Was such a cartridge loaded commercially?

This could be a 6.5 I could love.

I think old loads were 140 grain bullet at 2660.

There does appear no reason it could not match the 7mm/08 with 140 grain bullets.

It would be fun to play with but one can get comparable performance from the 6.5X55 Swede. I still love the 6.5X54 Mannlicher. But hey, that's what we like to spend our money on, right?

Prvi Partizan makes it, Graf&Sons carries it.

Thank you guys. To improve on the 6.55 Sweade wichimi have, it appears one would need to step up to the 6.5-284 or 6.5/06.

I really like the the 6mm Remington (which used the 57 mm case. I love the 7mm/08. In the 7mm/08 and 6.5 Sweade we use 140 grain bullets.

Looking at the 6 Remington and 7mm/08 this evening, I thought a 6.5x57 would be a better 140 grain bullet thrower.

6,5*284 Norma are designed to clean up a 6,5*55 chamber, for 6,5-06 the barrel needs to be set back a bit. 6,5*55 BJ Ackley can give some extra speed with modern rifle pressure.

Ballistically, the 6.5x57 and 6.5x55 are twins.

If it is higher veloicty you crave, then the 6.5-284 Norma, 6.5x65, or 6.5-06 are share the same boltface and offer a boost in velocity.

The 6.5 PRC seems interesting...what the Creedmore thinks it is.

You know JonP, my Creedmore hype hate is well documented here. However, I fully agree with you on the 6.5PRC. I still would not shoot elk with it at 600 yards.

I just like the look of the 57mm based cartridges as I have a nostalgic bent to me.

The 264 WM May come my way one day or the 6.5/06.

Until then I will keep enjoying the 6.5x55 Sweade. The original, reigning, undefeated, 6.5 Creedmore.

Hornady has data for the 6.5 X 257.
which is what the 6.5 X 57 round is called half the time and what RCBS die sets are marked.

I didn't know that [until i turned the page]
and just started with 6.5 X 55 data since all I wanted was a 140 going over 2800 fps.
the 6.5 PRC does that [barely, but it gets there]

I have a commercial 6.5x57 in a BRNO Model 21. Prvi loads 6.5x57 ammo.

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Originally posted by Lamar:
Hornady has data for the 6.5 X 257.
which is what the 6.5 X 57 round is called half the time and what RCBS die sets are marked.

I didn't know that [until i turned the page]
and just started with 6.5 X 55 data since all I wanted was a 140 going over 2800 fps.
the 6.5 PRC does that [barely, but it gets there]

Hornady's data is for the 6.5x57 not the 6.5x257. At least not in handbooks 8 and 9. For all intents and purposes the data for the two is interchangeable. But, though the data is interchangeable, the cartridges and dies are not. I've owned them both.

There is also a commercial 6.5x57R, a rimmed version. Brass is available from RWS but can be hard to find. Loaded ammo is also available. I have a single shot chambered for the round. Load data was very hard to come by and I ended up looking at load data for the 6.5x55 as a starting point. I shoot a pretty mild load using a 120 gr barnes x bullet. Works great for deer and pigs.
I also shoot the PRC. I have been very pleased with its performance as well. The incredibly high BC bullets that are available really make this an outstanding cartridge. I know that there are other 6.5's that are just as fast or even faster but I did not own any of them so I took a chance on the PRC. I have only shot the factory Hornady ELD-X on game but so far they have performed very well. I am getting ready to try some Berger 156 EOL's. Hopefully I will have some loaded by the end of the week. JB

Hi Guys
As well as a couple of 6.5x55 I have a Zoli combination 12g over 6.5x57R taken Impala and Blacktail with it. I have been loading 120gr TTSX works beautifully.This gun and it’s twin in 12g/222 are both on the never sell list.
Take care. Bill

Gents I know we are splitting hairs here but so what?! This is our interest. I have been playing with wildcats for over 40 years because it's just that, fun + interest. As far as building a better mousetrap; P.O. Ackley did that for me years ago. (But don't stop trying"!)

My 6.5x57mm is a Dan'l Fraser, built in Scotland on a Mannlicher-Schoenauer Model 1903 action.

It's a great little rifle.

I'll bet it is! the M/S 1903 is my favorite.

It's a popular cartridge in Germany and we see quite a few 6.5x57 rifles in the UK. Ballistically pretty much a 6.5 Creedmore, but generally loaded with 154gn bullets. Its ideal for Roe deer, but also perfect for the bigger Red Deer - certainly the smaller Scottish mountain deer.

https://www.ballisticstudies.c...edgebase/6.5x57.html

The 6.5x57R in a light kipplauf stalking rifle is a bucket list item for me. I think it would be my one rifle to use for a majority of my deer hunting.

Brno made the 6.5x57 in the model 21 and 22, along with the 7x57, 8x57, 7x64.

Like you Im a nostalgic and had to have the caliber and built myself one on a G33-40 action. After playing with it for a year or so, I punched it out to a 6.5/06, then to a 6.5 Gibbs, at which point I decided the 7x57 and 270 were just as good...I also had a 6.5 1903 Manlicher S.at one time, loved that little rifle, but rifles have a habit of moving on in my world!

I do have a Greek surplus 1903 in the safe earmarked for a little full stocked carbine. Even bought the 6.5x54 reamer to rebarrel...one of these days!

I built my 6.5x57 on a 1916 Erfurt small ring action


First scope is 4-16 Nikon but changed to 2.5-8 Leupold


Either with scope on or aperture sights this is a delightfull rifle for the hill country and the lighter bodied goats and deer I hunt. The 139gn Privi C&C bullet at 2800fps is devestating so have no need for the lighter 120gn TTSX that runs at 2950fps and have not tried the heavier 154 to 160 weights

Dam it! I feel like I am starting to get the 6.5 fever.


Someone hand me a 6.5 Creedmore, so I can reject the virus. Lovely rifle Van. Is that 139 grain load at 2800 FPS a factory load? That is 6.5 Swede speed.

Everybody should have one.

I tried to become a 6.5 person, really did, but the results on game wasn't all that impressive, not like the wonder gun I read about and pumped up my nostalgic self so I went the gamit in calibers..Liked the 6.5x57 best by far, but guess I was just too much of a 7mm and 30 caliber fan to drank the koolaid..

I love that rifle Von Gruff. Simple and deadly. WDM Bell would have been proud to provide camp meat and pack saddles for the tusks with that.
He loved his 6.5 for taking of everything but the elephants. Not quite as zippy as your 6.5x57 but evidently quite good enough.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Dam it! I feel like I am starting to get the 6.5 fever.


Someone hand me a 6.5 Creedmore, so I can reject the virus. Lovely rifle Van. Is that 139 grain load at 2800 FPS a factory load? That is 6.5 Swede speed.

Not factory, it is my handload

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Originally posted by Fury01:
I love that rifle Von Gruff. Simple and deadly. WDM Bell would have been proud to provide camp meat and pack saddles for the tusks with that.
He loved his 6.5 for taking of everything but the elephants. Not quite as zippy as your 6.5x57 but evidently quite good enough.

Thank you. I made the stock with a blind mag and used the cut off portion of the BM for the trigger guard and love the rounded underside ofm the stock(and the reduction in the wieght.

This is my Dan'l Fraser.

Bell never fouled his 6.5 barrel with a soft point bullet, shot only solids, mostly brain shots according to his writtings.

I have a rifle in 6.5 Dutch that has a little pitting spot in the chamber which the 6.5X57 would clean up.
Anybody have a rimmed reamer on hand?

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Originally posted by Atkinson:
I tried to become a 6.5 person, really did, but the results on game wasn't all that impressive, not like the wonder gun I read about and pumped up my nostalgic self so I went the gamit in calibers..Liked the 6.5x57 best by far, but guess I was just too much of a 7mm and 30 caliber fan to drank the koolaid..

It would almost seem irrational for someone to love the performance of the 250 Savage, as you do, and not like the 6.5 Creedmoor and it’s ancient progenitors. However, I have an analogous relationship with the 270Win vs the 7mm Mauser, 280 Rem, and 7x64. Rationally, I know they are all fantastic, but the 270 has always made me yawn.

Von gruff
I bought 500 of the privi 156 and have some loaded in my 260 at about 2600ish I would guess. Going to put one through a whitetail this year or maybe New Year’s Day. I also bought shooters world precision powder and loaded it on Varget data. Nice little load.
Shalom

Here's one of my Oberndorf sporters in 6.5X57. It has been restocked and fitted with a Zeiss Zielklein scope in a Griffin & Howe windage adjustable side mount.

I would like a MS carbine in 6.5x54 (or was it 55)
as much for the gun as the caliber..I had one years ago and shot deer and antelope with it..It was a fun gun for sure and old world class..

Colorado Matt,
Never try to figure out what goes on in a gun nuts head, in my case why Im a 250-3000 fan and not a 6.5 fan, not even I know that, nor do I care..such would be totally unreasonable!!

Cute gauge

That is one beautiful Mauser built-in old-world charm. Ray, the M/S is 6.5 X 54. I love mine. If it's good enough for Hemingway, it's good enough for me!

For performance, before the PRC, there was the 6.5 RSAUM. I’ve built 5 or 6 of them, lightweight 24” barrel, 3200 fps with 130’s and 3100 with the 140’s. Outpaces the PRC by 75-100fps and is a great performer in a light handy rifle. Built one for a good friend on a model seven action. Bare rifle was just ove 6lbs and it is one handy SOB that shoots very close to 1/2 MOA, easily under 3/4. More of a western deer, antelope, sheep rifle than elk IMO though.

I shoot a 6.5x57R in a 5.5lb takedown single shot. Have taken dozens of whitetail with it. I primarily shoot a 120TTSX at 2900fps. Been playing with the 127LRX and might change to that.

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Originally posted by McKay:
I shoot a 6.5x57R in a 5.5lb takedown single shot. Have taken dozens of whitetail with it. I primarily shoot a 120TTSX at 2900fps. Been playing with the 127LRX and might change to that.

Sounds like a wonderful rifle, details?

All this balistic bla bla about velocity and which 6.5 is the best, made me realize what Ive known for years!! the 6.5 that made the caliber famous in Africa and world wide shot a 160 bullet as long as a #2 pencil at 2200 FPS and penetrated like crazy as velocity is the biggest enemy of penetration, then when they went to 140 gr bullets at high velocity, famous hunters of yesterday started gett'en et by Lions for giving up that penetration, as the bullets blew up or whatever...interesting subject. Bell preferred the 7x57 for buffalo with head shots.