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<.280 Sweden>
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A cartridge like .280 Rem deserve loyal following!

If you can load a cartridge with 110grs "speedyfoxkillers" or "superpenetrators" with a BC around .500 and SD around .300.
Combined with mild recoil and esay to get/make cheap cases you have a winning pure hunting tool.

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Have try the 160grs Barnes XFB with Norma MRP and it shoots great, under one inch from 100yds. Will give it some more tests later with Norma 204.

Now I loading and shooting for Rawdeer hunt in august, proberly will I use 140grs Sierra GameKing 56grs of Norma 204 and CCI BR-2 primer, off course all be packed in Norma cases.
 
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Have some .280 shooters sold yours rifles??
It been quit low activie here for some time. I guees we .280 hunters use our rifel insted of Internet........

Now I have started to load for the new Norma Oryx 156grs bullets, a bonded bullet much like Woodleigh. Can be a good all-purpose bullet for swedish huntig.

Be back with some loadingdata later.
 
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Hi Jonas & all the other 280 fans,
I have found my original load using 140 Gamekings, 54 gr of Viht N160, Fed. 215 primers in RWS brass.
The velocity is 2860 in my 26" barrelled custom 700.
This is a mild load but very accurate. The gunsmith who built the rifle worked up this load & found the best acuracy with 54 gr of N160. He is primarily a builder of bench rest rifles & doesn't pay to much attention to velocity.

Stewart in Scotland
 
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Hi 280 fans,

I recently bought a kilo of Viht. N560 & would like to try it in my 280 Rem. with 140 Gamekings.
I would like to achieve 3000 fps sub 1 MOA, if possible, & don't mind using a hot load, as I won't be firing to many rounds in a year.
I've looked around various sites but can't find any data for N560.

Stewart in Scotland

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Just tried a new load, My daughter is to small to handle the recoil of full loads out of my deer rifles. So I thought that a reduced recoil load that dupicated the 7x30 waters would work. I loaded 35 gr of IMR4198 with a 120 Nosler Bal Tip, 3.29 COL. It shoots great, averages .6 in for 3 shots at 100 yds. Velocity of about 2500fps.

Have used that bullet at that velocity out of a 14 in contender 7x30 waters with great results. If you have a recoil sensitive shooter its a great load.

10/28/02 Update, my daughter just shot her buck with this load. 150 yds down hill with the buck quartering towards us. Deer dropped at the shot. broke his neck right at the point where the neck meets the shoulder. Was snowing hard enough that it was getting hard to see. Was a nice 4x4 whitetail with a spread about 1in. wider than his ears. Will update again when she fills her doe tag. hope to get a broadside on the doe to see how the penetration is.

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Hi Stewart,

Nice to here from you.
At my .280-forum there is one data with N-560:

175grs SPEER N-560 52grs 805m/s
The data is from SPEER manual #13.

This will give you a hint about what startload you will try.

When you have tried the N-560 please send me the data so I can publish them at .280Rem.Sweden forum.

I guess 3000fps with 140grs Game King is very realistic and not to hot, specilly in your 26" barrel.

Nice to get a reduced load for .280! Wich powder fron Norma or Vithavuori is closest to IMR4198?

/jonas
 
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Hi Jonas,
Yes I'll send you the data when I've found the "magic load".
My Speer manual lists IMR 4198 as slower than Norma 200 but faster than 201.
My Vihtavuori manual lists 4198 as a little slower than Viht. N133 but faster than N135.
I have a good reduced velocity load for my 22-250 using Blue dot. I don't know if Blue dot will work in a 30-06 size case. Perhaps someone on the board has tried it?

All the best & Ha-det fra Stewart I Skotland
 
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Right now I'm using RL-22 and wlrm primers with Nosler BT 150's. I have used H4831 with great success.
 
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My favorite all-round cartidge, the .280 Remington at the top again!
 
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Hi,

Have now start my loading for Norma Oryx 156grs, with two diffrent powder.

53grs Norma 204 was not accurate (3")and I stop trying that powder.

55grs Norma MRP was accurate (1,5") so I countine loading with that powder. Will try some diffrent powder weights and C.O.L. Hope I will find a combination that gives me 1" accurance.
 
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I have found the magic load for my 700 mountain rifle.

Rem. brass
Fed. 210
Hor. 139gr.SST
RL-22 58.3 GR.

This load averages 2985 fps with .5" groups @ 100 yds. Pretty good for a light weight factory hunting rifle.
 
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Originally posted by GSF1200:
How about a Rem 742 in .280, that shoot's 3/4" at 100yds with 58gr H4831 and a Hornady 139gr bt.

Is this correct? I thought that the Remington 742 was the short action version of the bolt action Remington 721, and that the short action rifle is too short for the .280 Remington, which is basically a .30-06 necked down to 7mm.
 
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The 742 is the semiauto.
 
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Originally posted by GSF1200:
The 742 is the semiauto.

You're right. My mistake. I confused the 742 and the 722.
 
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Hi 280 friends!

A cartridge that shoot very well for me is:

Nosler Partition 150grs
54grs Norma 204
CCI BR-2

It has work well on Rawdeer, but I have never try it on big game.
Has anybody some experiance of that combination on big game?

/jonas
 
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Howdy,

Ok, all you wonderful .280 Rem. fans, here is my main loads in my Rem. 700 with E.J.Shaw 24" barrelled rifle.
cases - Winchester nickle plated
primer - either CCI or Federal match
c.o.l. - .09 off the lands
bullet 140 gr. Nosler Bal.Tip/ moly coated
H4831SC 58.5 grains produces 2800 fps and 3/8 inch 3 shot groups

bullet 150 gr. Scirroco/ moly coated
H4831SC 58 grains produces 2884 fps and 1 inch groups

Coach
 
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Ok guys, I am beating my self up here... I want to order a 280 barrel, but cant find reason it is better than my 7-08.... Ballistic speaking, they are real close till you get up in bullet weight.

Please advise....

Thanks...
 
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Originally posted by Mauserkid:
I want to order a 280 barrel, but cant find reason it is better than my 7-08.... Ballistic speaking, they are real close till you get up in bullet weight...

One could make the same point (a point that I think is mistaken) about the .308 versus the .30-06. Or, to take it to the next step, the 30-06 versus the .300 Winchester magnum, or even the .280 versus the 7mm Remington mag. [Smile]
 
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Hello to all again! It has been many months since I have had teh pleasure to check out the site.
Summers are tough- too much fishing, golfing and not enough shooting. I still have the #1 and still loading 60 gr of RL22 behing the 140 Nosler BT. Looking for a coyote load though- don't want to blow big holes in them- just little explosions! Anybody got a load or 2 they can share? Haven't had a chance to fool with the accurizer much- it worked relatively well where it was. Also- haven't spilled the liquid of life yet either. Never saw a buck during hunting season. The first time in my life I never saw one during rifle season. I have passed 47 bucks in the last 5 years and was planning on taking the first decent one I saw. IT FIGURES! Anyway- glad to be back and visiting with everyone!
 
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I had to jump into this topic. I received 6 boxes of 140gr Partitions and 3 boxes of 162gr BTSP Hornady bullets along with 3lbs. of H4831. Does anyone have any favorite loads for the 280 Rem. with these components?
BTW my rifle is a Ruger M77 MKII with a Burris 3-9X Fullfield. I haven't fired it in 3 years. Since I have all these freebie components I figured it's time to play with it again.

Rem. 222

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I use 54.5 gr H4831sc or H4831 with CCI BR2 and the Hornady 162 BTSP 3.308 COL for .5-.75 3 shot groups.
 
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Hi .280 friends,

I will start to look for a primary load for moose and wild boar and secondary for deer.
Earlyer have I use 160grs SPEER Grand Slam but will change after all writing about the new bader design. Nosler Partition 160grs is a alternativ and shoots good in my rifle. I have also try Barnes X 160grs and it shoot ok but is very long and take to much room, less powder....
And the Norma Oryx 156grs will not shoot in my rifle, to bad.

Can anyone help my with experiance with other bullets than Partion, want to have some more to try.
Bullets I thinking about is:
160grs Woodleigh PP
160grs Trophy Bonded Bear Claw
160grs Rhino Bonded

Any ideas?

.280 Sweden
 
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What velocities does everyone get with the 150 and 160 Partitions?

Anyone use the 150 on elk?

John
 
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<.280 Sweden>
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Hi John,

I load to 2870 fps with 150 PT and 2800fps for 160 PT witn Norma 204 from a 22" barrel. Not the hottest loads. You gain nothing in reality with hotloads.
Nosler manual says with 26" barrel are max velocity 150 PT 2990fps and for 160 PT 2940 both with IMR 7828.

The 150 PT have taking moose youngsters, no big moose with 150.

.280 Sweden

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It's been my experience that most 280's prefer 150 or 160 grain bullets. Try IMR 7828 with a 160, I think you'll like the results.
 
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You can't go wrong with 160 grain bullets and H4831. Somewhere around 56.5 grains.
 
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John Frazer, I can't help you on those 150 Gr. Nosler Partitions, but I've been using the 160 gr. Nosler Partitions for many years, in my two .280s.

160 gr. Nosler Partition; 54.0 grs. IMR 4350, CCI LRP, new Rem cases = chrono'd 2872 FPS, 3/4" grp.

Both rifles also shoot 3/4"- 1" groups with both the 139 Gr. Hornady PSP Interlok, and the 140 gr. Nosler Partition, in front of IMR 4350 56.0 grs., and 58.0 grs H4831. Again, CCI LRP, etc. Chrono'd at 2990 FPS.

Rifles are Remington 725, 22" bbl., I bought new in 1961, and a "Pachmayr Custom" I had Pachmayr Gun Works, in Los Angeles, build for me in 1978. Cherry DWM 1909 Argentine Mauser action, 22" Apex bbl., Canjar trigger, various and sundry metal work, etc., and a beautiful fiddleback Claro walnut stock. I have long arms so had the length-of-pull set at 15 inches, including recoil pad.

Frank Pachmayr took me through his stock blank warehouse and helped me pick out the stock blank for my rifle.

I've used the above bullets to kill elk (one with the 160 gr. Nosler Part.), Mule and whitetail deer, antelope, Black bear, and more than a few ground squirrels.

Before I started reloading in 1963, I bought the Remington Factory 150 gr. PSP Corelokts, and they did a fine job on several Mule deer, and a couple of large bobcats.

So far, the only ho hum accuracy has been from Remington Factory 165 gr. round nose soft points.

.280 Remington works for me.

L.W.

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Ol"sargewent to the range today to try my new 280 Rem BDL SS.I tried
57grs IMR 4350 and 57 grs of IMR 4831and 139 gr SST and Nosler BT
what I got was less than in.groups with Imr 4350 zeroed 1 in.high,what I got with
IMR 4831 was 3 in.groups 11 inches lower than the 4350.Question is the 4350 faster than the 4831? I have a speer manuel and they don't list 140 gr bullets.
According to their list for 130 gr bullets they listIMR4350 --3106 and IMR 4831--3108 which is
2 fps faster.
Anyone else tried these 2 powders for comparson?
I want to try RL 22 and H4831 and H 4350 next.
 
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Hi,

I have orderd 160grs Barnes XLC that I will use this year for moose and wild boar.

Have anybody else loaded this bullets in .280Rem?
Results?

The powder I have home is Nomra 204 and MRP, guess the 204 will do best in my 22" barrel.

.280Remington Sweden
 
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Got a chance to go to the range this morning,to try out my new 280,I got it at the end of hunting season,put a scope on it ,reduced the trigger pull to 23/4 lbs.loaded 8 rounds,went to range took 3 to sight in at 100.next 5 were touching,thought that was very good and I was going to have a shooter right out of the box.
Loaded up 3 rounds each of different powder and loads.with BT 140 gr.,BT silvertips,and Hornady sst 139"s.Allready knew what it would do at 100 yds so I shot the 200 yds today.
This is the best groups(3-shot) I got with different powders:
IMR4350-57grs-1.554 with SST's
Imr4831-57grs-3.168 with BT's
R-22-59grs-2.739 with SST's
H4831-59c grs.-0.495. with SST's
The combined technology bullets came in last with all powders.

You think I did get a shooter ???
Next time going to load up several with the H4831 and see what they do at 100 and 300 yds.

Took my ruger in 260 ,with 120 gr bullets BT to see what it would do with them,smallest group I got with it was 0.386

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Sweden 280, I haven't used that 160 gr. Barnes bullet, but I'll surely be interested in reading of the results of it in your rifle, while hunting moose and boars, this fall.

As I said before, I've had magnificent results over the years with the 160 gr. Nosler Partition.

Good hunting!

L.W.
 
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I had a thread on the .280 on the reloading forum -- my best accuracy (by a little margin) and velocity (by a huge margin) were with RL-22, maximum charges under the 139- and 154-gr. Hornady Spire Points. Trying the 150-gr. Partition this weekend.
 
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I just bought a Winchester Model 70 Featherweight with Boss and worked up some loads for it. I was very impressed with the results. Here are the recipes:
LOAD 1
Brass: Winchester
Primer: GM210
Powder: IMR 4350 52 grains
Bullet: Sierra 140 gr. SPBT
Boss setting: 3.6
Group size (5 shot) @ 100yds: 0.367

LOAD 2
Brass: Winchester
Primer: GM210
Powder: Varget 47 grains
Bullet: Sierra 140 gr. SPBT
Boss setting: 3.6
Group Size (5 shot) @ 100yds: 0.137

Granted, this was from a solid bench rest with absolutely no wind or breeze.
I loaded several different loads with each powder in 0.5 grain increments and these were the 2 best. I was truly suprised.
I'm scared to try it at the range again (don't know if I was just lucky that day or what). But I've loaded up some more with that recipe and will try it again to verify. Not sure what the velocity is, but I'm thinking around 2700fps based off of the reloading manual.
Note: The only work I've had done to this rifle was a trigger job to set it at 3.5 lbs.

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As a follow-up to my last post -- my rifle shoots great with the Hornadies and RL-22 but the 150-gr. Partitions averaged about 2". I fiddled with seating depth, switched primers, etc. to no avail.

Will use the 154-gr. Hornady on my pig hunt in April, after that I may try Barnes X or Fail Safe.
 
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What a great thread. Plenty of great info here. I have just put a hold on a Kimber 98 Mauser built on the Czech VZ24 action, Wilson 24" SF barrel, 6 groove 1:9 twist and will be putting a Leupold 3-9x40 VX-1 on it.

I also have a 7mm08 and have an abundance of H4350, Varget, 140gr NBT's and 140gr Woodleigh PP's. I think I will start my load workup with the H4350 and the Woodleigh's as the rifle will mainly be used for hunting hogs and deer. Am hoping to get an accurate 3000fps load sorted.
 
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Guess I'm lucky . My 280 Rem. CS will put 3 SST's (139 gr.) in 3/16" with 57 gr.IMR 4831 and WLRM primers for 2964 fps., no crimp and RP brass, bullet seated to cannular. It can also do one hole groups with RL22 but the velocity comes from 53 gr.( to slow for me) 150 and 160 Partitions will come in around 3/4" to 1". Rifle is bedded and free floated with no trigger work. Sure spanks them deer hard !!

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Took my .280 to the range today. I was shifting toward using my .338 on my pig hunt next week but had trouble zeroing a spare scope and burned up most of my .338 ammo! So now I am back to the .280 with 154-gr. Hornadies. Will probably use the 139s on a pronghorn hunt in August.

I did a little impromptu shooting test using the 139-gr. Hornadies -- cut some NRA military rifle targets to 15-16" wide (simulating chest depth of a pronghorn) and tacked them horizontally to the target backer, then tried for a quick center hit -- just drop into position, safety off, sight picture and squeeze it off.

200 yds. was pretty easy from sitting with no support, very easy resting on top of my spotting scope on its tripod. 300 yds. (with "Kentucky elevation" adjustment a little under the back line) was beyond my abilities from sitting unsupported. Prone, or sitting with a tight sling, not much of a problem and I have all summer to practice.

I found the Leupold Vari-X III 2.5-8 makes a good rangefinder for this -- set on 6x or just above, my paper pronghorn just fills the skinny part of the reticle. That magnification also worked well for my shooting test.

John
 
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Update --

I shot a big wild pig (180-200 lb. range) with the 154-gr. Hornady at about 30 yds. Downhill, quartering away -- bullet held together fairly well and did the job. Also hit with a followup shot (somehow, sure looked like a miss to both me and my guide) and couldn't find that bullet. Neither one exited, I think I'll use something even sturdier (maybe 140 Failsafe or Barnes X) next time.

Looking forward to pork chops,

John
 
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