Less than a week to go and I'll be home. Good news is that by I get out of isolation I can travel 150km from my home. That will allow me to go for a fish at least. At the end of June I can go 250km from home for a hunt

It's nice to have that freedom again. Here, most hunters having been looking forward to getting back into the hills. We have eased to Lockdown 2 level which opened public land hunting again and I think a surge of hunters has probably headed in.
I was planning to be one of them but a reoccurring heart condition is keeping me grounded for now. Hopefully though in a few weeks I'll be good to go.

Sad that “freedom” was so easily taken in the name of”safety”

Bad sign

Yes - this has been an international exercise in seeing how easily the whole population can be scared and coerced into cooperating .

And all based on lies and mis-information. The NZ government has had a field day.....

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I was planning to be one of them but a reoccurring heart condition is keeping me grounded for now. Hopefully though in a few weeks I'll be good to go

Damn man. You all right?

Get it whipped my friend I need more of your hunting stories!

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JTEX
posted 18 May 2020 12:15
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I was planning to be one of them but a reoccurring heart condition is keeping me grounded for now. Hopefully though in a few weeks I'll be good to go


Damn man. You all right?

Get it whipped my friend I need more of your hunting stories!

Jim,
Thanks mate. Great to heart from you, as it is anytime. Hoping you and your good lady are staying safe.

For sure, I want to whip my current ailment. I'm experiencing another episode of arrhythmia from atrial fibrillation. For some reason the meds which have been reliable for years seem to have stopped working. I became aware of arrythmia in Cameroon in February but it seemed to correct quickly and didn't hinder my hunt as far as I could tell. Post returning to NZ it reoccurred in very pronounced expression and my cardiologist is trying another meds regime to sort it. So far two blood thinners have induced urine blood so now I need my bladder checked for possible issues. I'm seeing my Urologist tomorrow for an invasive 'scopy ( via the firehose ) of the bladder. Not looking forward to that one. What my cardiologist is heading to is cardioversion in a few weeks to restart my heart in regular rhythm. My last one was in 2008 and it made a huge improvement. Hoping for the same result this time.

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Originally posted by muzza:
how easily the whole population can be scared and coerced into cooperating .

I reckon that there was more copulating than co-operating ha ha.
What else did most do stuck at home with the wife?

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gryphon1
posted 18 May 2020 17:36

I reckon that there was more copulating than co-operating ha ha.
What else did most do stuck at home with the wife?

You might be hitting the nail square on the head there Gryph.
Some doctor on TV over here reckoned we could see a births spike in 9 months. Supposedly people were doing a heap of baking during Lockdown. Maybe more the case of "buns in the oven" to describe it properly.

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Grant very likely ! And in 30 odd years time the world will be run by home schooled persons who were educated by alcoholic parents during the Corona times !!


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Originally posted by muzza:
Yes - this has been an international exercise in seeing how easily the whole population can be scared and coerced into cooperating .

And all based on lies and mis-information. The NZ government has had a field day.....

Jair Bolsonaro been on the phone seeking your advice on controlling the pandemic then? Sounds like it’s working a treat.

In New Zealand , every day , on average 93 people die of natural causes. Thats approx 34,000 a year .

With this virus , NZ has had 20 people die of "covid related issues"in the 8 weeks since lock down . Thats 0.35 people a day.Of those 20 people the vast majority were over 75 years old and had major health issues , and would have died over the winter anyway from flue-related illnesses.

Pandemic ? What pandemic?

As an exercise in control of the masses , the hype , hysteria and media manipulation has played completely into the hands of our unelected princess and her socialist controlling views. And a large percentage of the population are too infatuated with her to see through the lies.

I say again - Pandemic - what pandemic?

How true.
And the opposition are too bland to capitalize on this situation.
Winston is worried so kicked some Asian balls for the publicity while the Greens just smirk from the shadows. What a clusterfuck.

We're finally getting up the bush and some of my mates moan about why couldn't go much earlier, since covid was no big deal here or in NZ and most hunting is all about physical distancing. However, much of the reason it was no big deal was because our governments closed down hard and reasonably fast.

While deer stalking could have been allowed much earlier, the Victorian government had obviously had a lot of submissions from the ADA over the years and assumed many of us were 'hound hunters' who sit around camp fires in large numbers.

Some people point out the cost in lives of people thrown out of work, many of whom are emotionally fragile. While I accept that argument and see it as the other side of the 'pink-bats' debate from 11 years ago, one economist here said the only way to resolve the issue is by putting a nominal price on a human life. This she said had been calculated as $5.9 million in Australia and something (I missed) higher in the US. On this basis she said the cost in life and the rescue package would be about $200 billion here under the present situation - but could have been a trillion dollars had we just let the virus have its head.

While I think $5.9 million is a high value to put on lives, esp. ones that have become unproductive in old age, her deliberations should not be ignored.

Therefore, I think we've done it better than in many other places.

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Originally posted by muzza:
In New Zealand , every day , on average 93 people die of natural causes. Thats approx 34,000 a year .

With this virus , NZ has had 20 people die of "covid related issues"in the 8 weeks since lock down . Thats 0.35 people a day.Of those 20 people the vast majority were over 75 years old and had major health issues , and would have died over the winter anyway from flue-related illnesses.

Pandemic ? What pandemic?

As an exercise in control of the masses , the hype , hysteria and media manipulation has played completely into the hands of our unelected princess and her socialist controlling views. And a large percentage of the population are too infatuated with her to see through the lies.

I say again - Pandemic - what pandemic?

Muddy thinking, to put it politely.

Had the NZ government responded more slowly, and in a more laizes faire manner, the death toll per 1m would have been more in line with the likes of Belgium, France, Spain, Italy, UK.

That would mean something like 2000 to 3000 dead in NZ in a period of maybe 6 to 8 weeks.
Just because the severity of something has been ameliorated doesn't mean that the threat didn't, and doesn't, exist.

It isn't dumb luck that NZ and Aus haven't been smashed, although the Aus gov. has been given SFA credit by the lefty media for acting quickly and decisively.

Australia @ 102 iirc deaths attributed to CV atm from a pop of 26 (?) million.
NZ low rate too...in my laymans mind I reckon that the less polluted air in comparison to many of the hard hit places may just have something going for it.

or maybe because we dont all live in crowded tenement buildings stacked on top of each other , travel on overcrowded public transport , or have the oldest population on the planet?

Well arent all that you have cited responsible for air pollution?

Good luck there Grant.

In two days I will no longer work for Air New Zealand but I should still be there in July or August for a short visit.

ANZ did huge layoffs in NZ and in all the airports around the world, including shutting down the US based business that I work for.

I don't even get a day off though, I get laid off from ANZ on May 31st and start with the new company on June 1st.

Hi Frank,
So sorry to hear you've become a victim of the Air New Zealand layoffs. The airline is scaling back hugely to survive post Covid and has laid off thousands of people. It's going to be very tough going for many as they try to find alternative employment in a down market.

Good on you for picking up a new job so promptly. I hope it's just the start of even better things for you. I'll really look forward to catching up when you next get down this way. I'm working my way through something of a health issue currently and hoping all's tickety boo by the time we catch up.

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Originally posted by 30.06king:
Hi Frank,
So sorry to hear you've become a victim of the Air New Zealand layoffs. The airline is scaling back hugely to survive post Covid and has laid off thousands of people. It's going to be very tough going for many as they try to find alternative employment in a down market.

Good on you for picking up a new job so promptly. I hope it's just the start of even better things for you. I'll really look forward to catching up when you next get down this way. I'm working my way through something of a health issue currently and hoping all's tickety boo by the time we catch up.

No worries Mate, I was debating on just retiring but decided to work for a couple more years.

I hope you're better soon.

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Originally posted by gryphon1:
Australia @ 102 iirc deaths attributed to CV atm from a pop of 26 (?) million.
NZ low rate too.

By cracking down hard on infection rates we’ve shifted the mortality rate from the Europeans 3+% to just over 1% as ICU hasn’t been faced with the tough choice of trying to decide who gets access to a ventilator and who gets to die alone in a sealed room.
The UK is easing restrictions this weekend to maintain the life of their economy whilst still expecting
“8000 infections and 400 deaths a day” according to one Academic

One of my mates is relocating to AUS. He was filling out the immigration paperwork and they asked if he had a criminal record.

He didn't know that it was still required.

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Originally posted by Fjold:
One of my mates is relocating to AUS. He was filling out the immigration paperwork and they asked if he had a criminal record.

He didn't know that it was still required.

I happen to have dealt with this recently. It is but not overly critical unless you are a serial killer. The guy who took a white collar plea deal should have no problems assuming he is in a “vital” industry.

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Originally posted by zebrazapper:

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Originally posted by Fjold:
One of my mates is relocating to AUS. He was filling out the immigration paperwork and they asked if he had a criminal record.

He didn't know that it was still required.

I happen to have dealt with this recently. It is but not overly critical unless you are a serial killer. The guy who took a white collar plea deal should have no problems assuming he is in a “vital” industry.

Mate, he didn't know that you had to have a police record.

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Originally posted by Fjold:

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Originally posted by zebrazapper:

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Originally posted by Fjold:
One of my mates is relocating to AUS. He was filling out the immigration paperwork and they asked if he had a criminal record.

He didn't know that it was still required.

I happen to have dealt with this recently. It is but not overly critical unless you are a serial killer. The guy who took a white collar plea deal should have no problems assuming he is in a “vital” industry.

Mate, he didn't know that you had to have a police record.

HaHa, dont drink and read I guess.
Or type either as my comment came out a bit wrong too.
Minus a lead foot, I’m unsullied by legal troubles.
I meant to say that I talked to a client who’s brother in law had some probation come out of a business gone awry and he and his wife had no issue when he got a job down there.