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.45 Super - Anyone try this?
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I've had a box of Buffalo Bore 200-gr .45 Super loads sitting around for several years and I finally decided to take the .45 Super plunge. Parts are on the way.

Have any of you been shooting .45 Super? If so, I'd like to hear your opinions and what you've learned.




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It makes sense from a ballistic standpoint. There are a few guns that can take some/ a lot of .45 Super stock from the factory. I expect you will be happy with your decision.


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I've Buffalo Bore super ammo in Starline cases, playing with it some. I have a Glock 21 3 Gen with a 9" barrel made by Dasan when they were making parts for Lone Wolf. I haven't picked up the new heavier spring yet. The Lone Wolf Distr. Dasan barrel has almost complete case support. More than the factory barrel. Not sure I need a compensator with the long barrel and the weight out front it provides. Still thinking about threading though. Be safe and good luck. Packy
 
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Gren.,you're as bad as me. I have been known to buy a set of ivory grips for a SAA Colt + THEN go looking for the Colt. Several others that I won't mention.


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Or a set of dies, a little brass, some bullets all a good reason to buy something.
 
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In my Springfield Long Slide V16 (made for the 45 Super but also shoots 45 ACP great), I shoot Remington UMC 230g hardball for practice, but shoot Buffalo Bore 45 Super 255g hardcast at 1100 fps for reals.





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A nice handful of 45
 
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Is the V16 a 6" slide? I have wanted a 7" 1911 for a long time but don't see them when I have the money. A custom might be out of the ballpark! Is anyone making the 1911 in 7" slide model these days? Be Well. Packy
 
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My preacher buddy that I mentioned before has one in a 1911 frame that his dad had built when he was working for the San Antonio P.D. He brought it out to my range to play with. It is a thumper but no recoil too excessive I didn't find. If one can semi-comfortably handle a standard 45 ACP or a 44 Mag. then this round is a cream puff (recoil wise)


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I bought the 9" barrel and two years later bought the gun. Does anyone know of a 7" slide 1911 made these days for Super or just ACP? I would like to have a longslide. Be Well Packy
 
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Packy, I haven't seen a long slide in quite some time. I remember that AMT was selling them in their Hardballer back in the day but they've been out of business for years. Have you tried to google it?


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This is an old thread and I guess I should have updated it a while ago.

I did all sorts of things to my wonderful Colt 1911 to get it to shoot the Buffalo Bore 45 Super reliably. I also tried a couple of other .45 Super loads. It just became too temperamental. I could get it to shoot one load fairly well but not another. I'd change springs and I could get it to shoot another load fairly well but not the others. Repeat, repeat, repeat. Contrary to myth, standard .45 wouldn't function reliably in any modification the worked with any particular .45 Super load. To top it off, my 1911 was taking more of a pounding than I felt comfortable with. So, I abandoned the project and returned everything back to original, standard, .45 ACP configuration.

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In my Springfield Long Slide V16 (made for the 45 Super but also shoots 45 ACP great), I shoot Remington UMC 230g hardball for practice, but shoot Buffalo Bore 45 Super 255g hardcast at 1100 fps for reals.
A pistol like yours, made and tuned for .45 Super, would be the right way to go.

I went a different path. After I returned my pistol to original configuration I purchased a Kimber Stainless Target Longslide in 10mm.

I think I'm better off with the 10mm than I would have been with the .45 Super as you can see with my testing below. Note, my Kimber has a 6" barrel.

Brand	        Weight	Bullet	Mfg's V0	Mfg's E0	Observed V0	Observed E0	SD	Low	High
Buffalo Bore	180gr	JHP	1350 fps	728 ft-lbs	1404 fps	788 ft-lbs	11.8	1388	1414
Colt Defense	180gr	JHP	1150 fps	529 ft-lbs	1301 fps	677 ft-lbs	17.38	1283	1320
FENIX	        180gr	FMJ	1375 fps	756 ft-lbs	1375 fps	756 ft-lbs	13.57	1355	1383
FENIX	        180gr	HP	1375 fps	756 ft-lbs	1367 fps	747 ft-lbs	18.07	1347	1390
Hornady	        180gr	XTP	1275 fps	650 ft-lbs	1312 fps	688 ft-lbs	8.32	1302	1325
Jesse James	180gr	FMJ	1190 fps	566 ft-lbs	1268 fps	643 ft-lbs	20.29	1234	1283
Sig Sauer	180gr	V-Crown	1250 fps	624 ft-lbs	1259 fps	634 ft-lbs	19.88	1215	1284
Sig Sauer	180gr	FMJ	1250 fps	624 ft-lbs	1303 fps	679 ft-lbs	19.99	1285	1328
Underwood	200gr	HCFN	1250 fps	694 ft-lbs	1235 fps	677 ft-lbs	14.62	1214	1254  




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Grenadier I like seeing the real data as you posted. I have a Labradar that my son is using right now. It forms quite the data base. We are working on PCP guns now and are going back to 308, 350 RM, and 358 Winchester soon. But my 45 Super project is ongoing in the Block. I heard somewhere Glock is Austrian for Hi-Point. I believe it after qualifying and carrying it for about 8 years on duty. I still don't like them like the 1911s in any form. I still wonder about the 220 grain in 10MM. It might be equivalent to the 45 cal 250 gr Penta HP in the 45 Super. I have some for experimentation but have too many projects in the fire right now. Then there are the 6.5 and 9MM M/S calling my name. Mostly medium bore rifle and large bore pistol. I hope you achieved what you wanted in the 10mm. It certainly looks to be a hard hitting hand weapon. Be Well. Packy
 
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Packy, I'm glad to see that retirement does not have you stuck to the sofa. tu2


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The sofa tried to grab me but was unsuccessful. Be Well. Packy
 
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I had a friend that ran away from home to join the army in War 2. He left the military in the mid 60s + went to work for a little company called IBM, + took advantage of stock options. Anyway, the point here is that upon retirement, IBM employees were offered to be sent to any school of their choice. Seems they had done research + that the average lifespan of a retiree was 18 months. No purpose left in life, etc. I can see their point. I don't know if they still do this or not. Bill opted to go to the Colorado School of Gunsmithing. After he got out he built several rifles until arthritis got to his hands. When I talked to him about 20 years ago he said that his retirement checks came to 80K a year, nice but if you can't use your hands kinda a hollow victory.


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