The first is an 8MM second a 7.65MM the next two are Turkish Mausers 8MM. Last is an SKS. Priced @ $60, $110, $125, $125 and $220 for the SKS.

Those two Turks appear to be a good buy.

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You would be surprised to experiment that some of these old timers shoot more accurately than contemporary military rifles. In those times of trench wars, it was expected that a soldier could pick out ennemies at several hundred meters.

Here are a few targets shot at 100 m (109 yds.) with rifles (in prime condition) aged from 70 to 115 years old.


Carl Gustav M96, 6,5x55 SE, anno 1901



K31, 7,5x55 SW, anno 1938



Lee-Enfield N°4 Mk I*, .303 British, anno 1943



1903A3, .30-06, anno 1943

Definite yes on the Turks (have one and it's a good shooter), probably on the SKS, the other two, I don't know.

We have a monthly battle rifle match at our gun club alternating 100, 200 and 400 yards. All rifles have to be in as issued condition, and have been issued earlier than 1954.

Last months 400 yard match the winner got 99 4x, 2nd and 3rd had 99 3x. That's 400 yards.

It's a ball!


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The two Turks are K. KALE 1943, 1942.

The more I look at them the more questions I have.

I guess next I need to check the serial numbers but the actions seems very well fitted.

Would these be good for a rifle build?

That 1891 Argentine 7.65 is quite a rifle, if the barrel isn't ruined. It is on a par with the .308, just shoots .311" projectiles (at least usually).

My Dad shot one his entire life, and 45 grains of IMR 4895 behind a 150-grain pill was a one hole round at 100. Brass is easily formed from '06 if you have trouble finding it...

I'd pass on the first Carcano in 8mm. Too much recoil. I never cared for the 7.35 either. The Turks were typically scrubbed older Mausers re-arsenaled and rebarreled. If you can identify which Mauser was used for the chassis, they may be worth converting, but often can be nicely accurate as you can find them virtually unfired after being rebuilt and stored by the Turks.

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Originally posted by Doubless:
That 1891 Argentine 7.65 is quite a rifle, if the barrel isn't ruined. It is on a par with the .308, just shoots .311" projectiles (at least usually).

My Dad shot one his entire life, and 45 grains of IMR 4895 behind a 150-grain pill was a one hole round at 100. Brass is easily formed from '06 if you have trouble finding it...

Very true!

I've one as well, a gift from my FIL. All matching serials. Brass is more available than you might think. 43.5g of 4350 and a 150g. Sights take some getting used to (front is an inverted V) but good enough to hit 3" plates at 100yd offhand.

And yes, ~308 performance.

Except for the carcano in 8x57 I'd not hesitate to shoot any of them. Frank