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More Idiocracy from our Government. June 15th they updated their list of banned firearms. See link below


Updated gun ban

It appears,Searcy, Heym, Sabatti, Famars, Verney Carron, single shot Westley Richards and a few other old makers are on the list now.

Not 100% if it might just be the “above 10,000 joules” calibers but this is truly abhorrent changes being put forward.

I feel a lot of this comes from Trudeaus desire to be the UN poster child, and luckily he lost his bid today for a seat on the UN security council. All this small arms appeasement to UN has to stop.

Hopefully our conservative government wins next election, but it’s a few years away.
 
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It is abhorrent when the citizens rights and freedoms are treated like a political football.


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I wish we had the “right”

It’s a privilege under our laws to own.

The US got that differing distinction much better then we did
 
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Citizens have Rights, Slaves have privileges. Time to let your govt know that you are Citizens.


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Double rifles and Black Rifle Coffee. Have the FOOLS figured out they banned coffee the first time? Idiots and no sense of humor. Where do you Canucks find these people and are they allowed to breed? For Shame. Be Well, Packy.
 
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The calibers on the list are .600 NE and .700 NE. rest are fine. You have to click on the side link to see the calibers affected.
 
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Boy, I am so sick of all the Canuck crimes committed with the .600 and .700 NE doubles. Thank God Trudeau has the grit to see this risk and act on it.


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Because mass shooters are just mowing folks down with 600 and 700 single shot and double rifles. I do not know why Canadians whether they own firearms or not put up with such stupidity.

How many 600 or 700s do they think hey are taking out of circulation? Just stupid.
 
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Which begs the question...what problem is this solution intended to solve?
 
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Which begs the question...what problem is this solution intended to solve?


The firearm regulations were overly broad. From the regulations:

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New maximum thresholds for muzzle energy (greater than 10,000 Joules – e.g., sniper rifles) and bore diameter (20 mm or greater – e.g., grenade launcher) are in place. Any firearm that exceeds them is now a prohibited firearm.


So, a .600 NE is now considered "a sniper rifle". BOOM

The government also is supposed to do "buybacks". I wonder what value they would put on someone's Purdey in .600 NE?
 
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Which begs the question...what problem is this solution intended to solve?


The problem of maintaining his coalition in Parliament and getting a majority in the next election. He can't depend on his mother's friends (the potheads) to give him a majority. Most of them are too wasted to remember to vote.
 
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So, a 4-bore is still OK?
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So, a 4-bore is still OK?
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Bores of 20mm or greater, or rounds with a muzzle energy of more than 10,000 joules (his English-hating father made the country metric when he was Prime Minister) are banned. Ditch the Bushmaster cannon.
 
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Big NO as of right now. A two year Amnesty is in effect and a buy buck which will be a joke. There’s some legal cases going ahead to fight it but hopefully we get the Conservative party back and they cancel all this nonsense.

The intent was to ban Some of the more well known larger so called “military” rounds 50 bmg, the 408 cheytac and 416 Barrett. These were the over 10k joules of energy.

Then they did the greater then 20mm bore ban which was to ban “grenade launcher attachments” but now that’s included a bunch of normal shotguns and obviously 8 bore and larger.

All the wording has been completely rushed and not thought through and it’s moronic to the core. It needs to be fought and changed

Just read of a .577 Westley Richards imported, which is still currently legal, just under the 10k law. But all said and done it’s upwards of 300K. I wonder what the hell buyback they’d even do for that.
 
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And then the bastards will probably destroy those beautiful rifles and guns Mad


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And then the bastards will probably destroy those beautiful rifles and guns Mad


Or they may be stored outside the country for use where they're still legal?


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This proves, despite, what some of our progressive brothers on this site think, the gun bans/restrictions are not aimed at high capacity semi auto rifles.

Even on face value when was the last time someone was killed or held up with a Barrett 50 cal single shot rifle.
 
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It's all about control of a people. Vote them out or lose more of your 'rights', as the nose of the camel gets further and further under your 'rights' tent.
 
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You use the word "rights" as if it applies to Canada.

We have a constitution but you must understand our constitution can be nullified/suspended by parliament if it is in the best interest of the country. It is the "Not Withstanding" clause.

The USA has Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness, Canada has Peace, Order and Good Government.

Second, citizens have rights. Like the people in the United States. In Canada we are a Constitutional Monarchy and as such, we are "subject" to the laws/whim of the crown. Therefore, we are not citizens, we are subjects, and, subject to the crown, with no rights.

In Canada, the crown dictates that firearms ownership is against the law. Yes, you read that correctly. In Canada it is illegal to own/possess a firearm, unless, you have been given permission by the crown to own a firearm. This is where the process of person registration comes in.

In order to legally own a firearm in Canada, a subject must be licensed by the crown. He/she must complete a firearms training course in long arms and one for short arms, pistols.


The long arms are non-restricted and the pistols are restricted. Then he/she must apply for a Possession and Acquisition License. Completion of the two day course does not automatically get you a Possession and acquisition or restricted acquisition license, (PAL/RPAL). Now the government does a rigorous background check where they phone your spouse to make sure she/he is ok with you having a pal/rpal. Then a criminal background check followed by a mental health check. If you pass muster, you get a license; to be renewed every five years with the same background check being done.

If you do anything stupid, the government can pull your license and presto, it is illegal for you to own guns.

Now, as a registered firearms owner, your history, criminal or otherwise, is reviewed "on a daily basis" by the RCMP through a data base called
CPIC. For a detailed explanation of CPIC, look up CPIC Canada on Wikepedia. Below is the condensed version:

"Canadian Police Information Centre

cpic-cipc.ca/English/index.cfm

The Canadian Police Information Centre is the central police database where Canada's law enforcement agencies can access information on a number of matters. It is Canada's only national law enforcement networking computer system ensuring officers all across the country can access the same information. There are approximately 3 million files generated each year and is the responsibility of the originating agency to ensure the data integrity of each file."

All firearms owners have a CPIC file. Do anything stupid and the police are kicking in your door seizing your firearms.

As you all know, Canada is part of the British Commonwealth and as such, we have inherited the system of democracy and law from Britain. This means we have a Parliament and Senate where all new legislation will be debated and voted on.

The ruling party of government has a little known decree it can use to pass legislation without first going through parliamentary debate and senate approval. This is called an "Order in Council", (oic). For a detailed description of OIC, see OIC Canada Wikepedia. The short version is:
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Traditionally, Orders in Council are used as a way for the Prime Minister to make political appointments, but they can also be used to issue simple laws as a sort of decree. In times of emergency, a government may issue legislation directly through Orders in Council, forgoing the usual parliamentary procedure."

So, OIC's are used for passing emergency finance bills, patronage appointments and so on. Not law.

Currently, Canada has a minority government run by the Liberals under Justin Trudeau. Trudeau banned parliament when the Covid pandemic hit. So, no sitting parliament. Justin Trudeau, without parliamentary approval, then decreed by OIC, 1500 types and variations of otherwise legally owned firearms by Canadian "subjects" be banned with an amnesty of two years at which time all banned firearms are to be turned into the government. This program will be implemented by the RCMP.

This was enacted May 1, 2020. Since then, the RCMP have arbitrarily added other firearms to the list.

Are Canadian firearms owners outraged?

But that's not all.

The Canadian Government has now set a precedent of being able to seize Canadian property without parliamentary debate.

The Canadian Constitution does not have any guarantees regarding property rights of subjects. This was purposely left out when our constitution was repatriated from Britain by the then sitting Prime Minister, Pierre Trudeau. Yes, the father of the current Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

This means the government, using an OIC can seize bank accounts, pensions, or any other property of its subjects by the simple use of an OIC.

Ladies and Gentleman, welcome to Communism.

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I have watched it go rapidly downhill since 1968. The big issue as I see it is the phobia of the Government taking "our weapons". I apologize for the misprint, phobia means unsubstantiated fears of a delusional genre, true fear is an actuality that something might happen in truth. So getting down to the nut cutting; are these Democratic promises as much wind as all the rest? I have a good friend who is 77 years old + he says, "I've lived a good life, you'll not get any of mine "+ told the local sheriff the same. The point here is that the left politicos can promise all they want but who will enforce it? C'mon almost all the cops that you know are shooters themselves. REALLY, there are more of us than them. Martial law?!, they don't EVEN want to open that can of worms.


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You have to understand the Canadian Psyche.

We are the kind of people that would drive ourselves to the concentration camps and do a self check in so as not to offend or put anyone out.

If we don't like a law, we don't protest, we ignore it. Don't want to get everyone riled up now.

There is no spirit or fight in this country. We are taught from a very early age to obey. Stand in line like a good little boy, don't make a fuss because you will disturb the neighbours, that sort of thing.

Makes me sick. We've turned into a bunch of key board warriors in our parents basement.

We have a gun website in Canada called Gunnutz. Check out the political forums. Lots of chest pounding and bluster; no substance.

My nickel's worth.

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We in Canada do not have elected sheriffs in our towns. the big cities have their own police departments. The rural communities are policed by a federally run police force known as the RCMP.

You may have heard of them recently as it applies to a major fu.k up in a small town in Nova Scotia where a male went off the deep end, dressed up as an RCMP officer, and took off down the road in his made up to look like an RCMP patrol car. Very realistic, decals and all.

This man succeeded in killing a female police officer and stealing her firearms. The man was prohibited from owning firearms but acquired his guns illegally from the United States.

He went on a killing spree that resulted in the death of 22 people who were shot or burned alive in their own homes.

During this killing spree, the RCMP should have notified the community, as per their policy, of a dangerous man on the loose, using social media, the news outlets and a province wide alert system. The RCMP chose not to, instead, sending a text message on twitter. Interestingly, The U.S. Embassy in Nova Scotia notified all Americans in Nova Scotia a mad man was on the loose and to secure themselves.

There is a huge sh.t storm happening as to how the RCMP bungled this case. Trudeau and the RCMP are trying to sweep it under the rug. The media is conspicuously silent but social media won't let it die. By the way, days after this massacre, Trudeau announced his huge gun seizure campaign.

The RCMP have spent its entire career covering up their misdeeds. Any other country would have got rid of an agency such as this. Do a google search of the RCMP wrong doing. It will shock you.

Another cluster fuc.k was the RCMP High River gun seizure. The city is flooded out by high water. The city is ordered to evacuate. Days later the RCMP go door to door punching the door and seizing firearms and ammunition. No government authority was granted. The RCMP hierarchy took it upon themselves to conduct these house to house raids; and they refused to pay damages. We are still waiting for an investigation, and that was several years ago.

One other thing about the raid. The RCMP are assigned to these small towns and cities all across Canada with a service of a few years before they are transferred to a new location. They are moved all across the country, never staying long. Keeps them from getting chummy with the locals.

Days prior to the confiscation, the local RCMP officers were all given time off and told to leave town. Other RCMP were brought in from all across Alberta to conduct the raid. After the raid, they went back to their original detachments and the head of the detachment was replaced with a new detachment commander. By the way, the house to house searches; the houses of the RCMP were not touched.

The locals had no way of holding anyone accountable. The RCMP answer to the government and are their lackeys. The government won't do anything. there is no oversight committee.

And Canadians are to polite to do anything. I've been in other countries where an agency like the RCMP would have its cops littering the ditches with their corpses over the sh.t they have pulled in this country.

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So sad to read this about Canada. When I drive though Canada it's difficult to tell I am not in the States--out coutnries are so much alike. Canada is too passive, America is to aggressive. Be nice to find a middle and common ground.
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I would rather be too aggressive than too passive. When I was young, my father taught me, "Gentlemen do not fight". Consequently, I got the crap kicked out of me on a regular basis. Many decades later I learned the correct phrase my father screwed up. "Gentlemen do not brawl but do fight for what they believe in". Things changed after that.

I am the first generation of German refugees from the aftermath of WWII. I am very well versed in the Nazi and Communist sh.t storm that butchered tens of millions of people.

I weep and my heart breaks with what I see happening to this country and other democratic countries around the world. I am so glad my parents are not alive to see this. They told me when I was a youngster, what happened in Europe will never happen in North America. History is repeating itself; and the bully's are once again becoming emboldened.

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Not so it clearly mentions 470, 500 etc.
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The calibers on the list are .600 NE and .700 NE. rest are fine. You have to click on the side link to see the calibers affected.
 
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Anything with a barrel diameter over 20mm or having the ability to produce 10,000 joules, (7375.621 foot pounds), of energy or more are banned.

The 20mm rule has effectively banned all 12 bore guns with interchangeable chokes. The measurement is made from the deepest cut of the thread for the choke.

This seizure is not about preventing gun crime. It's about disarming the Canadian subjects.

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Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways-scotch in one hand-Chocolate in the other-body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WHOO-HOO, WHAT A RIDE!!"

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Double rifles and Black Rifle Coffee. Have the FOOLS figured out they banned coffee the first time? Idiots and no sense of humor. Where do you Canucks find these people and are they allowed to breed? For Shame. Be Well, Packy.


Don't talk too soon! We are about to have the same idiots in a Demarcate congress, who wants to take our second amendment out of the bill of rights here in the USA!
I think we need to send all the demarcates to Canada to join Trudeau, and see how well that works for Canada.
Trudeau is just like Trump, in letting his alligator mouth over load his humming bird ass!

Wake up people, Hell is coming to breakfast!
I'm not a Dem, but Trump needs to learn his mouth is getting our Asses in a pool of hot water!

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Now Mac, that is just mean and hurtful.

We have enough problems with all the leftys in this country. We don't need anymore from the South.

In fact, I was thinking wouldn't it be nice if all our Liberal types would move South to Chicago, New York, San Francisco to get out of our hair but not contaminate the rest of your area.
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