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Most load data is not for a short barrel pistol

What is a great powder for the 45ACP with a 2" tube

Bullseye is my current goto 45 powder


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Barrel length has nothing to do with powder selection.


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Bullseye is my current goto 45 powder


I would use the Bullseye it about as fast as you can get.

What 45 do you have with a 2 inch barrel?
 
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Springfield xds micro

It's listed at about 3" but only has 2" in front of the chamber


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Burn rate is decided by the cartridge and bullet not barrel length. The same powders that give the most velocity in full sized acp's will also be fastest in short barrels as well.


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A 45 acp auto with barrel less than 4" should use light bullets, 200, 185, and similar ! That's for proper cycling.
 
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Barrel length has nothing to do with powder selection.


<sigh>

Not even worth responding to.

Bullseye is probably your best bet.


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Barrel length has nothing to do with powder selection.


<sigh>

Not even worth responding to.

Bullseye is probably your best bet.



What I posted is a fact, not an assumption.


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It was my understanding that most pistol powders except magnums burn in the first 2 inches of barrel. The fast powders burn in the first inch and the slower powders burn in the second inch.

I'd try picking a powder and load for reliability first, and next see how accuracy is. I don't have any 2" guns so I don't know if loading for accuracy for that barrel length is even possible. Smiler


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I don't have any 2" guns so I don't know if loading for accuracy for that barrel length is even possible.


2 inch guns are mostly inaccurate to some because of their size and sighting length.

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Good shot in double action. That is usually what kills accuracy.


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Good shot in double action. That is usually what kills accuracy.


I hardly ever shoot my double action revolvers single action.
 
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A 45 acp auto with barrel less than 4" should use light bullets, 200, 185, and similar ! That's for proper cycling.


Just a warning. I have a Springfield XDS in 45ACP. I tried light bullets in mine (Hornady 185's). The gun is hard on bullets when loading and was setting back bullets regularly. There just isn't enough shank on the light bullets to keep them from being driven back into the case. I've never had a failure of any kind with 230gr round nose or hollow points, and the heavier bullets stay put in the case.
 
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P Dog, I admit to shooting less DA than I should. Probably about 70% of the time with the revolver I used to carry (.357 snub nose), maybe 10 to 15% with my 6 inch .357. When I take the service 9's out the SIG is always first round DA, the Beretta depends on how I am shooting. For bull's eye, everything is SA. For quals it was DA first round or when redrawn. My typical carry is a Glock 30SF.

Lapidry, not getting into a reloaded ammo tangent but were they factory loaded 185's? I have only shot a mag or two of the Hornady. I carry Golden Saber 185 +P's in my Glock 30SF.

Ted, I typically don't reload carry ammo because I don't shoot as much of it. I load practice ammo for the same weight and velocity (recoil similarity). My logic is that I buy a few hundred to carry and shoot them when I rotate mags, for practice I don't need to shoot expensive bullets on targets.


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A 45 acp auto with barrel less than 4" should use light bullets, 200, 185, and similar ! That's for proper cycling.


Just a warning. I have a Springfield XDS in 45ACP. I tried light bullets in mine (Hornady 185's). The gun is hard on bullets when loading and was setting back bullets regularly. There just isn't enough shank on the light bullets to keep them from being driven back into the case. I've never had a failure of any kind with 230gr round nose or hollow points, and the heavier bullets stay put in the case.



I have to down load one round to get 185's to feed in my XDS's--other than that , no problems and the slightly lighter recoil does help in the little gun.


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Lapidry, not getting into a reloaded ammo tangent but were they factory loaded 185's? I have only shot a mag or two of the Hornady. I carry Golden Saber 185 +P's in my Glock 30SF.


Yes, factory. I'm guessing the bullets are hitting the steep feed ramp and setting back a little every time they are loaded.
 
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I'd say either the feed ramp top of the chamber. I have a 1911/that won't feed 185 semi was cutters. They come up out of the mag and don't turn down into the chamber. They could be hitting the top of the chamber and making back in. Either way, I was curious if they were factory Hornady loads since it was something I hadn't seen before.


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Is this ammo to be used for carry in a self defense gun?






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So what if it is? Are we going to restart the mythical extra deadly bullet debate? If it functions reliably and isn't over pressure he can carry whatever ammo he chooses.


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If its a handload they don't have a factory load to compare to for blood splatter and stuff.

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So what if it is? Are we going to restart the mythical extra deadly bullet debate? If it functions reliably and isn't over pressure he can carry whatever ammo he chooses.






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If struck with a 185 grain bullet at 10 feet or 100 yards the velocity change will change the wound path and blood spatter. There is no legal requirement to carry a factory round.


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Dude, I , never said anything about legal requirements. I don't know why you are getting so emotional.
Carrying a gun is about a lot of compromises. If the guy knows the advantages and disadvantages of carrying handloads and still chooses to carry them, that's his choice. But if he makes choices without info that is a bad thing.
I understand that a handgun sucks at actually stopping people compared to the 12 gauge or ar15 which I could legally carry. But I choose to carry a crappy gunfight tool for my own convenience. I know it's a bad choice, but at least I know.

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If struck with a 185 grain bullet at 10 feet or 100 yards the velocity change will change the wound path and blood spatter. There is no legal requirement to carry a factory round.






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Never mind. Not worth the side track.


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I used high burning rate powders like the 700 X Hi Skor behind a 200 grains SWC when I was loading for one.
 
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