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I will be moving some of my stuff out of AK and traveling through BC and Alberta before crossing border again via Montana. I have searched to no avail with respect to these items so maybe you guys can point me to the right links, Items of concern: !. Rifle brass, and I have 100's of brass for 5-6 calibers. 2. Bullets, 100's of these also **I would surmise that primers and powder are a no-no. Thanks for your help "An individual with experience is never at the mercies of an individual with an argument" | ||
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No big deal. It isn't Canada I would be worried about, it would be re-entry at the Montana border. Make sure you have your ducks in a row as far as US regulations for export and import. For Canada it is covered in the Explosives section of Natural Resources Canada. You can read the relevant information here: http://www.nrcan.gc.ca/explosives/importation/9907 For convenience, here is some of the info you wanted. Personal Exemptions The Exemption Table in the Explosives Regulations, 2013 outlines what types and quantities of explosives can be imported, exported, or transported in transit without a permit if the following conditions are met: the explosive is imported, exported, or transported in transit for personal use and not for commercial purposes; the explosive enters or leaves Canada with the person importing it; or exporting it or, if the explosive is transported in transit, it remains with the person transporting it at all times; and in the case of small arms cartridges, the cartridges do not include a tracer, incendiary or similar military component or device; and the quantity of the explosive being imported, exported, and transported in transit is not more than the quantity set out in the table. Number Explosives Type Quantity 1. Model rocket motors that each have a maximum total impulse of 80 newton-seconds (NFPA alpha designations A to E, as indicated on the motor or its packaging) 6 and 2. Avalanche airbag systems 3 and 3. Small arms cartridges 5000 and 4. Percussion caps (primers) for small arms cartridges 5000 and 5. Empty primed small arms cartridge cases 5000 and 6. Black powder and hazard category PE 1 black powder substitutes 8 kg, in containers of 500 g or less and 7. Smokeless powder and hazard category PE 3 black powder substitutes 8 kg, in containers of 4 kg or less and If in doubt or you have questions just give them a call. Contact info is on the website. I have a number of US hunters every year and to a man they always say it is the US customs that grill them the most when re-entering the US after a hunt. Also, it is always prudent to print off the pertinent regulations that cover your situation and have them with you to present to the US or Canadian official you are dealing with in the event of some perceived issue on their part. They are not all rocket scientists, they may have gotten up on the wrong side of the bed that day, or they may know relatively little about firearms/ammunitions etc because it isn't high on their list of personal interests. A little due diligence can go a long way. Good luck with your move. ______________________________________________ The power of accurate observation is frequently called cynicism by those who are bereft of that gift. | |||
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No problems from Canadian side but the Americans get a bit upset when some of that stuff is taken out of U.S. and into Canada. | |||
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I agree with those above. The trouble isn't so much Canada, it's getting back into the USA. Roger ___________________________ I'm a trophy hunter - until something better comes along. *we band of 45-70ers* | |||
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And getting out of the US. Make sure you have documentation proving its yours and where you got it, and that you are merely passing through to go back into the US again. Canadians won't likely care, but R&R from the US can be troublesome. It's illegal to export without a permit. - dan "Intellectual truth is eternally one: moral or sentimental truth is a geographic and chronological accident that varies with the individual" R.F. Burton | |||
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Thanks for the information guys, I found that indeed it's the US customs that are more of an issue. I am for the sake of convenience in the future taking a class next week which will allow me to get my PAL. "An individual with experience is never at the mercies of an individual with an argument" | |||
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Wouldn't flat rate shipping be easier. One can fit a lot of bullets and brass into them | |||
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A very good idea. I have several friends/clients that hunt with me every year that took the course and obtained their PAL. They said it was the best thing they ever did........just whiz through customs now. Only problem they still have is with the TSA screwing them over while in transit within the US. Sadly nothing any of us can do about that. ______________________________________________ The power of accurate observation is frequently called cynicism by those who are bereft of that gift. | |||
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What is a PAL? Mike  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Mike it is a Possession and Acquisition Licence. In Canada you need to have a "firearms licence" and you take a safety course to get the PAL. The basic course is for non-restricted firearms (normal every day rifles and shotguns), and then you can also take a course for "restricted" firearms (think handguns and certain semi-autos, like the AR's and their clones). I know it is seen as a bad thing by US guys (and some Canadians as well) but once you have it you can walk into a store and buy a rifle and you walk out with it. No 7 day waiting period or other such thing. Even with handguns, once you have your restricted certification on your PAL, I can walk into a gun store, buy a new pistol or revolver and be taking it home with me the same day most of the time, after jumping through a few administrative/registration hoops via the phone or e-mail. For US guys it means not having to mess around with the "firearms declaration/temporary licence" at the border when crossing with your rifle/shotguns to go on a hunt. The US friends I have that obtained their PAL all think it has made things a lot better for them. Probably not worth it if you rarely hunt in Canada, but if you do frequently it probably is worth considering. That is it in a nutshell. ______________________________________________ The power of accurate observation is frequently called cynicism by those who are bereft of that gift. | |||
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My RPAL (restricted-weapon version of PAL) does indeed allow me to walk into a store, buy a gun and walk back out with it. The reason that many of us don't like it is simply because before the existence of the PAL/RPAL, and its predecessor the FAC (Firearms Acquisition Certificate), I could do exactly the same thing without the damned piece of paper! Ah, the good old days... Skyline, if you can do a same-day restricted purchase, you must be in one of the less-oppressive western provinces. My friends in Ontario still tell me horror stories about the waiting periods involved in getting a handgun. Anyways, pardon the thread highjack...getting old, and just can't pass up a chance to bitch about the gummint!  | |||
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Is it a big deal to just drive up (or fly) and get this "firearms and declaration/ temporary license"? Remember, forgivness is easier to get than permission. | |||
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I have probably made that journey 6 times. Never even thought about brass and bullets, hell I had ammo one time. Declared my rifles, but that was it. | |||
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I goes a lot faster if you do paperwork in advance but no, it's no big deal. | |||
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It's leaving the U.S. where the issue lies....not entering Canada. | |||
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