. The City Lodge is a nice hotel with a good restaurant, and breakfast is included in the cost of the room. If you want something nicer the Intercontinental is right there at the airport and they have an outstanding restaurant. If you do this get the Meet and Greet service, they get you through the customs line quickly, your guns are a breeze and then they escort you to your room. The next morning Bruce will walk you right back through and get you checked in. The chance for a shower and a good nights sleep after a long flight is nice, and you never really leave the airport. And don't worry about being kept awake all night my the sounds of aircraft, the airport is basically dead after about 8 P.M. | |||
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Use detachable scopes then you only need one rifle
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Lane, I must eat crow. I got a little confused in my old age. It seems there is no practical way to take two rifles of the same caliber through RSA If you are gathering your guns and kit there unless you have a traveling companion with a 4457 indicating the 2nd rifle is theirs. Mark MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | |||
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No need to eat crow, there is a practical way to bring two of the same caliber...just have to get the permit thru the central registrar and not the SAPS office at point of entry. I copied and pasted the verbiage from SAPS in an earlier post. Takes a bit more time but can be done, Air 2000 (and other permitting services can handle). | |||
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Hi Karl, The word from Gracy Travel is that this information is outdated and may not apply any longer. I am just relaying what I was told. Do you know anyone who has accomplished this in the last year? Further...would it even apply to someone in transit? IE: not hunting in RSA...just overnighting? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Yes, we did it this way this last June when we went...very pleasant. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Lane, We are currently in Joburg, just flew in from Beira, Moz. Two other couples are catching flights later tonight and SAA Airlink checked their bags thru to DFW...NO SAPS. We are staying a bit longer so I had to do the SAPS thing. All of the rifle cases came to the police and they said they would have them placed in the correct flight, I specifically asked about that (but their security company had to go on the plane to find my and another guy’s rifles. Had ended up being cargo, or so they said. Good luck! Karl Evans | |||
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Hi Karl, This is what I was told by Gracy’s guy in RSA. “It is currently not possible to get a temporary or in-transit firearm permit for 2xsame calibre at the central firearms register. We have asked for clarification for clients that are in-transit to other countries but still waiting on an answer. I was told to call again tomorrow and will let you know if there is any change.” ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Thanks Lane, Who knows what the “current” policy really is. After all it is Africa. Good luck on your hunt. Karl Evans | |||
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I have received confirmation that it is impossible for one person to take 2 rifles of the same caliber and clear them in RSA. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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RSA firearms import laws are ridiculous. I see no point in this restriction. I’m sure they would ok it if they charged an extra fee like SAA is now doing. I meant to be DSC Member...bad typing skills. Marcus Cady DRSS | |||
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