I have almost bought the 9.3 x 62 but i want the `64 big bro.

Is there a lot to do with the conversion,is it a simple re chamber job?

Magazine changes?

Bolt changes?

Is there anything at all thats important to be aware of before I buy a `62 as a donor?

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Originally posted by gryphon1:
I have almost bought the 9.3 x 62 but i want the `64 big bro.

Is there a lot to do with the conversion,is it a simple re chamber job?

Magazine changes?

Bolt changes?

Is there anything at all thats important to be aware of before I buy a `62 as a donor?

The bolt face needs to be enlarged as does the extractor. The magazine will need to be widened and feed rails attended to, and the mag box lengthened.

Not a super hard task, I've converted several as well as building several from standard 98 actions.

Thank you for your reply.I suppose another question to ask is there a better donor calibre to start off with?

Or is there any maker that do the 9.3x64 as a standard?

I have 2x 9.3x64. bought 500 rounds of RWS brass years ago. Have shot many 0f my 9.3x62 against them and discovered that the 9.3x62 loaded to modern pressures nearly equal.I never saw any difference in performance on game. The recoil speed was significantly more than the 62. It is far easier to find components for the 62 than the 64. The 62 is a hoot to shoot.

Yes everything is much easier BUT,I want the `64!

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Originally posted by gryphon1:
Yes everything is much easier BUT,I want the `64!

I know exactly where you're coming from.

I had two boxes of original RWS 9.3x64mm ammo for more than 15 years before owning a rifle actually chambered for the cartridge !

Now I actually have rifles chambered for both the 62mm and the 64mm and have to concede to comments above that for all practical intents and purposes, when loaded properly, you'll be hard pressed to notice the difference in the field.
On paper there might be between 100 - 200 fps, depending on the bullet, between the two.

In saying all of that, my personal fav is the 64mm for none other than sentimental reasons.

You'll love either for use on Sambar as they knock the big deer down "quicker than a primary school port".

My 62mm is a Sako Black bear with a 20" barrel and my 64mm is built on a '09 Argentine Mauser, also with a handy 20" tube.

Best of luck with yours.

Yes Paul..there are those with the `62 and there are those with the `64 which incidentally is better than an extra 200 fps.The guru`s advise that a few manuals are understated by quite a bit.

I have a 358 NM and it and the `64 makes the `62 pale in comparison AS all rounders.

Hello John! Fancy seeing you here! Good luck with the project.

An e-mail to Norman Clark at Rugby, Warwickshire, England might be useful? He has a number or the x62 in sytock, Huskys mainly, and he may or may be able to advse, quote, counsel.

http://www.normanclarkgunsmith.com/

He's down the road from me in Leicestershire and a very, very, good riflesmith.

Selling in 18 minutes..

http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=6074638

for less than the mods on a 62

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Originally posted by gryphon1:
Yes Paul..there are those with the `62 and there are those with the `64 which incidentally is better than an extra 200 fps.The guru`s advise that a few manuals are understated by quite a bit.

I have a 358 NM and it and the `64 makes the `62 pale in comparison AS all rounders.

Hey old chum,I have been here a long time however i dont have the post count that you have achieved old mate,thanks for the heads up and I will look at the link however the problems associated with importing a single rifle from over there are many (read costly)

Appreciate your input Richard,thanks for the link.


Griff.

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Originally posted by JonP:
Selling in 18 minutes..

http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=6074638

for less than the mods on a 62

Ah thats a killer price and at that price worth importing...aaaaarrrgggghhhh!!!!

before you commit, make sure you can buy a minimum of 250 brand shiny new cases. Actually, buy the brass first...

Tell me that rifle is not really 605,000 Euro...?

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Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
Tell me that rifle is not really 605,000 Euro...?

Ok, it's 605.00. You added a zero.

RWS
Jamieson both I believe do them.

The Russians do them too.

http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/...mmo-93x64mm-brenneke

I have a 9.3x64mm great round.......only thing I see wrong with it is it is to versatile (tongue-in-cheek).....probably one of the best all around cartridges there is.

Try a 300 grain bullet in the x64, and 320 Woodleigh if you want the hammer effect.

A friend have had a 9,3x64 for 15 years or so , and he has mostly used 300 and 320 on them. Taken moose, boars, lot of game in Africa , and Europe. He likes it very much .

Ive owne and shot and hunted with both the 9.3x62 and the 9.3x64 and any difference in the field is not noticeable at all..

As to the ballistics the difference is much less than 100 FPS all things being equal..The recoil of the 9.3x62 is much less, Ammo, and components for the 9.3x62 are easier to come by, and IMO the 9.3x62 is just an all around better caliber. To each his own, but most 9.3 users arrive at this opinion sooner or later has been my experience with folks that are 9.3 lovers..

So many folks load the 9.3x62 based on old ballistics as they do for the 404 and such old calibers..In a modern action you can load them like a 270 or 30-06 safely with some to spare..
My 9.3x62s all shot 286 gr. bullets at 2525 FPS and that's comparable to my down loaded .375 H&H with a 300 gr. bullet at 2500 FPS (my buffalo load)...A 9.3x62 with a 250 GS Customs at 2650 to 2700 FPS shoots as flat as a 180 gr. 30-06, and that 250 gr. long GS Custom monolithic will shoot thru a buffalo on a broadside shot much of the time. Just my 2 bits, but hey I had to find out the hard way also..

I like the 300 gr. Swift at 2400 FPS for buffalo but found the 320 gr. Woodleighs needed a 26 inch barrel to barely get it to where I wanted it..but my 9.3s all had 26 inch tubes so they worked fine with all bullets.

Both 9.3s are nice calibers, but I decided that if Im going bigger than 9.3x62 I'll take the jump to the 375 Ruger..bu since I have a 375 H&H it'll do til the cows come home.

Oh shit here we go again with the modern loads and the long throats and the " we can get the 62 to equal the 64 BS.

The 62 has a case capacity of 77 gr and the 64 88 gr H2O : A full 10 gr difference and treated equally in loading the 64 is a very different animal to the 62 ! Period !

this is like comparing a 30-06 to a 300 win mag, same bullet different ballistics.

In terms of long range capability that 10 gr makes a world of difference.

At close range the 64 will bust old style bullets and 62 not !

I can attest to this !

At closer ranges the 64 loaded with original RWS rounds is a meat mincer when compared to the 62 !

Brennecke's original rifles had very long barrels and they attained extraordinary velocities from these.

The real difference is that you can launch a 300 gr bullet from the 64 at the same velocity as you would a 250 gr bullet from a 62 !

I have used both in the field. In my opinion the 9.3x64 is a noticeably more effective cartridge on game, particularly on big game.

A full 10 gr difference and treated equally in loading the 64 is a very different animal to the 62 ! Period !


In a nutshell ALF

How about buying a 375 Ruger and hunting with the saved money