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Some time back I had occasion to shoot a housecat with a pellet gun. It took 11 or 12 shots as I recall. The pellets could not penetrate the skull.
 
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I see that you're a relatively new member. Please be aware that Saeed has specifically said this thread is not to be about hunting domestic cats.


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Some time back I had occasion to shoot a housecat with a pellet gun. It took 11 or 12 shots as I recall. The pellets could not penetrate the skull.


Feral cats are one thing, house cats are another. I'm not at all impressed.
 
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11 or 12 shots? on a housecat? what a dick.
 
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11 or 12 shots? on a housecat? what a dick.


You got that right.
 
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You'd soon find yourself in the big house if you performed those tricks over here Eeker
 
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I suppose he was just killing time while waiting for his latest internet child porn mailings. These people sure seem to come out of the wood work here.


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Some time back I had occasion to shoot a housecat with a pellet gun. It took 11 or 12 shots as I recall. The pellets could not penetrate the skull.


A housecat?....really?? You must feel like such a big man. Roll Eyes



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Some time back I had occasion to shoot a housecat with a pellet gun. It took 11 or 12 shots as I recall. The pellets could not penetrate the skull.


A housecat?....really?? You must feel like such a big man. Roll Eyes

I see you have certain skills at your fingertips, can't think of a better subject to pratice on than this chap thumb
 
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Steve,

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( "It took 11 or 12 shots as I recall.") Must be a bad shot.....FYI, there's 11 pellets in a 3"mag load of 12 gauge buckshot. Use enough gun grasshoppa..... coffee donttroll
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If a cat isn't inside a house, then it really isn't much of a house cat, now is it? As far as I'm concerned, if a cat is outside, unless it's on a leash being walked by its owner, then it's feral.
 
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If a cat isn't inside a house, then it really isn't much of a house cat, now is it? As far as I'm concerned, if a cat is outside, unless it's on a leash being walked by its owner, then it's feral.


bewildered OK...many housecats, as well as house dogs go outside for short periods of time, this does not mean they are feral or wild. Roll Eyes

Here, I'll let Mr. Webster explain:

feral:

1: of, relating to, or suggestive of a wild beast <feral teeth> <feral instincts>2 a: not domesticated or cultivated : WILD b: having escaped from domestication and become wild <feral cats

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As far as I'm concerned, if a cat is outside, unless it's on a leash being walked by its owner, then it's feral.


rotflmo And in what parallel universe is this happening?



So, let me understand this, you shoot neighborhood dogs that are out and not on a leash, also? thumbdown

You are aware that there is actual "game" hunting in Michigan, right?


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Trying to debate people with sociopathic behavior is usually pointless but thanks for the effort Mary.


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I couldn't take it anymore.

We have a female that musta been the best lay in the parish. I took out 3 feral cats and 2 stray cats because they kept marking the front door. Everytime you walked in the house the smell would follow you in. And this kept on even after we had her fixed. Enough was enough. BOOM


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So, let me understand this, you shoot neighborhood dogs that are out and not on a leash, also?

If they getting in the trash cans:
First warning is to the dog owners.
Second warning is with paintballs.
No third warning


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Non feral cats are the responsibility of their owners/keepers. Hefty fines should apply to those who allow cats to roam.

If a cat strays onto my property, I have the right to catch/trap it and if it has a name tag and telephone number I will ring the owner and give a first and final warning not to let it happen again.

I the cat has no tag or strays again, then...........
 
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Mary, "So, let me understand this, you shoot neighborhood dogs that are out and not on a leash, also?
You are aware that there is actual "game" hunting in Michigan, right?
That kitty isn't hooked up to a motorcycle is it? I've seen that look before.... clap
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You're quoting the wrong person griz.. but no matter. Feral cats are out of controll and are a seperate issue for the most part and often times must be eliminated. I'll still argue as clean a kill as possible as should be the case with any animal.


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If a cat isn't inside a house, then it really isn't much of a house cat, now is it? As far as I'm concerned, if a cat is outside, unless it's on a leash being walked by its owner, then it's feral.


And you're full of shit.

If it has a collar, it's a PET. And if you shoot it, you're a CRIMINAL.
 
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Non feral cats are the responsibility of their owners/keepers. Hefty fines should apply to those who allow cats to roam.

If a cat strays onto my property, I have the right to catch/trap it and if it has a name tag and telephone number I will ring the owner and give a first and final warning not to let it happen again.

I the cat has no tag or strays again, then...........


Keep your kid on a leash. And that goes double for your ol' lady.
 
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Dempsey,

"Feral cats are out of controll and are a seperate issue for the most part and often times must be eliminated. I'll still argue as clean a kill as possible as should be the case with any animal."

Couldn't agree with you more! I think the point the other posters are missing is, there a huge difference in eliminating a feral cat and killing a neighbor's pet.

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Mary, "So, let me understand this, you shoot neighborhood dogs that are out and not on a leash, also?
You are aware that there is actual "game" hunting in Michigan, right?
That kitty isn't hooked up to a motorcycle is it? I've seen that look before.... shame
stir


Oh and WHELENIZER, all I have to say to your above post is:



I guess you are the type of guy who would have a motorcycle in your living room.... hilbily ....really clarifies who we are dealing with. nilly


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My bet is Whelenizer is from Butte, if anyones been there they know what I mean.


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"My bet is Whelenizer is from Butte." bewildered Nope.. Strike 1!
"I guess you are the type of guy who would have a motorcycle in your living room." lol Nope.. Strike 2!
I'm NOT in Butte. My current living room is an MRAP moving VIP's out of the Green Zone in Baghdad to VBC. patriot

BTW Dempsey, are those empty yellow rail cars still cluttering the tracks along I-15 from Ulm to Wolf Creek?
 
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Butte was a good guess no? Yes the cars are still there. I live in Hardy Creek, no cars by my place though.


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Non feral cats are the responsibility of their owners/keepers. Hefty fines should apply to those who allow cats to roam.

If a cat strays onto my property, I have the right to catch/trap it and if it has a name tag and telephone number I will ring the owner and give a first and final warning not to let it happen again.

I the cat has no tag or strays again, then...........


Keep your kid on a leash. And that goes double for your ol' lady.


bewildered Very cryptic Laddy. I'm sure you are trying to make a point, but like a lot of feline fanatics you are having difficulty getting your message across.

If you ever have a problem with your moggies, PM me, I have lots of good solutions. wave
 
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Very simple message, people who get their kicks seeing how many pellets it takes to penetrate a pets skull either suffer from low IQ or personality disorders. Simple enough unless your IQ is REALLY low. It's not opinion but established fact. As this site demonstrates there are no shortage of people who share your issues. If you were an NFL QB perhaps you'd get more press but seeing how you're just some IP number on the web this will have to do.


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bewildered Very cryptic Laddy. I'm sure you are trying to make a point, but like a lot of feline fanatics you are having difficulty getting your message across.

If you ever have a problem with your moggies, PM me, I have lots of good solutions. wave


Since the short posts are too 'cryptic' for your comprehension let me insert lengthy more descriptive wording and please do not confuse ethical civility with feline fanaticism.

Below are some plain and simple research results and philosophy which pretty much sum up the point being made that you seem to not be understanding. Oh, let me again clarify that point for you: Animal cruelty is not normal behavior.

Researchers, as well as the FBI and other law enforcement agencies nationwide, have linked animal cruelty to domestic violence, child abuse, serial killings, and to the recent rash of killings by school-age children.
In a study of 57 families being treated for incidents of child abuse, 88% also abused animals. In two-thirds of the cases, it was the abusive parent who had killed or injured the animals to control a child. In one-third, the children had abused the animals, using them as scapegoats for their anger.

• A 2003 study found that of 354 serial killers profiled, 21 percent were known to have committed animal cruelty, although it is speculated that more might have committed unreported incidents of animal cruelty.
• A Canadian Police study found that 70 percent of people arrested for animal cruelty had past records of other violent crimes, including homicide.• Of 332 animal cruelty arrests studied by the Chicago Police Department,
o 70 percent of suspects had arrests on felony charges (including two homicides)
o 86 percent of suspects had multiple arrests
o 70 percent of suspects had narcotics charges (68 percent of which were for sales or trafficking)
o 65 percent of suspects had been charged with battery-related violent offenses
o 27 percent of suspects had previous firearms charges
o 13 percent of suspects had been arrested on sex crime charges
o 59 percent of suspects were alleged gang members.
• A Massachusetts study of 153 animal abusers found that within 10 years of their arrest, 70 percent were charged with other crimes:
o 38 percent were charged with violent crimes;
o 44 percent were charged with property crimes;
o 37 percent were charged with drug offenses;
o 37 percent were charged with disorderly offenses.
• An Australian study of convicted animal abusers found:
o 61.5 percent had been convicted for violent offenses against humans
o 17 percent had been convicted for sexual abuse
o 8 percent had been convicted for arson.


Albert Schweitzer Saw it Coming
"In looking back to the end of the century, I could never understand the optimism over the achievements of the times. Everywhere, many seemed to suppose that we had not merely advanced in knowledge, but that we had reached heights in spirituality and ethics we had never attained before and would never lose. But to me it seemed that we not only had failed to surpass the spiritual life of past generations, but that we were really only nibbling from their accomplishments, and that in many respects, our spiritual inheritance was dribbling out of our hands."
(Origin of Reverence for Life)
As we enter yet another century, we find ourselves asking the same kind of questions Albert Schweitzer asked a hundred years ago. His thoughts then were both dismal and encouraging:
"We live in a dark frightening age. One reason for this is the part played by the ideology of inhumanity in our time." "The Philosophy of Civilization"
He thought that Western civilization was decaying because it had abandoned affirmation of (and respect for) life as its ethical foundation.
The prevalence of acts of animal cruelty among the most depraved and malicious criminals in society.

Hope these facts and thoughts from a great mind are explicit enough for you, Laddy!


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I can't belive all of you like being troll bait so much. If Black Mamba shot a cat 12 times I'm Barry Obama.


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bewildered Very cryptic Laddy. I'm sure you are trying to make a point, but like a lot of feline fanatics you are having difficulty getting your message across.

If you ever have a problem with your moggies, PM me, I have lots of good solutions. wave


Since the short posts are too 'cryptic' for your comprehension let me insert lengthy more descriptive wording and please do not confuse ethical civility with feline fanaticism.

Below are some plain and simple research results and philosophy which pretty much sum up the point being made that you seem to not be understanding. Oh, let me again clarify that point for you: Animal cruelty is not normal behavior.

Researchers, as well as the FBI and other law enforcement agencies nationwide, have linked animal cruelty to domestic violence, child abuse, serial killings, and to the recent rash of killings by school-age children.
In a study of 57 families being treated for incidents of child abuse, 88% also abused animals. In two-thirds of the cases, it was the abusive parent who had killed or injured the animals to control a child. In one-third, the children had abused the animals, using them as scapegoats for their anger.

• A 2003 study found that of 354 serial killers profiled, 21 percent were known to have committed animal cruelty, although it is speculated that more might have committed unreported incidents of animal cruelty.
• A Canadian Police study found that 70 percent of people arrested for animal cruelty had past records of other violent crimes, including homicide.• Of 332 animal cruelty arrests studied by the Chicago Police Department,
o 70 percent of suspects had arrests on felony charges (including two homicides)
o 86 percent of suspects had multiple arrests
o 70 percent of suspects had narcotics charges (68 percent of which were for sales or trafficking)
o 65 percent of suspects had been charged with battery-related violent offenses
o 27 percent of suspects had previous firearms charges
o 13 percent of suspects had been arrested on sex crime charges
o 59 percent of suspects were alleged gang members.
• A Massachusetts study of 153 animal abusers found that within 10 years of their arrest, 70 percent were charged with other crimes:
o 38 percent were charged with violent crimes;
o 44 percent were charged with property crimes;
o 37 percent were charged with drug offenses;
o 37 percent were charged with disorderly offenses.
• An Australian study of convicted animal abusers found:
o 61.5 percent had been convicted for violent offenses against humans
o 17 percent had been convicted for sexual abuse
o 8 percent had been convicted for arson.


Albert Schweitzer Saw it Coming
"In looking back to the end of the century, I could never understand the optimism over the achievements of the times. Everywhere, many seemed to suppose that we had not merely advanced in knowledge, but that we had reached heights in spirituality and ethics we had never attained before and would never lose. But to me it seemed that we not only had failed to surpass the spiritual life of past generations, but that we were really only nibbling from their accomplishments, and that in many respects, our spiritual inheritance was dribbling out of our hands."
(Origin of Reverence for Life)
As we enter yet another century, we find ourselves asking the same kind of questions Albert Schweitzer asked a hundred years ago. His thoughts then were both dismal and encouraging:
"We live in a dark frightening age. One reason for this is the part played by the ideology of inhumanity in our time." "The Philosophy of Civilization"
He thought that Western civilization was decaying because it had abandoned affirmation of (and respect for) life as its ethical foundation.
The prevalence of acts of animal cruelty among the most depraved and malicious criminals in society.

Hope these facts and thoughts from a great mind are explicit enough for you, Laddy!


I appreciate you putting together such a looooong post for my benefit.

Unfortunately after 2 lines I found it very boring.

Reading of said post was therefore aborted. wave
 
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"I can't belive all of you like being troll bait so much. If Black Mamba shot a cat 12 times I'm Barry Obama."

Hope your right mate.
But there are plenty of sad little ButtWipes in the world who would do shit like that.


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I appreciate you putting together such a looooong post for my benefit.

Unfortunately after 2 lines I found it very boring.

Reading of said post was therefore aborted. wave


Oh...no problem, with the technology of cut and paste it only took a few minutes. Glad your attention span allowed you to get through a bit of it. I am sure you got the message. wave



quote originally posted by TIGGERTATE:

"I can't belive all of you like being troll bait so much. If Black Mamba shot a cat 12 times I'm Barry Obama."


I would wish that statement to be true, but 14 years in veterinary medicine, 20 years in the taxidermy shop hearing occasional clients brag of these actions, frequency on this site and other such sites with the occasional bragging of this type of behavior lead me to believe otherwise. Even if a troll started this thread, he is obviously a person who partakes in the described action, for who in their right mind would open a thread with such a statement. bewildered
 
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I appreciate you putting together such a looooong post for my benefit.

Unfortunately after 2 lines I found it very boring.

Reading of said post was therefore aborted. wave


Oh...no problem, with the technology of cut and paste it only took a few minutes. Glad your attention span allowed you to get through a bit of it. I am sure you got the message. wave



quote originally posted by TIGGERTATE:

"I can't belive all of you like being troll bait so much. If Black Mamba shot a cat 12 times I'm Barry Obama."


I would wish that statement to be true, but 14 years in veterinary medicine, 20 years in the taxidermy shop hearing occasional clients brag of these actions, frequency on this site and other such sites with the occasional bragging of this type of behavior lead me to believe otherwise. Even if a troll started this thread, he is obviously a person who partakes in the described action, for who in their right mind would open a thread with such a statement. bewildered


Mary,
it's a pity that your avatar picture is so small.

Is that you with the giraffe?

If so, then you appear to have two very desirable qualities for a woman........good looks and a sense of humor. beer
 
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"I can't belive all of you like being troll bait so much. If Black Mamba shot a cat 12 times I'm Barry Obama."

Hope your right mate.
But there are plenty of sad little ButtWipes in the world who would do shit like that.


True. But the provocateur like BM usually isn't the same personality type as an actual offender. Just my experience.


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I have never killed a cat.Kicked one once[softly].The fact remains,a feral cat or your "sweety pie" with the coller will kill their weight in songbirds and game birds a week,easily.Some states are changing their game laws to allow the killing of ANY cat found roaming.Just somthing to digest
 
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The fact remains,a feral cat or your "sweety pie" with the coller will kill their weight in songbirds and game birds a week,easily.Some states are changing their game laws to allow the killing of ANY cat found roaming.Just somthing to digest


Very true.

Just a query of all involved to satisfy my curiosity:

How far from home can an owner allow his cat to "wander" before it's considered "too far"?? Outdise the yard?? 100 yards outside the yard?? 1/4 mile outside the yard?? A mile??

Just curious as to where you all draw the line between loving one's cat and neglect??


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The fact remains,a feral cat or your "sweety pie" with the coller will kill their weight in songbirds and game birds a week,easily.Some states are changing their game laws to allow the killing of ANY cat found roaming.Just somthing to digest


Very true.

Just a query of all involved to satisfy my curiosity:

How far from home can an owner allow his cat to "wander" before it's considered "too far"?? Outdise the yard?? 100 yards outside the yard?? 1/4 mile outside the yard?? A mile??

Just curious as to where you all draw the line between loving one's cat and neglect??


It is impossible to restrict a cats movement once it leaves ones property.

Therefore it is unacceptable for a cat to leave the confines of its owners land, end of story.
 
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I have bounced a few pellets off toms skulls too. The trick is to pump the gun up the full 8 times & make the hit at 90 degrees not at an angle & it will penetrate or just aim for the eye orbit.

did I mention that I like songbirds very much and absoultly HATE cats.



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Hey D Hum...this one's for you... Wink lol



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The cat was obviously commiting suicide if it stuck around for the second through twelveth shot.


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Thats funny!! Big Grin



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