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17 January 2011, 19:47
Big Bore Fan
.46 WCF
Does anyone have informations about this experimental Winchester round?
I read something befor a few month in the www or a book. Confused
But I canĀ“t find it any more. Frowner

Martin


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(formerly Quattro77)


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15 February 2011, 02:23
Bigbird34
I have a 46 cal rimfire ....but I have never seen or heard of a 46 cal center fire,But that does not mean it wasn't made....try David Call at ammo-one.com ,if anyone has heard of it ,it would be David....Good Luck,Jim
26 June 2019, 20:18
shorty
You can have a look here:
46 WCF
Regards
Daan
www.cartridgecollector.net
26 June 2019, 22:20
ZW
Yes there is such a thing as a 46 Winchester center fire. They are quite rare and a single example will cost you in the thousands of $.
Zac
27 June 2019, 07:50
NormanConquest
Thanks, Shorty, that was very interesting.


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27 June 2019, 07:51
LHeym500
The 46 WCF was the inspiration for the 470 Turnbull.
26 August 2019, 18:59
Bill/Oregon
Wow! Cool!


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29 August 2019, 07:15
RIP
quote:
Originally posted by shorty:
You can have a look here:
46 WCF
Regards
Daan
www.cartridgecollector.net

Thanks for that link, shorty.



Hoyem Volume Four pg. 87 has more about the .46 WCF of 1912.
There was a 2.3"-cased version and a final version with case length of 2.406".
Bullet diameter was .458-caliber, listed in the dimensions tabulation by Hoyem on page 233.

Page 73 of same book shows the ".46 O. F. Winchester" of Jan. 1, 1867 patent date, an early attempt at a unique sort of centerfire.
It had a rimmed case, 1.44" case length, and stubby .468-caliber bullet looking like an enlarged .22-rimfire bullet.
Hoyem makes reference to a 1952 GUN DIGEST article by Paul Foster: "Winchester's Forgotten Cartridges."

One of the U.S. experimental rimfires of Civil War era (1864-1865) had a .460-caliber, 500-grain bullet, and 1.675" case length. 2.804" COL.
A LongCOL load, a heavy bullet for a rimfire load.
That is on page 164 of Hoyem, Volume One.



The real whopper by Winchester had a .458/500-grain bullet in 1884, pushed by 200 grains of BP, from a 3.15" long bottle-necked case with very short neck.
Hoyem Voume Two page 58:



I like to think of all of these as the American forerunners of the .458 WINCHESTER MAGNUM, perfection, finally.
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02 September 2019, 03:07
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Further "excerpts for book review purposes" of:

THE HISTORY AND DEVELOPMENT OF SMALL ARMS AMMUNITION VOLUME FOUR by George A. Hoyem

Book review: Another great book BY GEORGE!




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