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I was going through my QuickLoad bullet data and noticed that there is not a Woodleigh .423 400 grain bullets option for the 404 Jeffery. Checked Woodleigh's website and sure enough it's now a .422 caliber bullet. Oops!  The .423 is a 347 grain bullet for the 10.75 x 68mm .423" Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | ||
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Rusty, HMMM, maybe a misprint, have you checked with Geoff? I have been using Woodliegh in 400 gr. 423 for years and the 405 gr. bullet of yesteryear in .423...but might be a new change...I even assisted Geoff with the 450 gr. PP and solid in .423..My primary rifle for African DG was the 404 J. I don't recall any .422 bullets avaliable. If thats the case I doubt it would make much difference?? Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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I agree, give Geoff a msg (through the Woodleigh website)and get it straight from the source. He's really responsive and great to talk too. Russ You'll probably never NEED a gun. In fact I hope you never do. BUT IF you do, you will probably need it worse than anything you've ever needed before in your life... | |||
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The bottom box on the left side of the attached picture is .422. Not sure in what order or when I bought all these 404 Jeffery bullets. Click on the picture to see the dimensions.  Jim | |||
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Well I'll be damned!! Been shooting the 404 for upteen years and don't recall ever shooting a .422 bullet, but perhaps I have, don't recall ever checking as a matter of fact..All my load data is, was, based on .423 bullets..Oh well it wouldn't change anything one way or the other, not in the least, but nice to know anyway.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Surely you aren't using .422" or .423" diameter projectiles in a 450-400 3" or 3.25"? | |||
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If your question is truly just about the data provided in QuickLoad, it is very easy to add entries into the QL database so whatever you want shows up in there. I have noticed that the QL data is incorrect or incomplete for many of the listed bullet vendors, and it is also true that the various bullet vendors change what they offer over time too - no worries, just add the entries you like using the little 'calipers on a bullet' icon at the top of the QL frame. If you are really more concerned with what Woodleigh actually sells, or what diameter they truly are, those are different issues. | |||
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Most folks likely know this, but Woodleigh generally make their steel jacketed FMJs .001" smaller than the RN/SN to reduce pressures. The lower left box is FMJ, and does specify .423" as its diameter, so the above doesn't hold 100%. Maybe not steel jacket under the copper? Dave Manson | |||
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Pardon me, in my 404, I shot .423 and shot 410 and 411 in the 450-400s.. Its an age thing, thats why I don't buy green bannas!! I didn't make that mistake in my first post btw... Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Unfortunately Woodleigh catalogue year 2008 is one of two missing from my full set but in 2007 the 404 bullets were listed as .423" and in 2009 .422" so by deduction the change was made in 2008. Maybe in that catalogue Geoff gave a reason for the change. The change to .422" was across the board for all weights and style i.e. 350gr, 400gr, 450gr solids and softs. The 347gr solid and soft nose bullets for the 10.75x68 have remained at .423". Hope this info is helpful. | |||
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In my older catalog not dated, all the 404s are 423, not mention of .422...and I suspect most if not all were purchased at that time from that catalog... Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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