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Originally posted by DesertRam:
My wife has a very difficult time manipulating firearms because of RA. As it has gotten worse, she had to give up her beloved PPK/S because it's just too stiff - she can't work the slide or fully seat a magazine any more. So we went on the prowl for a new carry piece. She has no interest in a revolver and wanted an active safety, since that's what she has shot and trained with since buying her PPK/S when she turned 21. I really wanted her to have a 9mm, so that's where we started. After much searching, we got serious about two - the Sig P938 and Taurus PT709 slim. Unfortunately, she wasn't able to work the slide on the 938 as effectively as she wanted, so we went with the Taurus. It worked, but wasn't really what she wanted. She toted it for a while until we found something better. Enter the Sig Sauer P238. When she first held one of these, it was nearly love at first sight. All the features she wanted in a package that she can easily manipulate, accurately shoot, and quickly reload. Yes it's only a .380, but she actually carries it and likes to shoot it well enough that she practices. I'd rather she have a firearm that she's proficient with than one she carries grudgingly because it's more powerful, so, a .380 it is.

Have your daughter check out the little Sigs (P938 and P238). They are very nice firearms that seem tailor made for small hands and easy concealment.

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Originally posted by Shootshellz:
Yup, that is the reason revolvers are so great for women (and men). No slide to retract, no safety to operate, no wondering if there is a round in the chamber, no limp wristing induced jams, no remembering how to clear different types of jams, no ejecting dud rounds. YANK AND CRANK (times 5 or 6) with zero jams (and quickly skipping dud rounds) is what you want in a stressful situation. Especially for those who do not practice regularly.

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The problem with revolvers is that if you do get a malfunction, you are done. And you won't be reloading it, period.

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Originally posted by Gatogordo:
I'm glad you wife found a weapon she is comfortable with.

However, not to point out the obvious, but all she has to do with a 9mm of whatever brand is let you load it, put the safety on (unless it's a Glock), and carry it. Same thing on the range if she wants to practice. The ability to work the slide and seat a magazine certainly would be nice but are not at all necessary for a defensive weapon. In modern day, the number of times a female private citizen has used a 7 or more shot weapon in DEFENSE and has had the necessity to reload to continue her defense is probably nearly zero.

Personally, I leave fully loaded weapons all over the house when I'm gone that my wife might not know all about, nor have the ability to reload, BUT she damn sure knows how to aim and pull the trigger. I just tell her to shoot until the problem is gone or down, whichever comes first. That's enough AFA I'm concerned. YMMV.

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Originally posted by RyanB:

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Originally posted by Shootshellz:
Yup, that is the reason revolvers are so great for women (and men). No slide to retract, no safety to operate, no wondering if there is a round in the chamber, no limp wristing induced jams, no remembering how to clear different types of jams, no ejecting dud rounds. YANK AND CRANK (times 5 or 6) with zero jams (and quickly skipping dud rounds) is what you want in a stressful situation. Especially for those who do not practice regularly.

The problem with revolvers is that if you do get a malfunction, you are done. And you won't be reloading it, period.

People who aren't willing to learn to shoot shouldn't have guns.

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Originally posted by frank4570:
Another vote for a revolver for all of the reasons already listed. Unless she already has a choice, in which case go with that.

There is a 911 call on the web that is kind of famous now. The woman is on the phone with 911 dispatch as her stalker breaks into her house. Then as she is barricaded in her bedroom he smashes his way through that door. She is screaming for help as he strangles her. She puts 2 slugs in his chest with a revolver somebody lent her because she was scared. She didn't even own a gun. I'll bet her training was zero. 2 good shots at 0 feet under horrible conditions.

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Originally posted by p dog shooter:

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Originally posted by frank4570:
Another vote for a revolver for all of the reasons already listed. Unless she already has a choice, in which case go with that.

There is a 911 call on the web that is kind of famous now. The woman is on the phone with 911 dispatch as her stalker breaks into her house. Then as she is barricaded in her bedroom he smashes his way through that door. She is screaming for help as he strangles her. She puts 2 slugs in his chest with a revolver somebody lent her because she was scared. She didn't even own a gun. I'll bet her training was zero. 2 good shots at 0 feet under horrible conditions.

There are many self defense shootings out there where the defender had little or no training.

Does that make it ideal no, did it work yes, would having some training be better most likely but it is hard to argue with success.

Personally I think if one has a firearm for defense one should have some training in its use.

Put then as a professional Firearms instructor and self-defense trainer. I think the more training the better.