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That looks great,one of these days when the $ bills are smiling at me Big Grin,I am going to scratch the itch & commission a DR in 45-90 with a long throat,400 gr at 2150 is my goal,& the ability to shoot 45-70 ammo,the rifle cannot weigh more than 8lbs.


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Your goal should be reasonable.
Grizzly cartridge loaded 450 grain NF bullets to 2150 fps MV for my 1886 45-90 and they were lethal!


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Great stuff, but you should have posted here, more followers now days .

Is that one of Bobs fine quality builds & you have his .405Win to ?

We talked about a .577LNE back in the day & he was even going to give my pointers if he couldn't do it himself, he was a great bloke !

Actually you could of gone 45/120 & had full 450 Nitro power with ease, not that the 45/90 isn't a powerful cartridge loaded up .
 
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Sarge,
As a matter of fact this was Bob's personal hunting rifle that I did not know he had. After he passed, the person who had "dubs" on it did not buy it and I bought it from the estate. It came with good pre-build documentation which I ran through the equations and saw it was plenty strong enough for a 45-90 to shoot 450 grain NF at 2150 fps.

The only picture that shows the true colors was taken when I unpacked it. The exhibition grade wood is very nice. I think I have found a way to adjust the color on the computer to match the actual wood very well. If so there several pics that I will adapt colors rather than take a bunch of new ones.

Did you know Bob? He was a nice guy and I miss our email conversations.


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Actually you could of gone 45/120 & had full 450 Nitro power with ease, not that the 45/90 isn't a powerful cartridge loaded up .


Sarge,
my Miroku/Winchester .45-90 WCF has taken ele, cape buffs, leopard, Nilgai, water buff, etc and I am fully aware of the potential of the rifle. Having researched the issue BEFORE even buying my 1886 years ago, I knew the .45-90 with modern bullets and powder can kill anything walking. For Africa, I chose 450 grain North Fork and the brass Punch bullets and they did a great job at 2150 fps; all at safe pressures. In fact, I liked the cartridge so much that I had been looking for a DR in the caliber and was negotiating with Bob to build one for me.

When the freezing rain and such abate, I plan to take my 45-90 DR out to shoot some hogs and exotics. It is still with Aaron Little so he can replace the present scope mount with a QD mount and file the express sights to match the regulation. Then I get to shoot it!

PS when the upgrade project is completely done, I will post here and a couple of other places that are appropriate.


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Sarge,
Here is real color of the exhibition grade wood and bling:


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Yes that is a beauty & with those ballistics can take near all game with ease !

Same as your self, only knew Bob on the net & from PM's & later emails, seems like he was a very nice bloke, very helpful & talented !

Actually I think your .405Win with the 400gr slugs could take most game to !
 
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Actually I think your .405Win with the 400gr slugs could take most game to !


Agreed on .405 WCF as my 1895 .405 has already taken a Cape Buff and water buff. My .405 dr has only taken hogs, Nilgai, and red deer with 300 grain bullets at 2250 fps. Good fun too.


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The project 45-90 is beautiful!

I'm curious, what would you guess is the longest shot you've taken with a double rifle?
 
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Thanks for the compliment on the rifle.

Longest shot? Well, I have shot doves and pheasant and one goose at 50-60 yards with my Parker doubles.

But you mean with double rifles?
Actually less than with my Parkers.
From 2 yards(feral hog) out to less than 50 (red deer).


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Thanks! Just curious. Playing with the idea of a small caliber double and wondering if I can extend the range to make it more versatile.
 
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Thanks! Just curious. Playing with the idea of a small caliber double and wondering if I can extend the range to make it more versatile.


Some shooters have scopes on their DR'S,you can sight in the right barrel & shoot as far as you want,just for fun I have tried 200 yrd shots with my 30-06 O/U Beretta iron sights,off a rest 200 gr factory ammo gave me about 6" groups


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Bill73,
you mean like this?


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No need to limit yourself to just one barrel for longer range shooting IF ...

Your rifle is properly regulated and

You spend the time required at the loading bench / range developing a load that comes close to shooting parallel between the two barrels.

I did this for my Chapuis 9.3x74R and have taken quite a bit of game at "extended" DR range without issue.
 
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Thanks Todd,
That is what I am hoping to do.


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I have tried 200 yrd shots with my 30-06 O/U Beretta iron sights,off a rest 200 gr factory ammo gave me about 6" groups


Nice! I've only ever shot to 100 yards with a double. I'm glad to get an idea of the accuracy you got at 200. I have an itch to see how far I can push it.
 
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That accuracy may be all you need for big game.


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Update:
Shot double at 100 yards and it is in the 10 ring!

Loaded 45-70 ammo with same 350 SS bullets to 2075 fps and that shot came 5 inches under the 45-90 shot. My plan is to work up 45-70 loads that will also regulate and use them for closer in game like hogs or deer.


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Another update:
Last Saturday on a Texas exotic ranch, I shot a black buck at 100 yards with my 45-90 DR and handloaded NF 350 SS at around 2200 fps. Picked the meat up from the processor today and hope to grill some soon.


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350's @ 2200 sounds perfect tu2


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Could probably do Cape Buffalo with those ballistics.
 
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Yes if you are tired of living rotflmo

Just kidding, a quality solid in the right spot would work for sure .


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The current bullets are .458 350 grain North Fork at 2200 and I have already taken Cape Buff with .411 400 grain Woodie at 2100 fps.
Those seem to be in the same ball park.

When the darn Texas wind stops blowing 20 - 30 MPH, I will do some testing with new barrel mounted chronograph to finalize velocity records.


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I love the 45-90 and owned and hunted with one a good bit in years gone by, It was the best of the 86s my opine..Judge G booked a hunt from me and had one in a 95, long throated and it was the exact balistic twin of a 450-400-3". He killed a supere nice bull with it on that safari with Pierre van Tonder.


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