THE ACCURATERELOADING.COM AFRICAN HUNTING FORUM

Go
New
Find
Notify
Tools
Reply
  
Honest opinions sought
 Login/Join
 
One of Us
Picture of vapodog
posted
What is your opinion on this original acrylic painting?



///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."
Winston Churchill
 
Posts: 28849 | Location: western Nebraska | Registered: 27 May 2003Reply With Quote
One of Us
Picture of Wink
posted Hide Post
I wouldn't buy it, but then I have to be truly impressed to buy art, which usually means I can't afford it.

I think the cat's head looks distorted toward the right.


_________________________________

AR, where the hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history become the nattering nabobs of negativisim.
 
Posts: 7046 | Location: Rambouillet, France | Registered: 25 June 2004Reply With Quote
One of Us
Picture of Jack D Bold
posted Hide Post
Let me get you another martini.


"You only gotta do one thing well to make it in this world" - J Joplin
 
Posts: 1129 | Registered: 10 September 2008Reply With Quote
One of Us
posted Hide Post
here - you ask for an honest opinion here jumping rotflmo dancing shocker jumping animal jumping jumping jumping

it sucks
 
Posts: 13442 | Location: faribault mn | Registered: 16 November 2004Reply With Quote
One of Us
Picture of vapodog
posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by butchloc:
here - you ask for an honest opinion here jumping rotflmo dancing shocker jumping animal jumping jumping jumping

it sucks


Well it seems my future as an artist is not going to be too bright!!!!! rotflmo


///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."
Winston Churchill
 
Posts: 28849 | Location: western Nebraska | Registered: 27 May 2003Reply With Quote
one of us
posted Hide Post
Looks like something a 7th grade art sudent would have done.
 
Posts: 19359 | Location: wis | Registered: 21 April 2001Reply With Quote
One of Us
Picture of Crazyhorseconsulting
posted Hide Post
Honest opinion, you painted it. If you like it and want to keep pursueing painting from time to time go for it.

I have seen a lot worse stuff sell for good money.

Beauty after all is in the eye of the beholder.


Even the rocks don't last forever.



 
Posts: 31014 | Location: Olney, Texas | Registered: 27 March 2006Reply With Quote
One of Us
posted Hide Post
I wouldn't buy it but I'd be happy to say that I painted it.
 
Posts: 2763 | Registered: 11 March 2004Reply With Quote
One of Us
Picture of jjbull
posted Hide Post
Personally, I don't like it.

But it's still LOTS better than I could do.


___________________________________________________________________________________

Give me the simple life; an AK-47, a good guard dog and a nymphomaniac who owns a liquor store.
 
Posts: 817 | Location: Black Hills of South Dakota/Florida's Gulf Coast | Registered: 23 March 2011Reply With Quote
One of Us
Picture of L. David Keith
posted Hide Post
Vapo, all great artists started somewhere. And I'd bet money they didn't produce a master piece their first time on the canvas. For what it's worth, keep painting. I see potential there.
PS: never be discouraged by naysayers. Most could never paint what you produced in a 100 tries. If it's any consulation, here's my first attempt at painting ducks several decades ago. Hell, I was brave enough to enter it into the federal duck stamp competition. Looks like crap but that didn't stop me Big Grin


Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris
http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333
Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com
NRA Benefactor
DSC Professional Member
SCI Member
RMEF Life Member
NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor
NAHC Life Member
Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer
Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt:
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262
Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142
Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007
http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007
16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more:
http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409
Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311
Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added
http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941
10 days in the Stormberg Mountains
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322
Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017
http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232

"Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson

Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running......

"If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you."
 
Posts: 6804 | Location: Tennessee | Registered: 18 December 2006Reply With Quote
One of Us
Picture of vapodog
posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by L. David Keith:
Vapo, all great artists started somewhere. And I'd bet money they didn't produce a master piece their first time on the canvas. For what it's worth, keep painting. I see potential there.
PS: never be discouraged by naysayers. Most could never paint what you produced in a 100 tries. If it's any consulation, here's my first attempt at painting ducks several decades ago. Hell, I was brave enough to enter it into the federal duck stamp competition. Looks like crap but that didn't stop me Big Grin

Hey.....the acid test.....does it look like a duck...?....and yes it does.....

If I tried to paint a duck, it'd look like an alligator.....maybe!... animal


///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."
Winston Churchill
 
Posts: 28849 | Location: western Nebraska | Registered: 27 May 2003Reply With Quote
One of Us
Picture of Rusty
posted Hide Post
Vapodog,
I think it is a good study. If I had done that I would be proud of it.

I'm still trying to get up the nerve to try my hand at some canvas a la Jackson Pollock. Maybe one day. . .


Rusty
We Band of Brothers!
DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member

"I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends."
----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836
"I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841
"for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson
Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.”
 
Posts: 9797 | Location: Missouri City, Texas | Registered: 21 June 2000Reply With Quote
One of Us
posted Hide Post
Vapodog,
if you enjoy doing it i would not give a bugger what anyone else said or thought
and with practice you will improve.
well done it better than most people could produce.
 
Posts: 110 | Location: sydney australia | Registered: 22 May 2005Reply With Quote
One of Us
Picture of BwanaCole
posted Hide Post
Art, like any thing visceral, needs to be experienced to be appreciated. Gustave Klimt, Ansel Adams, Van Gogh, et. al., all look distorted, flat and lifeless online and out of context.

I'm sure that in person it would speak to the viewer much better than a posted snap. Keep it up!


H. Cole Stage III, FRGS
ISC(PJ), USN (Ret)



"You do not have a right to an opinion. An opinion should be the result of careful thought, not an excuse for it."

Harlan Ellison

" War is God's way to teach Americans geography." Ambrose Bierce
 
Posts: 378 | Registered: 28 September 2010Reply With Quote
One of Us
Picture of twoseventy
posted Hide Post
Vapodog, tell me what you want for the painting, I may buy it. I would be the only guy I know who has a painting by an AR artist.

Tom


...I say that hunters go into Paradise when they die, and live in this world more joyfully than any other men.
-Edward, duke of York

". . . when a man has shot an elephant his life is full." ~John Alfred Jordan

"The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance." Cicero - 55 BC

"The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities." - Ayn Rand

Cogito ergo venor- KPete

“It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own self-interest. We address ourselves, not to their humanity but to their self-love, and never talk to them of our own necessities but of their advantages.”
― Adam Smith - “Wealth of Nations”
 
Posts: 985 | Location: Oregon | Registered: 12 June 2009Reply With Quote
One of Us
Picture of SGraves155
posted Hide Post
FWIW, it's better than any of the twenty-something paintings hanging in our hospital. Big Grin


Steve
"He wins the most, who honour saves. Success is not the test." Ryan
"Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." Stalin
Tanzania 06
Argentina08
Argentina
Australia06
Argentina 07
Namibia
Arnhemland10
Belize2011
Moz04
Moz 09
 
Posts: 8100 | Location: NW Arkansas | Registered: 09 July 2005Reply With Quote
One of Us
posted Hide Post
Vapodog,

Please ignore the naysayers. I really like the soft lines of the flora, it is reminiscent of some of Diego Rivera's paintings. The cat, on the other hand, is painted with harder lines and with a different style, which is slightly (ONLY slightly) disconcerting to my eye. But the cat's expression is great. The composition and colors are also great. You should be proud of this painting - I certainly would be. My advice to you - keep painting. You have a LOT of talent.

Glen
 
Posts: 282 | Location: Salt Lake City, Utah | Registered: 20 November 2007Reply With Quote
One of Us
posted Hide Post
I agree with the above post......if you told everyone you bought it at a gallery and that it was painted by a recently deceased master, they'd all be slobbering over it. rotflmo

I guess that's why art's value is in the eye of the beholder(or what he's been told by others it is.....lol). I've seen VERY highly-priced art that I wouldn't put it my garage. I'd have no problem hanging yours in my garage(jk....I think it looks great, all kidding aside).
 
Posts: 2717 | Location: NH | Registered: 03 February 2009Reply With Quote
one of us
posted Hide Post
vapodog, if you painted that you should be proud!
Peter.


Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong;
 
Posts: 10505 | Location: Jacksonville, Florida | Registered: 09 January 2004Reply With Quote
one of us
Picture of JBrown
posted Hide Post
Vapo
I was going to tease you and say that I like it much better than your checkering patterns, but I realized that would be immature....
Big Grin

On a serious note: your painting suffers because the weakest component, the cat, is the first thing that caught my eye the moment I saw the painting.

The depth of field in your painting is outstanding.

And the cat is really not that bad, but is is a bit "off" and the effect is jarring.

The longer I look at your painting the more I like it.


Jason

"You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core."
_______________________

Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt.

Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.

-Jason Brown
 
Posts: 6834 | Location: Nome, Alaska(formerly SW Wyoming) | Registered: 22 December 2003Reply With Quote
one of us
Picture of JBrown
posted Hide Post
P.S. I would really like to see this painting if you reworked the left side of the cat's face/ear.


Jason

"You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core."
_______________________

Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt.

Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.

-Jason Brown
 
Posts: 6834 | Location: Nome, Alaska(formerly SW Wyoming) | Registered: 22 December 2003Reply With Quote
One of Us
posted Hide Post
Stinko. Smiler
 
Posts: 861 | Registered: 17 September 2009Reply With Quote
One of Us
posted Hide Post
Good morning, Mr. Vapodog;

I almost never post on this board and visit it only occasionally. When I do, much of my visit is to look at art and photography. I include most of the guns in that. I admire your courage in hanging yourself all out like this. Let me say up front that I like your work.

Your critics seem to be wanting a photographic representation of the subject. If that is what they want, take a picture for them. If your painting is what you see and/or how you want to say it, fine. Look at some of the most celebrated art work from the present all the way back to the European masters. Or better yet look the "primitives" from several sources. They look like what people want to say, not what someone else expects or wants to see.

One day I was going somewhere with the head of the art department of a sizeable university. We both enjoyed seeing a buzzard someone had posted on his iron gate frame. It was made of an old plow disc, a little sheet iron and some rebar. Neither of us mistook it for a buzzard, but we enjoyed what its maker wanted to say. I've looked at it and enjoyed it for years.

I write fiction. Some folks like it and some don't. But I write for me, not for them. If they like it, so much the better.

If that's what you want to say, say it. When you show the work to someone else, be sure you face it. It's easier to talk about it to the ones that like it and easier for the others to kiss your butt good bye!

Like I said ... I like it. That's the truth. I know it's the truth because I made it up myself and I don't lie.

Be good.

horsefly
 
Posts: 26 | Registered: 13 August 2011Reply With Quote
One of Us
posted Hide Post
Its ok I guess.I wouldnt buy it but I sure as heck dont have the talent you do.I cant hardly write my name! homer
 
Posts: 55 | Registered: 19 January 2007Reply With Quote
one of us
posted Hide Post
Vapo,

You did a nice job on the floral patterns. What kills it is the cats head is crooked. I think you were going for a prescriptive on the cats expression but it just comes across as crooked and poorly drawn.

If you were to straighten out the symmetry on the cat it would increase the quality greatly. Symmetry (or the lack of it in this case) is the number one thing we as humans pick up and find repulsive in a human or animal shape. It's actually a proven human characteristic that we are attracted to symmetry.



 
Posts: 5210 | Registered: 23 July 2002Reply With Quote
One of Us
posted Hide Post
Not my cup o tea...but I couldn't do it that well, or even close to it!!!

Keep painting.


Jeff
 
Posts: 93 | Location: Houston, TX | Registered: 07 November 2010Reply With Quote
One of Us
Picture of friarmeier
posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by vapodog:
What is your opinion on this original acrylic painting?



I like it. I'm no art critic, so I wouldn't have the first idea what it "would be worth" in terms of $$; but then the art market is a fickle bunch, and personal preference/genre seems to rule the day.

As for the painting itself, I like the colors - subtle yet still vivid - and the "shyness" or even meek character of the cat.

That's my 2 cents! hilbily

friar


Our liberties we prize, and our rights we will maintain.
 
Posts: 1222 | Location: A place once called heaven | Registered: 11 January 2005Reply With Quote
one of us
posted Hide Post
Qualifies as Kitsch. Big Grin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitsch

Grizz


Indeed, no human being has yet lived under conditions which, considering the prevailing climates of the past, can be regarded as normal. John E Pfeiffer, The Emergence of Man

Those who can't skin, can hold a leg. Abraham Lincoln

Only one war at a time. Abe Again.
 
Posts: 4211 | Location: Alta. Canada | Registered: 06 November 2002Reply With Quote
one of us
Picture of Bill/Oregon
posted Hide Post
Vapo: I think you have talent. Stick with it. It takes guts to post up and ask for opinions. That says something about you as a person, not just as an artist.
What part of western Nebraska? I think the Sand Hills and the Niobrara Valley are pretty close to paradise.


There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t.
– John Green, author
 
Posts: 16365 | Location: Sweetwater, TX | Registered: 03 June 2000Reply With Quote
One of Us
Picture of tendrams
posted Hide Post
The above positive comment regarding the plant life is spot on. The leaves and flowers are very very nice!
 
Posts: 2472 | Registered: 06 July 2008Reply With Quote
One of Us
posted Hide Post
Vapo
my sister-in-law teaches art & doesn't personally paint as well as you IMHO.

The comment about the symmetry of the cat is spot on.
symmetry in art is a most difficult skill to execute...............which is why paintings of the human form is difficult & so frequently criticised.

overall composition - great
background - great.
delivery of expression in the cat - excellent
( not easy to achieve, but its what gives "life" to a painting)

the only thing that lets the composition down is the symmetry of LHS of the cat's head.........from a viewing perspective.

whether that is a rendition of the actual subject only you know.............irrespective of whether it is an accurate rendition of the animal is irrelevant to the casual viewer..........its asymmetry draws the eye and spoils the overall image.........as the casual viewer has no knowledge of whether the painting intent was a rendition of the real subject or poor execution of symmetry by the painter............the assumption is poor symmetry in execution by the painter.

This comes down to who you are painting it for.
ie
a photograph of a buck with an uneven rack is accepted in a different way by the viewer than a painting depicting the same subject with that uneven rack.
The photograph is automatically accepted as being an accurate depiction of the subject...........the depiction of the same subject in a painting is not afforded the same assumption of true rendition.
This then comes down to the perspective of who you are painting for:-
- another viewer
- yourself, as a rendition of the actual subject with all its foibles.

Painting for others , unless the subject & its foibles is known to them, has an unsatisfactory but necessary requirement for symmetry for acceptance as a skilled rendition.

Sad but true.
 
Posts: 493 | Registered: 01 September 2010Reply With Quote
One of Us
posted Hide Post
A very thoughtful post by DenisB above, and what he says about symmetry in a painting is absolutely true. For another example, if one was to paint a painting of an elephant with one tusk that veers off at an odd or asymmetrical angle to the other tusk, it would be perceived as a mistake by the artist, even if the elephant in real life really did have asymmetrically angled tusks. However, if the tusks came down at identical and symetrical angles in the painting, but one tusk was broken off shorter than the other, then it would neither be considered a freak of nature nor a mistake by the artist, but simply an elephant with a broken tusk, as many are in real life. As DenisB correctly states, asymmetricality is more easily forgiven in a photograph than in a painting.

In your painting, I assumed the asymmetrical face of the cat to be intentional on your part, but because there were no other obvious asymmetricalities in the painting, I didn't consider it to be an abstract painting. On the other hand, if an artist is obviously highly skilled, and if there are many things in his painting which are obviously asymmetrical, or not an accurate representation, then it would be perceived as intentional by the artist, and would be considered an abstract style of painting.
 
Posts: 282 | Location: Salt Lake City, Utah | Registered: 20 November 2007Reply With Quote
One of Us
Picture of Wooly ESS
posted Hide Post
I have been an artist/painter for nearly 20 years, and the longer I struggle with my own limitations, the less critical I am of the work of others. Without knowing you or what you were trying to achieve, it is hard for me to give you an honest critique.

What I can say is bravo for trying, and bravo for posting it.

As far as the asymmetry is concerned, that doesn't bother me at all. Most heads and faces of living creatures are asymmetric to some degree. You have just used your artistic license (intentionally or not) to emphasize it.


The truth will set you free,
but first it's gonna piss you off!
www.ceandersonart.com
 
Posts: 574 | Location: The great plains of southern Alberta | Registered: 11 March 2005Reply With Quote
One of Us
posted Hide Post
I love the foliage; I've wanted to paint a wall with something like that for a long time, but I can't do it. Keep it up; you've got a talent that God didn't bless me with.
 
Posts: 10000 | Location: Houston, Texas | Registered: 26 December 2005Reply With Quote
  Powered by Social Strata  
 


Copyright December 1997-2023 Accuratereloading.com


Visit our on-line store for AR Memorabilia

Since January 8 1998 you are visitor #: