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More Creedmoor: "any deer within half a mile would be afraid to show his tines" okay... https://coldboremiracle.com/20...rd-the-25-creedmoor/ | ||
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I'm tempted to get a Savage 99 in 250 Savage and run a 6CM reamer in it to make a 25CM 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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That would soup it up. Maybe get a 6 creed bushing die with a 25 Bushing in it. | |||
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What a waste of a 250-3000 for no change in ballistics.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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but it would say creedmore on it which adds 300 yards to the price. | |||
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Oh, of course, why didn't I think of that!  and what an investment you wouldl end up with!!!  Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Same cartridge, different name, by Richard Mann: www.outdoorhub.com/amp/index.p...idge-2fity-hillbilly Matt FISH!! Heed the words of Winston Smith in Orwell's 1984: "Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right." | |||
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I have two of P.O. Akleys favorite Imp. cartridge rifles. The 250-3000 AI. Would not expect the CM case to be of any benefit. NRA Patron Life Member Benefactor Level | |||
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Why is the 6.5 CM a success? It is not just an idiot but a village, a whole ecosystem of good things working together. The 250-3000 AI may be great as a full custom but if you get full custom results from off the shelf guns and ammo, there is the magic. If the industry supports a 25CM it would be incredible for the quarter bore as a whole but especially for the hopefully soon to be 25CM. 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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[quote]If the industry supports a 25CM it would be incredible for the quarter bore as a whole..." Agreed. "If" being the operative word. Until then would still be a wildcat that has already been done. My calculations show a 1 Gr.(water) capacity advantage for the old 250 AI over the Creedmoor. NRA Patron Life Member Benefactor Level | |||
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A +P 257 Roberts with high BC bullets in a long action would be something. 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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The lack of any readily available .257 long range bullets is the problem. The 257 AI is an awesome whitetail deer round. NRA Patron Life Member Benefactor Level | |||
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The 131 grain .257” Blackjack Ace bullet seems to be the knees of bees for high BC.
577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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WOW!!! That is exactly what the 25-06 and 257 Wby. have been waiting for. Thanks for the heads up. I had never heard of them. NRA Patron Life Member Benefactor Level | |||
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Still a custom barrel option, don’t know of any 1-7 or even 8 twist factory barrels needed for that Blackjack bullet. I do like the 25’s though, I have a 250 Savage Browning BLR and a 25-284 on a Win 70 SA with a 3.050” Mag box. Both shoot extremely well. Shoot straight, shoot often. Matt | |||
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http://www.x-caliber.net/ Here is the link where to get the barrel he used in the article https://blackjackbullets.com/p...lets/?v=7516fd43adaa the above link will help you with other 257 high BC items if you scroll to the bottom. 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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Again the big mistake is trying to make a magnum out of a nice easy recoiling accurate rifle that doesn't bellow like a bull moose in heart.. that is a perfect deer rifle as is, both the 6.5 Creedmore as is or the 250-3000 std factory round. If you need all that velocity, blast and recoil go to a 25-06 or a 257 wby..Its the old saying, "Trying to make a silk purse out of a sows ear" or "man is a walking contradiction, some fact but mostly fiction" in this case. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Ray, I believe what you, and perhaps others, are ignoring is the potential benefit of, for lack of a better description, of a Creedmoor’ updated 250 Savage. One that is factory capable of, due to its fast twist rifling, handling 1.350” to 1.500” long high-BC target and hunting bullets loaded to a maximum 2.800” or 2.825” COAL which would work in all current or 50 year old factory SA rifles. It definitely wouldn’t be some “magnumized” cartridge as it’s PMAX wouldn’t exceed 62K psi. Jim  "Life's hard; it's harder if you're stupid" John Wayne | |||
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Ray, I can see that you're a Kristofferson fan as well. Never mistake motion for action. | |||
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Yeah and I like willys singing anyway..  Doc, Try the Nosler Accubonds in a 25 caliber, long range capable.. I don't argue with wildcatters, its just a waste of time, their head be made up!! and they can justify any project with fiddle faddle..Load a wildcat with 60 gr.s of Bull shit and you got winner!!  Just kidding, but been there and done did it.Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Willies ranch is not far from me. It tickles me when these out of towners start seeing celebrities in the music industry at the grocery store, etc. Hell, everybody eats. The same would happen in L.A. with running into movie stars. Oh yeah, there goes another one. Its just business as usual here. Never mistake motion for action. | |||
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Building that exact rifle right now for the wife, a FN Mauser 30-06 being rebarreled to 257 Roberts withe a 22 inc Douglas #4 contour. | |||
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Under the new "less is more" they will give lower velocity  | |||
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If you do a bit of research you will find they used the 250 Savage case as a basis for a line of cartridges. They called them Internationals. They came in many bore sizes. Used a lot in metalic silhouette shooting. Low recoil and used high ballistic bullets. This line of cartridges is very similar to te Creedmoor case. The 250 Savage Imp is another very close case. So the 25 CM was built a long time ago. Just under a different name. Leo The only way to know if you can do a thing is to do it. | |||
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I think shooting anything ending in Creedmoor or less requires you to state "No homo" after each shot. What force or guile could not subdue, Thro' many warlike ages, Is wrought now by a coward few, For hireling traitor's wages. | |||
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Ahh, secret agent .007", a license to quill... | |||
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Partly. The full phrase, again stated after each shot, is "You too sexy, no homo." Say it after me, but be sure not to mispronounce "no" as "mo." | |||
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And here's a nice .257 128 gr mono-copper hollow point with a G7 .244 BC hunting bullet: https://hammerbullets.com/prod...-128g-hammer-hunter/ Jim "Life's hard; it's harder if you're stupid" John Wayne | |||
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